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On May 19 2010 13:11 Subversion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2010 11:06 ccdnl wrote:On May 19 2010 07:24 QueueQueue wrote:
I don't smoke pot, but if someone chooses to have some name that loosely ties to that, who cares? I mean, pot abuse is less harmful than alcohol abuse, however, I'm sure someone with an alcohol related name would be left alone. To state that the name is offensive is just plain ignorant (unless of course, drugs such as alcohol, or caffeine are offensive to you as well). Ironically I'm sure a lot of people that claim it as "offensive" consume alcohol at least once in a while or at least accept that people around them do; which in its own is hypocritical.
I understand the argument about it being illegal being in violation of the TOS, however if they are going to take the approach that illegal things are inappropriate, enforce this policy on any name that has any sort of tie to illegal activity.
I also understand that blizzard does not want to step on people's toes on this subject. The average person is incredibly ignorant when it comes to understanding drugs; so people blindly associate illegal drugs with being really bad, while accepting things in our society that are significantly worse for us. But really, if they are going to be so strict about drug related names, change stim packs to something else >.<
I second QueueQueue's opinion portrayed in his post on this subject. Lol, seriously? You're turning this into a "is weed bad" argument? Drugs are illegal. Reference to illegal activities can be construed as an inappropriate name, end of story. Your opinions on weed as an illegal substance are completely irrelevant.
Wow it's like blizzard is turning into Big Brother. You can't make a name that is a referance to an illegal activity. So like would I get banned for making the name speed because speeding is illegal? Or how about the name Jay. I mean jaywalking is illegal too right? There's a lot of places where it's illegal to park too, they should ban the name park as well, just to see how well it goes over in Korea.
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They better not start banning people for "funnybananaman" since bananas are penis shaped or for some other retarded logic like what they're already using -_-
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Banning Dopeman is stupid. Banning offensive names in general however, I agree with.
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Banning offensive names is a good idea. Doing so without giving the person a chance to change their name in case like this is bad policy. The first step should be denying access until the player chooses a new name. Repeat offenders can then be banned. Summarily banning without a warning is bad business.
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For all they know, dopeman could just be referring to a silly person. Only people that KNOW about weed would get the reference, therefore children and stupid people can't be offended unless someone explains to them that it's a nickname for an illegal drug. Also, if a grownup is offended by the word dope, they're overly sensitive.
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wow seriously? dopeman? I hope its not like this when the game is out.
this is madness!
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Have you noticed how sensitive the chat filter is, it's probably the same guy removing names lol seriously who ever is one that takes offense to everything like "xbox" is a mature word apparently so is steamrolled.
Although i do think dopeman is in poor taste it's not really offensive. I mean drugdealer or crackhead not really a good name but it's not NIGGERKILLER or nazilover, jewyou etc it's not exactly targeting a group or anything.
It better just be a warn and name change for retail else i feel they are going to get a lawsuit.
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On May 19 2010 13:36 daz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2010 13:11 Subversion wrote:On May 19 2010 11:06 ccdnl wrote:On May 19 2010 07:24 QueueQueue wrote:
I don't smoke pot, but if someone chooses to have some name that loosely ties to that, who cares? I mean, pot abuse is less harmful than alcohol abuse, however, I'm sure someone with an alcohol related name would be left alone. To state that the name is offensive is just plain ignorant (unless of course, drugs such as alcohol, or caffeine are offensive to you as well). Ironically I'm sure a lot of people that claim it as "offensive" consume alcohol at least once in a while or at least accept that people around them do; which in its own is hypocritical.
I understand the argument about it being illegal being in violation of the TOS, however if they are going to take the approach that illegal things are inappropriate, enforce this policy on any name that has any sort of tie to illegal activity.
