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Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 20:18:35
June 09 2010 16:05 GMT
#1
Now that we could use Custom Maps that are designed to help players practice while the BNet servers are down, I think it would be awesome if we put together some sort of community project, as if we contribute together we could make sure we are provided with the best practicing tools available.

It would be super easy to contribute. With the features provided to us in these maps, all we have to do is PLAY them.

There are 2 maps that provide us with features that I think really stand out as being perfect for this project. First - YABTO - which provides us with the ability to customize our build orders and practice them, and we can customize our own waves of harass and a timing push. If we get a decent amount of build orders for each match up, and some challenging timings going, I cant think of a better tool to practice our macro play.

Second - Mimic AI. This map basically records your build order and unit mix, and mimics how you play. All you have to do is play it! For this map, I think it would be great if we contributed some of our AI banks, and listed what "Division" we were in on BNet, that way no matter how skilled the players are, we will always have a desirable challenge ready for us.

Once we have a decent amount, if you guys would like, we can contribute them to the developers of each map.

Would there be anyone interested in this? All we would need is a few people from each race in each division. The hardest part will probably be making sure we have someone on the high-end of each race, but even if we got a diamond level random player that would probably suffice!

Edit- There have been alot of responses about Mimic AI, so I'm adding the instructions on how to submit.

Instructions for the whole process for anyone who would like to submit

1) Download the Mimic AI map (the current version at the moment is 1.2b on the right side of this page - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/mimic-ai/

2) If you want the optional basis AI's that the developer provided, also download "Mimic AI Data (optional)" on the right.

3) Put the MimicAIData file in to your "My Documents\Starcraft 2 Beta\Banks" folder. If the "Banks" folder does not exist, just make one and put the file inside.

4) Drag the MimicAI Map on to the icon for your Starcraft 2 Editor (in the folder you installed Starcraft 2 to).

5) Go to File > Preferences, and change the game speed to your desired speed.

6) Hit the "Test Document" button (the last button on top of the screen of the editor) to launch the game.Play a game.

7) If you are satisfied with your performance, at the end of your game, type "-save" (without the quotes). You will see a message on the top left telling you that it is saving, and then again when it has finished saving.

After that, once you quit out of the game and relaunch, the MimicAI will be able to attempt to mimic your performance. It will save up to 30 BO's to your MimicAiData file in your "MyDocuments\Starcraft 2 Beta\Banks" folder.

So if you would like to contribute, use "-save" on some of your games, and upload your MimicAIData file, and let us know your race, division, and if your BO was designed to play against a specific race and/or build.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
June 09 2010 16:37 GMT
#2
Uhm, how do we provide our AI banks? Should we post replays of our games or something?
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Iwbhs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States195 Posts
June 09 2010 16:40 GMT
#3
how does Mimic AI record like, harrass and drops?
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Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
June 09 2010 16:44 GMT
#4
On June 10 2010 01:37 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Uhm, how do we provide our AI banks? Should we post replays of our games or something?


Just play the map, at the end type -save. Then if you go to your my documents\starcraft 2 beta\banks folder, you will see MimicAIData.sc2bank. According to the map info, the AI data contains up to 30 saved build orders.

On June 10 2010 01:40 Iwbhs wrote:
how does Mimic AI record like, harrass and drops?


No idea. But if you have any problems or if it needs any features, post on the developers page and I'm sure they will add if possible.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
June 09 2010 16:46 GMT
#5
On June 10 2010 01:44 Spyridon wrote:
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On June 10 2010 01:37 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Uhm, how do we provide our AI banks? Should we post replays of our games or something?


Just play the map, at the end type -save. Then if you go to your my documents\starcraft 2 beta\banks folder, you will see MimicAIData.sc2bank. According to the map info, the AI data contains up to 30 saved build orders.

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On June 10 2010 01:40 Iwbhs wrote:
how does Mimic AI record like, harrass and drops?


No idea. But if you have any problems or if it needs any features, post on the developers page and I'm sure they will add if possible.



Now I understand, this is a very good way of helping out new players. I'll look for this MIMIC AI map so I can try providing so cute BO's I made
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
June 09 2010 16:52 GMT
#6
On June 10 2010 01:46 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Now I understand, this is a very good way of helping out new players. I'll look for this MIMIC AI map so I can try providing so cute BO's I made


Indeed it should be awesome training.

Heres a link, sorry I forgot to list it - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/mimic-ai/
XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
June 09 2010 18:06 GMT
#7
I dled and when I get in game it says 3 messages one for each race that some tool or somethng is missing? How do I fix this?
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Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
June 09 2010 18:27 GMT
#8
On June 10 2010 03:06 XXXSmOke wrote:
I dled and when I get in game it says 3 messages one for each race that some tool or somethng is missing? How do I fix this?


That typically means it has no AI saved yet. That is normal unless you have saved an AI already.

You can type... -save at the end of your game and it will save your build order. Close the game and next time you reopen, the game will know how to play that race.

Or, if you look at the download link I provided, and on the right there is a download for "Mimic AI Data (Optional)". Download this, and put it in your my documents\starcraft 2 beta\Banks folder. That installs some basic AI's, and you should be ready to go!
Cybes
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden23 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 18:46:58
June 09 2010 18:41 GMT
#9
I'm a low diamond/top play toss. I will start playing now!

