EPTObviously different people have different experiences, just looking to see some actual numbers.
How many points did you lose going to Diamond?
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Polatrite
United States135 Posts
Obviously different people have different experiences, just looking to see some actual numbers. | ||
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Altar
United States577 Posts
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TERRANLOL
United States626 Posts
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vdek
United States267 Posts
On October 23 2010 10:55 TERRANLOL wrote: You are placed against people based on your ELO rating. This rating is indirectly represented by your number of points. Your league placement is also based on your ELO rating. People lose points when they get to diamond because they're nervous. The players you're playing against are the exact same pool of players you were playing the match before you were promoted to diamond. This was specifically mentioned at Blizzcon as well. Jumping in leagues doesn't change the players you play, it's not staggered. | ||
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
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Daria
Australia500 Posts
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Darkstar_X
United States197 Posts
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cXm0d
United States93 Posts
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
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Bidj
France98 Posts
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wooozy
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tangwhat
New Zealand446 Posts
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aznhockeyboy16
United States558 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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Sadform
United Kingdom79 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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esla_sol
United States756 Posts
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Peekaboo
Canada219 Posts
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Yotta
United States270 Posts
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Okiesmokie
Canada379 Posts
On October 23 2010 11:36 aznhockeyboy16 wrote: 800 bronze --> 0 diamond That's weird, because 0 diamond gets about 400 points as bronze if demoted. | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
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zJayy962
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warcralft
Singapore609 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Oussal
United States3 Posts
Anyway - I think the more bonus pool you have the lower # of points you'll get when initially transferred into diamond (this is solely based on my own experience =p ) | ||
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Philip2110
Scotland798 Posts
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Sanasante
United States321 Posts
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nihoh
Australia978 Posts
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lolwhat
Sweden58 Posts
Yeah I have been plat for a while :S | ||
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EZjijy
United States1039 Posts
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chaokel
Australia535 Posts
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jstar
Canada568 Posts
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torm
Canada274 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On October 23 2010 11:32 cXm0d wrote: Just a slightly off topic question, would only keeping about a +15 w/l in plat keep me from ever getting into Diamond? No, there're lots of people who only have +5 w/l and still in diamond. | ||
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cmh
United States88 Posts
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Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
up to 1200 diamond again. | ||
Kinky
United States4126 Posts
I think it has to do with what the system thinks your actual level is (your hidden rating). | ||
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Lobber
Canada414 Posts
My 2v2 random is at gold with 10-1... facing a lot of dia though so doesn't really matter your league... | ||
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haegN
Norway533 Posts
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Shika
Sweden1711 Posts
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Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
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Nazarid
United States445 Posts
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Woah
Portugal50 Posts
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/469754/1/Woah/Wonder how much points I will lose when I get promoted as well, hopefully not many! | ||
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ZappaSC
Denmark215 Posts
But one of my friends only lost like 50 points. So he went from 1000 plat -> 950 diamond... lucky bastard. | ||
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eksert
France656 Posts
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ComusLoM
Norway3547 Posts
On October 23 2010 11:18 OminouS wrote: I got to keep a 3rd~ of my points, 800 platinum, 240 diamond or something like that. This for me. | ||
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Ludwigvan
Germany2371 Posts
On October 23 2010 11:36 aznhockeyboy16 wrote: 800 bronze --> 0 diamond oO haha well done mr smurfy. | ||
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rozina
Slovenia72 Posts
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
On October 23 2010 10:55 TERRANLOL wrote: You are placed against people based on your ELO rating. This rating is indirectly represented by your number of points. Your league placement is also based on your ELO rating. People lose points when they get to diamond because they're nervous. The players you're playing against are the exact same pool of players you were playing the match before you were promoted to diamond. I think you've misunderstood him. If a 1500 point plat player (we're just talking visible points here!) player gets promoted to diamond after a win, he'll only have upwards of 1000 (at best) points in his new diamond division. The part about not meeting more difficult opposition is correct, though. | ||
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Chi
Norway27 Posts
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ltortoise
633 Posts
500 plat -> 400 diamond (promoted on my 25th game) | ||
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
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Ation
Finland102 Posts
The point drop was massive like 1400 --> 400. (I remember it being about minus ~1000 points which was a sick surprise). I think this was because I was "illegally bad" player when I started SC2, but I'm a gamer for life so I was learning by doing until I pretty much started stomping the level where I used to play at. This was resulting in a low amount of starting points for Diamond... :o | ||
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
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Woah
Portugal50 Posts
So, you can imagine my surprise when my points went from 1400 plat to 788 diamond, with 506 bonus pool left...good luck getting to 2000 (where aparently I should be judging from the ppl I match vs) let alone more than that, no comments T__T | ||
