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On August 17 2010 07:08 QuakerOats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 07:05 rS.Sinatra wrote:On August 17 2010 07:02 QuakerOats wrote:On August 17 2010 07:00 rS.Sinatra wrote:On August 17 2010 06:52 shrinkmaster wrote:On August 17 2010 06:49 rS.Sinatra wrote:
Honestly what would you rather have... two players playing playing a tennis match with one team being a little baby and shouting profanity while the other player tries his best to act with class or a caster who talks alot of shit but doesn't affect the game play of the two that are actually playing the game... unless you listen to the cast and hear the shit talking from the caster and get pissed off.. but in that case there is more serious shit to worry about than BMing in general. Yeah that's why they NEVER showed a tennis match of John McEnroe on TV and the commentators are famous millionairs. Notice how if you wikipedia the man, "bad manners" wasn't one of the major highlights of his career? XD " He is best remembered for his shot-making artistry and superb volleying; for his famous rivalries with Björn Borg, Jimmy Connors and Ivan Lendl; for his confrontational on-court behavior which frequently landed him in trouble with umpires and tennis authorities; and for the catchphrase "You can not be serious!" directed toward an umpire during a match at Wimbledon in 1981." I'm sorry... I wasn't aware that one sentence out of such a long article served as a "MAIN HIGHLIGHT" lewl You're really going to continue this? That "one sentence" is the article's fucking summary, the very purpose of which is to give you the main highlight. McEnroe is legendary for his tremendous results and for his temper in the same exact way that Idra is.
Maybe you should read the entire article... either way... if you like garbage, keep watching it, it doesn't affect me what you watch... lolol... maybe you were missing the point at what i was getting at anyways... nobody deserves to be treated the way idra treats people... if you like watching that then go watch some WWE or something... they have alot of garbage that satisfies your tastes.
Here's something in the article which I find fitting though... and should also be applied to idra...
"Controversy was never far from McEnroe, however; in his fourth round match against Mikael Pernfors at the 1990 Australian Open, McEnroe was ejected from the tournament[4] for swearing at the umpire, supervisor, and referee. He was warned by the umpire for intimidating a lineswoman, and then docked a point for smashing a racket. McEnroe was apparently unaware that a new Code of Conduct, which had been introduced just before the tournament, meant that a third code violation would not lead to the deduction of a game but instead would result in immediate disqualification; therefore, when McEnroe unleashed a volley of abuse at umpire Gerry Armstrong, he was defaulted. He was fined $65,000 for the incidents."
Yeah.... I really hope this happens to Idra... take away his sponsorship please.
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On August 17 2010 07:05 rS.Sinatra wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 07:02 QuakerOats wrote:On August 17 2010 07:00 rS.Sinatra wrote:On August 17 2010 06:52 shrinkmaster wrote:On August 17 2010 06:49 rS.Sinatra wrote:
Honestly what would you rather have... two players playing playing a tennis match with one team being a little baby and shouting profanity while the other player tries his best to act with class or a caster who talks alot of shit but doesn't affect the game play of the two that are actually playing the game... unless you listen to the cast and hear the shit talking from the caster and get pissed off.. but in that case there is more serious shit to worry about than BMing in general. Yeah that's why they NEVER showed a tennis match of John McEnroe on TV and the commentators are famous millionairs. Notice how if you wikipedia the man, "bad manners" wasn't one of the major highlights of his career? XD " He is best remembered for his shot-making artistry and superb volleying; for his famous rivalries with Björn Borg, Jimmy Connors and Ivan Lendl; for his confrontational on-court behavior which frequently landed him in trouble with umpires and tennis authorities; and for the catchphrase "You can not be serious!" directed toward an umpire during a match at Wimbledon in 1981." I'm sorry... I wasn't aware that one sentence out of such a long article served as a "MAIN HIGHLIGHT" lewl
Well, if you watch highlights of his career, his antics on the court are pretty much always brought up. Nowadays when he plays show-matches, he fakes getting angry to entertain the crowd, using the "You can not be serious!" catchphrase, throwing rackets and such things. There were also A LOT written about it when he played. So yes... it was a "main highlight" of his career...
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Why exactly is BigT the caster for ESL in the first place? Why not a good caster that doesn't trash-talk players and other commentators?
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so in like 2 week, BigT has gotten more problems than all other casters. Sucks for BigT fans, but just not allowing bigT to cast anymore fix most of the future/current problem?
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just get BIGGERT to cast, problem solved.
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On August 17 2010 07:14 Malgrif wrote:
just get BIGGERT to cast, problem solved.
BiggerT has nothing to cast if BigT isn't on.