Edit: Question: The game seems to be on fast and can I somehow make both me and the AI always spawn as toss?
tellthenightcomes
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada66 Posts
June 09 2010 18:56 GMT
#10
I think this is a very good idea. I have been playing these maps and they do help. I just dont understand how to make tourney with the ai. I also am not to sure how i can sue other races with mimic just prottos shows up
Soel
Profile Joined June 2010
90 Posts
June 09 2010 19:04 GMT
#11
wait you can play custom maps while the servers are down?? wtf? really?
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
June 09 2010 19:18 GMT
#12
On June 10 2010 04:04 Soel wrote:
wait you can play custom maps while the servers are down?? wtf? really?


Yes, from the Map Editor. Open up the map inside Map Editor, then in the top-right corner click the "Test Document" (or press F9) button. It doesn't require connection to battle.net - it's just like a single player custom map.

Regarding OP - I think this is a great idea! I wish I was a good enough player to make some contributions to help this out.
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Cybes
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden23 Posts
June 09 2010 19:20 GMT
#13
On June 10 2010 04:04 Soel wrote:
wait you can play custom maps while the servers are down?? wtf? really?

Yes, just double click the map you want to play and run it with the Sc2 client.
Client: C:\Users\Public\Games\StarCraft II Beta\
Maps: C:\Users\<User name>\Documents\StarCraft II Beta\Maps
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 09 2010 19:22 GMT
#14
Wow mimic AI is really cool, I remember someone tried to make one for BW but it was buggy as fuck.
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
June 09 2010 19:34 GMT
#15
On June 10 2010 03:41 Cybes wrote:
I'm a low diamond/top play toss. I will start playing now!

Edit: Question: The game seems to be on fast and can I somehow make both me and the AI always spawn as toss?


You can go in to game options in game and change the speed, I'm sure u can do it in the map somehow but i forgot to try to figure it out. I should do that sometime.

For the race, in the Editor, go to the Map menu on top, and then pick Player Properties. On the Player tab you can set Race and how many CPU players you want.

On June 10 2010 04:18 EscPlan9 wrote:
Regarding OP - I think this is a great idea! I wish I was a good enough player to make some contributions to help this out.


What division were you on BNet before the server went down? It would be best if we could get people from every division to submit, even if you arent a good player! The people who have never played the game will want some Bronze AI's to go against too =)
Soel
Profile Joined June 2010
90 Posts
June 09 2010 19:38 GMT
#16
I am high level (? i think... 450+ ELO last patch) terran player.

I would be happy to contribute, but I am not entirely sure I understand what to do.
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
June 09 2010 19:50 GMT
#17
On June 10 2010 04:38 Soel wrote:
I am high level (? i think... 450+ ELO last patch) terran player.

I would be happy to contribute, but I am not entirely sure I understand what to do.


It's an easy process -

1) Download the Mimic AI map (the current version at the moment is 1.2b on the right side of this page - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/mimic-ai/

2) If you want the optional basis AI's that the developer provided, also download "Mimic AI Data (optional)" on the right.

3) Put the MimicAIData file in to your "My Documents\Starcraft 2 Beta\Banks" folder. If the "Banks" folder does not exist, just make one and put the file inside.

4) Drag the MimicAI Map on to the icon for your Starcraft 2 Editor (in the folder you installed Starcraft 2 to).

5) Hit the "Test Document" button (the last button on top of the screen of the editor) to launch the game.

6) Play a game.

7) If you are satisfied with your performance, at the end of your game, type "-save" (without the quotes). You will see a message on the top left telling you that it is saving, and then again when it has finished saving.

After that, once you quit out of the game and relaunch, the MimicAI will be able to attempt to mimic your performance. It will save up to 30 BO's to your MimicAiData file in your "MyDocuments\Starcraft 2 Beta\Banks" folder.

So if you would like to contribute, use "-save" on some of your games, and upload your MimicAIData file, and let us know your race, division, and if your BO was designed to play against a specific race and/or build.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 09 2010 19:56 GMT
#18
really look forward to trying this after work! Thanks for informing us.
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Soel
Profile Joined June 2010
90 Posts
June 09 2010 20:05 GMT
#19
thanks very much, I'm going to definitely try this out.

One thing though, the game feels like its on like "slow" or some speed setting... but in game variants it says "faster"

any idea what the deal is ?
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 20:17:46
June 09 2010 20:15 GMT
#20
On June 10 2010 05:05 Soel wrote:
thanks very much, I'm going to definitely try this out.

One thing though, the game feels like its on like "slow" or some speed setting... but in game variants it says "faster"

any idea what the deal is ?


In the editor go to File > Preferences, and you can set game speed from there.

You can also hit Escape in game, and go to the Gameplay menu in your options, and adjust the speed from there.

Also, I'd like some variety to the maps, and the developer gave instructions on how we could use it on different maps, but I have no idea where the BNet maps downloaded to, and the editor cant connect to bnet because it's down. So if anyone is able to provide the regular BNet maps, please let me know!
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