EPT[D] GSL Stream/Vod Pricing - Will you buy? - Page 11
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TheFinalWord
Australia790 Posts
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Merikh
United States918 Posts
On September 01 2010 23:05 some_noob wrote: http://www.d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com/ Bite me, made this thread at like 6-7ish am after no sleep | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
There is about a 50% chance I pony up the money for a stream anyways. | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On September 02 2010 03:37 VorcePA wrote: Really, really don't care. Like, really extra super don't care. GOMTV was a nice service during the BW GSL 1, 2, and 3. I didn't mind the problems it had, because it was free. Now that there's no free option, I will not support it. Blizzard/GOM have to realize their biggest potential client base is a bunch of broke college students. Everyone else in other income brackets probably account for less than 50% of the total user base. With these prices, though, it doesn't even matter. Wealthier people than myself are already scoffing at the cost. I love the self-entitlement here. So you pretend to be a necessity to Blizzard/GOM yet you admit you're broke? It's one or the other. No one owes you anything. | ||
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Alphaes
United States651 Posts
On September 02 2010 03:32 theqat wrote: A GOM employee's post on these forums claimed that part of the reason they are charging is so that they can afford servers in the US. Hopefully that will eliminate some of the problems we've had with streaming from GOM in the past. I think rather than blindly buying up server bandwidth, they probably would've had a better chance giving shitty streams from Korea for free/at lower prices - building up reliable demand before expanding their operations in such a way. Since almost no one will likely pay for service now, all this'll do is set them further into the red. A shame the GOMtv guy couldn't have come here earlier and been more proactive in receiving community feedback earlier like the ESL and especially the MLG guys have been doing. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
"we know there is a very small community, but were trying to make sure it never grows, because people who are not already fans will never pay to watch!" (and we'll also lock out the current fans..who are for the most part VERY tech/internet savvy, and will eventually give it to everyone for free... but then we wont get their 'viewer count' added to ours, so we can show sponsors we are a worthwhile investment) ...? idk.. i just don't get how this is supposed to be helping e-sports/competitive gaming... I understand profits, and business plans, and all of these things. But you need consumers before you can sell them a product... the fact that it costs so much shows that they are expecting a low turn-out. Also another major issue "so im paying 20$ for the chance to stay up from 3-5am and watch SC2" MMA and NFL and every other sporting event offers the conveniency of being available during convenient times... not the case in this situation. another conveniency issue- for MMA, NFL, Any other sporting event you watch it on your TV and usually have a party or people over. This is on our computer... with our one computer chair. I have a 25 inch monitor, but would not expect friends to come over and stare at my computer monitor, like they would a TV. unfortunately most of us will be asleep during the matches, so you won't be watching "live" either way, another reason why the free pirated streams/replays will be more popular. | ||
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789
United States959 Posts
Edit: If it was 10-15$ a month for a Vod ticket I would consider it. Anything above that = no chance. The daily tickets are something I would consider though. | ||
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mmdmmd
722 Posts
On September 02 2010 03:22 Hot_Bid wrote: We close restreams for every organization that requests it, provided they own the rights to their broadcasts. We did it for IEM, MLG, and we'll do it for GOM if they request it. We allow restreams of BW because we haven't been told by OGN or MBC to take them down. Additionally, the BW streams have a free stream, it's not paid premium. So does that mean TL.NET will not allow any stream/vod of all the major sc2 events from now on?!?! | ||
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CScythe
Canada810 Posts
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mmdmmd
722 Posts
On September 02 2010 04:01 CScythe wrote: The price is ridiculous. I will gladly pay, but the amount they're asking is too much. Why do they need to have such a high price? According to them, so they can afford to buy servers. You know, they don't have enough money at the moment. | ||
Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
On September 02 2010 04:01 mmdmmd wrote: So does that mean TL.NET will not allow any stream/vod of all the major sc2 events from now on?!?! Hasn't that been the case for awhile? A single link to MLG / ESL's stream with all restreams shut down? | ||