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
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SCHOU
Denmark8 Posts
On October 23 2010 20:51 d1v wrote: Is there a place where I can find that out? Also, sry for OT, but there was this site where you could see all the statistics of your account and of any other player. Could someone provide me the link? Yup sc2ranks.com.. There you can search for players, including yourself, and check win percentages etc etc  | ||
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
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Fizbin
Canada202 Posts
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Woah
Portugal50 Posts
On October 23 2010 20:54 EmilA wrote: Ha I feel for you man. But you should cheer up! I think we've agreed upon that your MMR doesn't get altered when you get promoted, so if you stay at the level you're at now, you'll eventually end up at a level corresponding to who you're facing. True, guess I'll have to play more tho I'm so lazy!  | ||
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Kagormund
Canada27 Posts
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PJFrylar
United States350 Posts
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oHInsane
France727 Posts
On October 24 2010 00:15 Kagormund wrote: When I was promoted I was plat 250. I dropped straight to 0 diamond. same thing for me. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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kemsley
United Arab Emirates137 Posts
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
287 plat -> 287 Diamond. I went 5-0 in my placement matches, so maybe that made a difference? Honestly I was surprised I wasn't placed in Diamond right away. But I really have no clue how that all works. | ||
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PJFrylar
United States350 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:15 Dromar wrote: I didn't lose any points, but I got promoted early. Something like 287 plat -> 287 Diamond. I went 5-0 in my placement matches, so maybe that made a difference? Honestly I was surprised I wasn't placed in Diamond right away. But I really have no clue how that all works. You can't get placed in diamond straight away from placement matches. I'm a bit surprised you didn't lose any points when promoted. What was your record like post placement matches before you were promoted? | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:40 FireBearHero wrote: You can't get placed in diamond straight away from placement matches. I'm a bit surprised you didn't lose any points when promoted. What was your record like post placement matches before you were promoted? Pretty bad. After the placement matches I went 10-9 for a record of 15-9. Oddly enough I performed better once I got into diamond. | ||
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zokj
Canada136 Posts
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Verb
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PJFrylar
United States350 Posts
On October 24 2010 03:43 Dromar wrote: Pretty bad. After the placement matches I went 10-9 for a record of 15-9. Oddly enough I performed better once I got into diamond. Weird, I wonder why I lost some points and you didn't. Things went/are going roughly the same for me. Around the same point total when promoted with about the same ratio. What kind of players are you getting matched up against? I sort of think it has to do with remaining bonus pool and where you're expected to end up. If you're getting matched against slightly higher opponents it would make sense. Edit: Just averaged the rating of my last 10 opponents and came up with about 1450. If my little theory is right yours should come out just a bit higher. | ||
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lofi01
Australia52 Posts
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Scoop
Finland482 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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Polatrite
United States135 Posts
1840 plat -> 1710 diamond Woo! | ||
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
On November 24 2010 10:50 Polatrite wrote: Just to add my own input (since I started this silly thread) I finally broke diamond after floating in the top of platinum for ages (nearly 2 months? Top 10 the entire time?) 1840 plat -> 1710 diamond Woo! Gosh I hope this is what's in store for me. I went from 1300 diamonds to about 1500 plat, then ranked up to 1800+ very easily. Been in the top 100 platinum in world since. I need to play a lot more so I can get my promotion back, darn it. | ||
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johnlee
United States242 Posts
I got demoted to platinum.... T_T | ||
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dLKnighT
Canada735 Posts
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garry__
Canada7 Posts
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Boundless
Canada588 Posts
I think this is because the stupid ranking system had me stuck in platinum for ages. I think I was 100-47 when it moved me up, and I was beating 1700+ diamond players non-stop for the last ~15 wins of that record. If you do well against equally rated diamond players, it keeps your ranking close to that rating. | ||
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Abstinence
United States328 Posts
Never even got to play a plat player while I was in plat. ): | ||
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Denis Lachance
Canada162 Posts
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sqrt
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On November 24 2010 11:39 johnlee wrote: I'm so sad. I got demoted to platinum.... T_T So did I, but overall - a good choice by the system. When you don't belong in D league, you don't get to be a D league. Diamonds, I'm coming for ya'. | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
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Oleksandr
United States227 Posts
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greentft
Costa Rica37 Posts
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TheDoK666
France179 Posts
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junemermaid
United States981 Posts
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
so basically the only difference is the points which shouldn't matter because if you play enough, you will eventually get so high point wise that you won't even worry about it anymore | ||
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Yurie
11868 Posts
Doesn't it depend on which diamond division you enter? If you enter a good one you lose a lot, if you enter a mediocre one from a high platinum you lose little. | ||
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Msrobinson
United States138 Posts
Granted, I was in platinum for about 1 month cranking out wins, but w.e | ||
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Malza
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arterian
Canada1157 Posts
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Cha1R
United States221 Posts
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Dissonance23
United States259 Posts
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
On October 23 2010 11:47 Yotta wrote: 1300 plat -> 1200 diamond something like this, I then proceeded to drop 200 points. This was a few months ago, I'm same level now but +~600 bonus points | ||
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