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what happened to David Kim and CowGoMoo?

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mrkent
Profile Joined January 2010
United States160 Posts
July 21 2010 19:00 GMT
#1
Anyone seen them on ladder recently? I wonder if they can still compete with top level diamond players these days. Ever since ~1month into beta, all interest in them disappeared.
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
July 21 2010 19:01 GMT
#2
Im sure thier still decent but they wont be winning any tournies anytime soon
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
July 21 2010 19:02 GMT
#3
What about KingHillBilly or whatever his name is. The second warp gates were nerfed he vanished
Roniii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States289 Posts
July 21 2010 19:02 GMT
#4
I heard about Davey (D.Kim) being fairly high rated rank 1 diamond. other than that small bit of passed down information, I have heard nothing about either.
you think as i do
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 19:05:06
July 21 2010 19:03 GMT
#5
i'm not 100% sure if it was the real one but during the 2nd phase of beta, someone was playing under the name Dayvie as random and he was doing pretty good so it was probably really him, no idea about CowGoMoo.

On July 22 2010 04:02 floor exercise wrote:
What about KingHillBilly or whatever his name is. The second warp gates were nerfed he vanished

he went back to WC2 :O some screens were posted a while ago of him saying he was back to WC2 that he didn't like SC2 anymore -.-
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Jon The Baptist
Profile Joined March 2010
Ireland24 Posts
July 21 2010 19:05 GMT
#6
I heard after one month of Beta they where told to stop playing and only play inhouse, so you may not hear from them untill retail ships.
NormandyBoy
Profile Joined May 2010
France200 Posts
July 21 2010 19:06 GMT
#7
Blizzard said they had a lot of people playing on ladder. I guess they made new accounts after being "discovered"...
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
July 21 2010 19:09 GMT
#8
I played Dayvie a couple times on the ladder a few days ago. When I asked him if he was David Kim the internal tester he said he wasn't. He was really strong though, and a random user, so I think he was lying.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 19:18:26
July 21 2010 19:18 GMT
#9
They were told to change names and were no longer allowed to participate in showmatches /tournaments (due to possible conflict of interest)
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YourMom
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania565 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 19:21:47
July 21 2010 19:21 GMT
#10
I'm fairly sure I saw David Kim being something like top 50 in the NA servers on that ladder rankings site.
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TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 19:23:27
July 21 2010 19:22 GMT
#11
david kim was in my division. he was around 650 or something, played random
and in the thread with the US ladder places on it you could see him in the top 25 or so

i managed to sneak a battle craft win off him once but lost in a horrid fashion in a 1v1 while he was laddering up
Dwell
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
July 21 2010 19:26 GMT
#12
On July 22 2010 04:09 lu_cid wrote:
I played Dayvie a couple times on the ladder a few days ago. When I asked him if he was David Kim the internal tester he said he wasn't. He was really strong though, and a random user, so I think he was lying.

Seems weird to deny being the real David Kim (Dayvie) but still play under that name.
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
July 21 2010 19:32 GMT
#13
On July 22 2010 04:26 Piski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 04:09 lu_cid wrote:
I played Dayvie a couple times on the ladder a few days ago. When I asked him if he was David Kim the internal tester he said he wasn't. He was really strong though, and a random user, so I think he was lying.

Seems weird to deny being the real David Kim (Dayvie) but still play under that name.


Yeah that's what I thought too. It's not like David Kim is a super famous badass, why would someone use his name?
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
July 21 2010 19:35 GMT
#14
On July 22 2010 04:32 lu_cid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 04:26 Piski wrote:
On July 22 2010 04:09 lu_cid wrote:
I played Dayvie a couple times on the ladder a few days ago. When I asked him if he was David Kim the internal tester he said he wasn't. He was really strong though, and a random user, so I think he was lying.

Seems weird to deny being the real David Kim (Dayvie) but still play under that name.


Yeah that's what I thought too. It's not like David Kim is a super famous badass, why would someone use his name?


You would be surprised what people have done, are doing and are willing to do for a little fame.
Or maybe someone just has the same nickname as he, could happen.
Oceaniax
Profile Joined June 2010
146 Posts
July 21 2010 19:47 GMT
#15
I'd easily believe the people stating that they were told to keep their identities low-profile. Can you imagine the blowback if someone like DavidKim was playing in a tourney or showmatch and lost to something, and then a week or two later a (coincidental) patch came out nerfing that certain "something"?

It's best to provide the perception of neutrality.
Oceaniax
Profile Joined June 2010
146 Posts
July 21 2010 19:50 GMT
#16
On July 22 2010 04:26 Piski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 04:09 lu_cid wrote:
I played Dayvie a couple times on the ladder a few days ago. When I asked him if he was David Kim the internal tester he said he wasn't. He was really strong though, and a random user, so I think he was lying.