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On August 17 2010 07:15 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 07:14 Malgrif wrote:
just get BIGGERT to cast, problem solved. BiggerT has nothing to cast if BigT isn't on.
BiggerT should continue to exist after BigT doesn't.. it will be a constant beacon/reminder that shit aint tolerated.
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On August 17 2010 07:02 Fruscainte wrote:
If what I'm hearing is true, I think it's bullshit that the ESL is looking over BigT's constant BM and apparent cheating.
Read Chill's response above.
National ESL is reviewing all of the people we let broadcast. We are still figuring our broadcast partner for the American Championship event this October.
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On August 17 2010 07:14 Malgrif wrote:
just get BIGGERT to cast, problem solved.
It's a parasitic relationship. BiggerT can't live without BigT.
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On August 17 2010 07:08 midway wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 07:01 KingRajesh wrote:
Midway is picking and choosing what he responds to, he obviously won't touch the REAL issue here that you've brought up.
It's already been discussed. What more do you want me to say? Let me repeat. We made some mistakes, we admit to it. We have done our best to fix it while at the same time punishing people who deserved it.
I'm guessing some people want to hear how specific people at ESL were disciplined for their actions that contributed to the event, similarly to how Idra's actions were spelled out in detail.
I'm hoping that the majority of the community understands that you, or anyone else at ESL, can neither come out and say specifics regarding to what happens internally with ESL nor should feel obligated to broadcast that information.
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On August 17 2010 07:17 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 07:14 Malgrif wrote:
just get BIGGERT to cast, problem solved. It's a parasitic relationship. BiggerT can't live without BigT.
Parasites often feed off the corpses of their hosts after they die... might live for a while longer 
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On August 17 2010 07:17 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 07:14 Malgrif wrote:
just get BIGGERT to cast, problem solved. It's a parasitic relationship. BiggerT can't live without BigT.
Is there any chance of a BiggerT stream tonight?
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Is it so much to ask to just fire BigT?
You gotta meet the players and viewers somewhere.
If you ban Idra, you need to fire BigT.
It's easy.
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On August 17 2010 06:54 midway wrote:
IdrA should want them casted because it makes him more popular.
Oh how nice of you!
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On August 17 2010 07:08 midway wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 07:01 KingRajesh wrote:
Midway is picking and choosing what he responds to, he obviously won't touch the REAL issue here that you've brought up.
It's already been discussed. What more do you want me to say? Let me repeat. We made some mistakes, we admit to it. We have done our best to fix it while at the same time punishing people who deserved it.
yeah you apologized but at the same time you refused to talk about ALL the stuff that happened.
also it doesn't help if you apologize and some post later you act all arrogant
i guess you will not change this behaviour since this sems to be the version you gonna stick to.
so it is kind of pointless to request further clarification
nah fuck it, at least the people will see another looong thread of esl just not looking good.
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On August 17 2010 04:56 Fadetowhite wrote:
baller
On August 17 2010 04:56 Fadetowhite wrote:
BM'ing
Does not compute.
I don't know what happened, and honestly I don't care. Who cares? I trust the ESL admins to make the best decisions for the tournament, after all it's in their best interest. And also that BigT guy should be banned from casting anything bigger than 20$ for he is a terrible caster, and an unpleasant person in general.
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On August 17 2010 07:14 Malgrif wrote:
just get BIGGERT to cast, problem solved.
the bigger t act was hilarious :D
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On August 17 2010 07:20 haka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 06:54 midway wrote:
IdrA should want them casted because it makes him more popular. Oh how nice of you!
I Agree! Who knows, if idra plays enough games that get casted maybe people will take notice? Maybe he might even join a pro team and perhaps live his dream and move to korea to play as a starcraft pro for a living.
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Well I wasn't happy with what happened last night. But as everything developed though, this just seems to be a case of error of one or two admins and the error has mostly been amended by further review by other esl officials. For all the miscommunication and complicating matters surrounding the situation, this is a pretty good outcome.
Would people like esl to own up to any mistakes? Probably yes but I can see why they may not want to. I think we can at least take comfort in the fact that this will be a learning experience for everyone involved.
Side note: I agree on casting replays instead of live games in the future. It is so much better for the players and really no different for the audience.
(btw <3 midway, I appreciate everything you have done for esports. Your work with gotfrag and CS is what got me into esports before I ever heard of professional starcraft)
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On August 17 2010 07:20 LawGQ wrote:
Is it so much to ask to just fire BigT?
You gotta meet the players and viewers somewhere.
If you ban Idra, you need to fire BigT.
It's easy.
Considering IdrA wasn't banned that's not really an issue then is it?
As for BigT's status, he doesn't work for us. We allowed him to cast.
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