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Buddhist
United States658 Posts
On September 01 2010 23:06 theqat wrote: No; it's $2 per day. $20 is for the whole season. I will be buying at least a VOD ticket because I can afford it and I can't resist. However, the whole thing is a shame and to that end I hope you all will bump my thread or JWD's thead at http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/forum/ If we make enough noise on GOM's site, they may reconsider. We're already having an impact on their server  Why would they reconsider if you're going to buy it anyway? Seriously... like... really. People like you :/. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On September 02 2010 04:06 Chill wrote: Hasn't that been the case for awhile? A single link to MLG / ESL's stream with all restreams shut down? Weren't there links to the restreams in the 'official' thread during the IEM? Didn't see any restreams for MLG though. | ||
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NauticalSky
United States14 Posts
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LuciD`
United States81 Posts
On September 02 2010 03:13 mmdmmd wrote: Just imagine what will happen when Blizzard kills off Kespa and takes complete control of the Starcraft scene!! YOU PAY WHAT WE SAY! CAUSE WE HAVE DA POWER!!!! Poll: Will you download a pirate version of the paid stream? Yes! (103) Not Sure. (9) No! (8) 120 total votes Your vote: Will you download a pirate version of the paid stream? Honestly, I'm kind of ashamed of polls like this one. I do happen to think their pricing plan is pretty steep, but this kind of behavior is not really necessary. To me it shows we feel that there's some sort of entitlement to this foreigner coverage. We aren't entitled to any of it. They have decided to use some of their resources to provide us with coverage of this huge event and they pretty clearly can not do it for free if they think they can charge this much for it. The answer is not to throw a hissy fit and say we are going to steal your product because we deserve to see english commentary of this event both live and on VoD for a price we set. If I were the one making business decisions I would just feel disrespected by the audience and feel no reason to even offer it in the future. Who knows, maybe anything less and they will be operating at a loss? We have no idea what the circumstances are. If that's the case if they lower prices, operate at a loss, they may get some more subscriptions but maybe they feel their product is still going to be stolen now. Seriously, the best way to go about this is to voice your opinion in a respectful manner as a mass and if the two parties can't come to a mutal agreement just simply don't purchase their plan. Don't try and act like the pirating community and say well we're just going to stick it to you by stealing and brag about it. It's childish, selfish and it is indeed counter productive to the advancement of our cause. | ||
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mmdmmd
722 Posts
On September 02 2010 04:06 Chill wrote: Hasn't that been the case for awhile? A single link to MLG / ESL's stream with all restreams shut down? This is sad news man, I first came TL because of the VODs. Then I came because of the streams. Sad sad sad... | ||
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Buddhist
United States658 Posts
Why would I not pirate it? I can't afford it / won't buy it anyway, so they aren't losing anything. | ||
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andeh
United States904 Posts
On September 02 2010 04:01 mmdmmd wrote: So does that mean TL.NET will not allow any stream/vod of all the major sc2 events from now on?!?! Thing is though, one could still stream gsl on ustream/livestream but just cant link it on tl It's more of a pain for gom to go to livestream and ask for a stream to be taken down than coming on tl and doing the same thing | ||
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LuciD`
United States81 Posts
On September 02 2010 04:13 Buddhist wrote: Lucid, you're talking about disrespect or throwing a fit, but that's completely unreasonable. I don't throw a fit when I pirate things. I just pirate them. I don't feel like pirating is a slap to someone's face. I don't feel "entitled". It's just a tool which I use to my benefit. Why would I not pirate it? I can't afford it / won't buy it anyway, so they aren't losing anything. I may not be talking about you particularly. I'm talking about that poll and people who feel the need to tell everyone they're going to pirate it. Proclaiming it at the top of your lungs isn't going to help. They'll feel it on their bottom line without saying a word about it. Having a circle jerk about how we're all going to steal it is really childish and I feel the community shouldn't conduct itself in that manner. Especially one that holds manners as a great importance. | ||
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ekaj
United States174 Posts
On September 02 2010 04:13 mmdmmd wrote: This is sad news man, I first came TL because of the VODs. Then I came because of the streams. Sad sad sad... i feel like you're missing something... | ||
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