Seems weird to deny being the real David Kim (Dayvie) but still play under that name.


Well also that name isn't exactly super special and unique. I'm sure even without David Kim using it there would be several people with that psuedonymn on battlenet, purely through coincedence.
Skee
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 19:51:46
July 21 2010 19:51 GMT
#17
On July 22 2010 04:09 lu_cid wrote:
I played Dayvie a couple times on the ladder a few days ago. When I asked him if he was David Kim the internal tester he said he wasn't. He was really strong though, and a random user, so I think he was lying.

That guy played Pain User on his stream and he did a 1 base all in for like 12 minutes until he finally just gg and left.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 19:54:00
July 21 2010 19:52 GMT
#18
I played david kim a few times last week. Or at least I think it was david kim, definitely played well, and was random... -shrug-. 400-600 ish diamond? I can't remember.
Origine
Profile Joined January 2010
France167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 19:57:04
July 21 2010 19:56 GMT
#19
and what about KMR or KLM or whatever it is, any news from him? u remember that guy who mothership rushed artosis on steppes? can't forget that game :D
https://twitter.com/thomAufresne
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
July 21 2010 20:07 GMT
#20
On July 22 2010 04:02 floor exercise wrote:
What about KingHillBilly or whatever his name is. The second warp gates were nerfed he vanished


KHB went back to warcraft 2
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BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
July 21 2010 20:20 GMT
#21
the account most people are thinking of is a random player called Dayvie. He was in my diamond division, Shuttle Foxtrot, and was #1 in the division.

You can see here, and here that he ended the beta with 54-30 record, 704 points, top 20 on the NA server.

But of course with the current identifier system, noone could know if it was the real David Kim :D
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Elmers_Cow
Profile Joined July 2010
United States28 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 20:30:36
July 21 2010 20:26 GMT
#22
EDIT: Removed this post because I am wroooong.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 20:27:36
July 21 2010 20:26 GMT
#23
On July 22 2010 05:26 Elmers_Cow wrote:
CowGoMoo (perfectionistemblem) quit sc2 after a couple patches because he didn't feel it had any potential becoming a true esport or something.

CowGoMoo is not Perfectionistemblem. That was Oversky...

CowGoMoo is CowGoMoo on TL, Oversky/Perfectionistemblem is InReach on TL.
Elmers_Cow
Profile Joined July 2010
United States28 Posts
July 21 2010 20:28 GMT
#24
On July 22 2010 05:26 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 05:26 Elmers_Cow wrote:
CowGoMoo (perfectionistemblem) quit sc2 after a couple patches because he didn't feel it had any potential becoming a true esport or something.

CowGoMoo is not Perfectionistemblem. That was Oversky...

CowGoMoo is CowGoMoo on TL, Oversky/Perfectionistemblem is InReach on TL.

whoooops got totally confused. Thanks for the correction
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
July 21 2010 20:31 GMT
#25
On July 22 2010 05:28 Elmers_Cow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 05:26 Jyvblamo wrote:
On July 22 2010 05:26 Elmers_Cow wrote:
CowGoMoo (perfectionistemblem) quit sc2 after a couple patches because he didn't feel it had any potential becoming a true esport or something.

CowGoMoo is not Perfectionistemblem. That was Oversky...

CowGoMoo is CowGoMoo on TL, Oversky/Perfectionistemblem is InReach on TL.

whoooops got totally confused. Thanks for the correction

you also got his message wrong.
On April 24 2010 12:40 inReacH wrote:
Sorry guys, I won't be playing SC2 anymore, part of the reason I was #1 zerg was because I played 12-14 hours a day and I just don't like the game enough to spend my whole life doing it.
(And I'm certainly not going to play casually)

I'm absolutely in love with mapping right now and am going to be putting in 100 hours a week indefinitely. Pretty much all I do is workout everyday, play tennis 3-4 times/week and work in Galaxy.

I have a few micro maps planned out that I'm going to crank out after TMA before moving onto more ambitious projects so I'll definitely be around.

Thanks for the support.

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MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
July 21 2010 20:32 GMT
#26
they weren't lucky enough to get a beta key /;p
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
link0
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 00:34:41
July 22 2010 00:33 GMT
#27
David Kim was the #1 ranked random player on the NA server when beta went down.

