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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
October 16 2010 07:44 GMT
#121
While I doubt Blizzard can do anything against hackers in Peru (in Canada maybe), this step will certainly up the ante on hackers. It's one thing to do something that's "not ok but probably noone cares", like downloading music or warez, but it's a different thing if you can actually get sued for it.

Most people don't have any understanding of law and many are scared out of their mind as soon as they see a § sign. Many shady companies abuse this to send intimidating lawyer letters to people to get them to pay a sum to avoid a lawsuit, although they actually don't have any legal substance. Spreading the news that hacking means being sued is a great deterrent against hacking.
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
October 16 2010 07:46 GMT
#122
On October 16 2010 14:13 hordeau wrote:
This is amazing. Finally a company taking some serious action against cheaters instead of everyone else just banning the CD Key and allowing the player to just buy another copy of the game.


I'm actually happy when they perma ban keys.
Its annoying as hell when they temp ban them for a week.

The sky just is, and goes on and on; and we play all our BW games beneath it.
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
October 16 2010 07:47 GMT
#123
On October 16 2010 14:44 domane wrote:
Do hack developers make money off their abominations? I assumed until now that hacks were free.

There is some hackers that sell their hack to distributors, some sell themselves, and others as some story I've heard recently about someone stole a hack from his hacker friend and sold it, some starcraft 2 hack that is.
Yes I am
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
October 16 2010 07:48 GMT
#124
On October 16 2010 16:33 ZerglingSoup wrote:
Wait, those ridiculously long EULAs that NOBODY reads before just hitting "accept" are legally binding? I find that hard to believe.

They are actually : ) even if it's hard to belive !
Yes I am
brafix
Profile Joined August 2010
United States37 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 07:58:23
October 16 2010 07:54 GMT
#125
you guys seriously overestimate the mental effect suing people has. Look at how much RIAA and MPAA lawsuits have deterred music and movie piracy..... :/ And remember, these were multi MILLION dollar suits.

This will be a non issue soon enough and its back to business as usual for all parties involved.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 08:01:25
October 16 2010 08:00 GMT
#126
For once koticks sick attitude towards making money is paying off in terms of making the commmunity and game experience better. Who the f*** would have thought :D

Or Blizzard is just really invested into this and is making sure bnet 2.0 isnt frowned upon as some sort of haven for people ruining the experience.

Edit: Or I'm talking out of my ass

Or..or..or....whatever the reason this is freaking good news. go blizz!
Do you really want chat rooms?
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
October 16 2010 08:01 GMT
#127
Damn Justice Hammer just did a 9000 damage on the hackers.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
October 16 2010 08:03 GMT
#128
This is awesome! I wish they would have done this with the guy who made hacks for wc3, I forget his name but I saw a interview with him about why he made hacks and such. They would be able to get him easily.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
October 16 2010 08:05 GMT
#129
On October 16 2010 16:54 brafix wrote:
you guys seriously overestimate the mental effect suing people has. Look at how much RIAA and MPAA lawsuits have deterred music and movie piracy..... :/ And remember, these were multi MILLION dollar suits.

This will be a non issue soon enough and its back to business as usual for all parties involved.

That's cuz everyone downloads shit making it extremely unlikely that you'll ever get sued... not everyone writes hacks.
Lighioana
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway466 Posts
October 16 2010 08:06 GMT
#130
Go Blizz!
And forgive me nothing for I truly meant it all
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
October 16 2010 08:12 GMT
#131
Looks like Blizzard is taking sc2 seriously as they should and not let it have the same fate as wc3.
Great news but somehow this looks like the tip of the iceberg. I'm expecting a lot more of these kind of actions in the near future and i really hope hackers will at least learn to keep the hacks to themselves so they don't ruin the game. Overall nice work Blizzard!
SaroDarksbane
Profile Joined October 2010
United States55 Posts
October 16 2010 08:16 GMT
#132
On October 16 2010 13:50 Damnesiac wrote:
REALLY REALLY hate the direction intellectual property and copyright law is headed in the US.