And no, it's not a fake.
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trancey
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 00:45:06
July 22 2010 00:35 GMT
#28
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
July 22 2010 00:38 GMT
#29
o yeah! what also happened to oversky? that zergy who played like 500+ games or something?
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KingHillBilly
Profile Joined November 2007
United States105 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 00:44:59
July 22 2010 00:42 GMT
#30
On July 22 2010 04:03 YunhOLee wrote:
i'm not 100% sure if it was the real one but during the 2nd phase of beta, someone was playing under the name Dayvie as random and he was doing pretty good so it was probably really him, no idea about CowGoMoo.

Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 04:02 floor exercise wrote:
What about KingHillBilly or whatever his name is. The second warp gates were nerfed he vanished

he went back to WC2 :O some screens were posted a while ago of him saying he was back to WC2 that he didn't like SC2 anymore -.-



Definitely not back to Warcraft 2. I think 10+ years of it may be enough. I am going to remake it in the starcraft 2 editor though (PERSONAL PROJECT ONLY*).. stay tuned.

I've been waiting for SC2 to come out officially before I start playing again. I'll be playing after launch next tuesday.

Cya there!
Simply the Best
Luoson
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand153 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 00:49:07
July 22 2010 00:42 GMT
#31
I'm an active warcraft 2 player and know KHB decently enuff and he is not back or plays very very rarely. I would say he is just busy with real life

I just checked his user name on the server and he hasnt loged in since march 19th

*edit didnt see him post above lol
kevin349
Profile Joined May 2009
United States68 Posts
July 22 2010 00:47 GMT
#32
On July 22 2010 09:42 KingHillBilly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 04:03 YunhOLee wrote:
i'm not 100% sure if it was the real one but during the 2nd phase of beta, someone was playing under the name Dayvie as random and he was doing pretty good so it was probably really him, no idea about CowGoMoo.

On July 22 2010 04:02 floor exercise wrote:
What about KingHillBilly or whatever his name is. The second warp gates were nerfed he vanished

he went back to WC2 :O some screens were posted a while ago of him saying he was back to WC2 that he didn't like SC2 anymore -.-



Definitely not back to Warcraft 2. I think 10+ years of it may be enough. I am going to remake it in the starcraft 2 editor though (PERSONAL PROJECT ONLY*).. stay tuned.

I've been waiting for SC2 to come out officially before I start playing again. I'll be playing after launch next tuesday.

Cya there!


<3 KHB
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
July 22 2010 00:48 GMT
#33
On July 22 2010 09:42 KingHillBilly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 04:03 YunhOLee wrote:
i'm not 100% sure if it was the real one but during the 2nd phase of beta, someone was playing under the name Dayvie as random and he was doing pretty good so it was probably really him, no idea about CowGoMoo.

On July 22 2010 04:02 floor exercise wrote:
What about KingHillBilly or whatever his name is. The second warp gates were nerfed he vanished

he went back to WC2 :O some screens were posted a while ago of him saying he was back to WC2 that he didn't like SC2 anymore -.-



Definitely not back to Warcraft 2. I think 10+ years of it may be enough. I am going to remake it in the starcraft 2 editor though (PERSONAL PROJECT ONLY*).. stay tuned.

I've been waiting for SC2 to come out officially before I start playing again. I'll be playing after launch next tuesday.

Cya there!


Will this be more along the lines of a port or a remake embracing the new pathing, etc?
KingHillBilly
Profile Joined November 2007
United States105 Posts
July 22 2010 01:02 GMT
#34
Remake, rebalance, some new spells, probably new units, etc etc.
Simply the Best
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 01:06:53
July 22 2010 01:06 GMT
#35
http://sc2.vacau.com/sc2/index.php

hes still #16 on US. low game count though

EDIT: cant find cowgomoo he might've changed his alias
Cadgers
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States514 Posts
July 22 2010 01:18 GMT
#36
Anyone care to inform me who these two are?
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 01:21:29
July 22 2010 01:20 GMT
#37
David Kim is balance designer for SC2
CowGoMoo produces vast quantities of dairy products, and supplies most of the western United States. (Also pretty good at SC2).
Capook
Profile Joined April 2010
United States122 Posts
July 22 2010 01:24 GMT
#38
remake of war2 on sc2 !! hell ya!
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 01:46:18
July 22 2010 01:45 GMT
#39
Who still plays wc2 -.-. 1v1 orcs only

i guess its perfectly balanced...
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
July 22 2010 01:46 GMT
#40
According to the rankings website David Kim is ranked 32 globally. It is pretty cool to have one of the lead developers so good at SC2.
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tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
July 22 2010 01:47 GMT
#41
On July 22 2010 10:20 Kennigit wrote:
CowGoMoo produces vast quantities of dairy products, and supplies most of the western United States. (Also pretty good at SC2).


Oh, you witty mod you.
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
July 22 2010 01:49 GMT
#42
On July 22 2010 10:02 KingHillBilly wrote:
Remake, rebalance, some new spells, probably new units, etc etc.


Awesome! Sounds like fun.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
July 22 2010 02:16 GMT
#43
On July 22 2010 09:42 Luoson wrote:
I'm an active warcraft 2 player and know KHB decently enuff and he is not back or plays very very rarely. I would say he is just busy with real life

I just checked his user name on the server and he hasnt loged in since march 19th

*edit didnt see him post above lol

You still play WC2? Wow never knew there're still people playing this game actively.. :o I'd imagine playing WC2 is like playing SC1's PvP with less units on a tiny, no high ground map?
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Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
July 22 2010 02:23 GMT
#44
I always assumed the only reason they were laddering in the first place is because a lot of people were throwing around stuff about imbalance, and both of them work at blizzard and are good players so they played a little to show people what was possible.

after the game developed a little they vanished because they weren't needed anymore
Tomed
Profile Joined August 2005
United States176 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 02:36:45
July 22 2010 02:27 GMT
#45
On July 22 2010 10:20 Kennigit wrote:
CowGoMoo produces vast quantities of dairy products, and supplies most of the western United States. (Also pretty good at SC2).


and also a QA tester for Blizzard (as well as KHB)

edit to add: CGM made a post on TL.net a while back that basically told us that QA testers weren't to participate in the ladder anymore due to legal reasons. I think someone mentioned this earlier though I can't find the original post.
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
July 22 2010 02:33 GMT
#46
On July 22 2010 10:46 Kraz.Del wrote:
According to the rankings website David Kim is ranked 32 globally. It is pretty cool to have one of the lead developers so good at SC2.


that is drewbie.. not david kim lol
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1255 Posts
July 22 2010 02:35 GMT
#47
David Kim was killed by Darth Vader, and became one with the force. He now only appears in the visions of noobs telling them to go to the Degobah system.
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Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
July 22 2010 02:54 GMT
#48
Players come and go more often than you think sadly
Zerum
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden348 Posts
July 22 2010 02:54 GMT
#49
they pretty much only played to get the ball rolling with all the experience they gained from testing inside blizzard
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
July 22 2010 03:18 GMT
#50
On July 22 2010 04:26 Piski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 04:09 lu_cid wrote:
I played Dayvie a couple times on the ladder a few days ago. When I asked him if he was David Kim the internal tester he said he wasn't. He was really strong though, and a random user, so I think he was lying.

Seems weird to deny being the real David Kim (Dayvie) but still play under that name.


I played him in phase 1 and he denied even knowing who blizzard was. That's when I knew it was him.
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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
July 22 2010 03:26 GMT
#51
I think the devs were mainly keeping their heads down because of all the balance changes that were happening in the beta. They were trying to remain as neutral as possible.
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nuclear_nub
Profile Joined July 2010
65 Posts
July 22 2010 03:30 GMT
#52
David Kim was removed from the game for balance reasons - true story.
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
July 22 2010 03:40 GMT
#53
On July 22 2010 09:42 KingHillBilly wrote:
]Definitely not back to Warcraft 2. I think 10+ years of it may be enough. I am going to remake it in the starcraft 2 editor though (PERSONAL PROJECT ONLY*).. stay tuned.


Make a race selection screen where you can choose between orcs and orcs.
KwanROLLLLLLLED
AtomicTon
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States103 Posts
July 22 2010 04:44 GMT
#54
This is how rumors and legends start, exactly what is happening here.
Hilarious

"I heard, David Kim ....."
"Really? Well someone's brother told me ..."
"Well I played him yesterday, but he said it wasn't even him!"

How many Daveys in the world could there be? Like 4,MAYBE
hahaha =)
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Gnarg
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands165 Posts
July 22 2010 04:50 GMT
#55
We should petition blizzard to allow david to enter tournies.
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
July 22 2010 04:51 GMT
#56
i donno, he used to live with ella and lardy, but now they split and theres no more ottawa lans.
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Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
July 22 2010 06:12 GMT
#57
Devs aren't allowed to play in tournaments/show matches for obvious reasons.

Cow stated that he'd rather spend his time working + other activities as he wouldn't be able to play SC2 in tournaments anyway.
Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
July 22 2010 06:24 GMT
#58
Pretty sure, if he is still competitive with top players, Blizzard will eventually set up a showmatch between David Kim and the winner of Blizzcon, for example. Contrary to what they said, yes.
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Cell.cell
Profile Joined April 2010
United States46 Posts
July 27 2010 09:30 GMT
#59
If anyone is still interested. I saw David Kim play in some games tonight at the Fountain Valley Fry's Midnight release. In those games his name was "dayvie" and he was a random player. I think this all but confirms that dayvie in the ladder is definitely him.
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