As much as I hate hackers and would like to see some misery come to them, I pretty much agree with this. It's great to want a level playing field for Starcraft, but I'd rather not set precedents that will go on to cause havoc in the rest of society in order to do so.

The Glider ruling was particularly bad.

On October 16 2010 14:13 andrewlt wrote:
You have no clue how copyright law works.

Or he does, and he just disagrees with it.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
October 16 2010 08:20 GMT
#133
Tremondous news, I hope this deters people from using hacks and I cannot wait for another hacking ban wave to come along
Live and Let Die!
k!llua
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia895 Posts
October 16 2010 08:30 GMT
#134
im sure blizzard will have massive amounts of success prosecuting peruvian citizens in an american court

he's a dick for producing cheats but just thinking that they can somehow charge someone thousands of miles away is a joke. it's like hicks and gillett getting a us court to issue an injunction of a sale in england. disgusting.
my hair is a wookie, your argument is invalid
Dreamscythe
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland273 Posts
October 16 2010 08:34 GMT
#135
Good thing that blizzard is taking quite fast actions vs hackers. Like Wow these days is ruined due to hackers :/
Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Oscar Wilde
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
October 16 2010 08:36 GMT
#136
On October 16 2010 14:50 infringement153 wrote:
First of all, I doubt this lawsuit will be successful...

And even if it is, development of the hacks will just move to another country. Hackers will still exist.

*not that I condone hacking, just stating it the way I think it will turn out*


You should really read this thread. People like you drive me insane. None of the hackers being sued are native to the US. Someone mentioned just a few posts ago that it will come down to deciding if a CA judge has jurisdiction over them.

Please read the thread before saying something this silly.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
blank7
Profile Joined September 2010
20 Posts
October 16 2010 09:33 GMT
#137
While im all rooting for the banhammer on hackers - i really really do hate the base argument of their case:

"When users of the Hacks download, install, and use the Hacks, they copy StarCraft II copyrighted content into their computer's RAM in excess of the scope of their limited license, as set forth in the EULA and ToU, and create derivative works of StarCraft II."


This argument might be used as a precedence not only for starcraft but for all kind of software/games. In combination with blizzards/activisions strict rules of "sanctioned" game-experience enhancement this might become a drop-dead argument on any kind of mod which any company wants to enforce:

Want to sell a build order tester? - Ban all existing testers, cause they infringe on the copyright.
Dont like independant hack-sniffers and want to sell your own?

I might be a little paranoid on that subject - but theres always someone who wants to optimize the gross margin and likes to be creative (especially if the "tools" are available).


okaygo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States83 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 09:42:41
October 16 2010 09:38 GMT
#138
This is disturbing news, this does nothing against stopping hackers, it's just a big corporation simply going after some poor college kids. The fact that there is ANY grounds to sue is ridiculous, people should have rights to protect them from this kind of situation. Some of these guys named are my friends and I hope to god they are going to be safe. Not that I support hacking in SC2, but the way blizzard is handling this is ALL WRONG. They have a very powerful tool, Warden at their disposal and instead of utilizing it, they just try to push people around using money. This won't stop cheaters, there will always be cheaters as long as blizzard doesn't do a good job fixing the holes in their game. As a player, I'm not worried about them either. If someones going to maphack against me, and I find out, I'll report them. Not going to lose sleep over something so stupid as a game. But these guys, now they have to fear for being in debt to a corporation for having a hobby of reverse engineering and programming, combined with a taste in game hacking. These guys aren't hackers, they are coders. As a programmer myself, this is scary.
McFoo
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
October 16 2010 09:53 GMT
#139
Hope they use that money to go towards paying for better security systems etc. on their software so that they don't have to bankrupt other poor fucks doing harmless shit in their spare time.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
October 16 2010 09:56 GMT
#140
LOOOOOOOOL they sued zynastor hahahahhahahaha
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