I also understand that blizzard does not want to step on people's toes on this subject. The average person is incredibly ignorant when it comes to understanding drugs; so people blindly associate illegal drugs with being really bad, while accepting things in our society that are significantly worse for us. But really, if they are going to be so strict about drug related names, change stim packs to something else >.<
I second QueueQueue's opinion portrayed in his post on this subject. Lol, seriously? You're turning this into a "is weed bad" argument? Drugs are illegal. Reference to illegal activities can be construed as an inappropriate name, end of story. Your opinions on weed as an illegal substance are completely irrelevant. Wow it's like blizzard is turning into Big Brother. You can't make a name that is a referance to an illegal activity. So like would I get banned for making the name speed because speeding is illegal? Or how about the name Jay. I mean jaywalking is illegal too right? There's a lot of places where it's illegal to park too, they should ban the name park as well, just to see how well it goes over in Korea.
That's a pretty weak argument. Speed, Jay and Park all have a lot of ambiguity, and noone would ever immediately make the reference to traffic violations. "Dope" is pretty straightforward.
Also, there's a big difference between a traffic violation and a serious criminal offence. Noone ever got jailtime from double-parking.
I should mention that I really couldn't give a damn what people call themselves, I wouldn't find it offensive at all. But there are plenty of people out there who are petty and would complain, so Blizzard has to cover that. All I'm saying is that's easy to understand, and to try and get on a high horse about "alcohol is worse than weed bro" is just really, really dumb and completely besides the point.
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I got banned for using "Pedobear"
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Blizzard = your dad before you go out on Saturday night
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On May 19 2010 11:21 endy wrote:Show nested quote +(ix) Comprised of partial or complete sentence (e.g., "Inyourface", "Welovebeef", etc);
(x) Comprised of gibberish (e.g., "Asdfasdf", "Jjxccm", "Hvlldrm");
(xi) Referring to pop culture icons or personas (e.g. " "Britneyspears", "Austinpowers", "Batman")
(xii) That utilizes "Leet" or "Dudespeak" (e.g., "Roflcopter", "xxnewbxx", "Roxxoryou")
(xiii) That incorporates titles. For purposes of this subsection, "titles" shall include without limitation 'rank' titles (e.g. , "CorporalTed," or "GeneralVlad"), monarchistic or fantasy titles (e.g., "KingMike", "LordSanchez"), and religious titles (e.g., "ThePope," or "Reverend Al"). All these rules are utterly retarded.  DO YOU REALIZE BY.FLASH WOULD BE BANNED ? omg omg omg
omfg how am i suppose to get xXxaZn13oodWaRR10RxXx
granted the name is stupid but it should be allowed none the less, don't do the moderation let the ridicule from his peers be the moderation.
although i guess it's fair if it's the agreement before you make the name lol i forget if it was in there but i read that dam thing long ago and i don't remeber that.
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On May 19 2010 07:15 Neptuneajax wrote:
While I do not support the ban for the player in regular circumstances, you guys have to remember that this is the Beta. It is Blizzard's Beta. I; you; we, are all privileged to be a part of it. And if Blizzard wish to implement inane bannings during the Beta, let them do so. I really hope this kind of over policing does not occur once the actual game is released however.
Amen.
Also the word filter is absolutely hilarious. Filtering out words like "came" and "white" and "black" which are more commonly used in regular discourse than as something innapropriate. I was literally laughing out loud when I was trying to type about strategy and half of my words were blanked out.
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lol at blizzard. They are going to extreme lengths to get this game a lower parental advisory warning to appease the sanctimonious conservative set in the USA and Korea. They will fail and irritate fans in the process.
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On May 19 2010 10:46 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2010 10:45 Windblade wrote:
Banning over Dopeman is a bit harsh, however the policy is good and NECESSARY, do you want kids playing with people with names like PussyRocks, IFuckYourMomLongTime, etc. ?
I think not. can't they just not let u make names that have filtered words in them?
Lol white-ra better change his name then 
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has blizzard entertainment never heard of the very important neurotransmitter dopamine?
for the record... I'm a pastry chef who also likes to play poker, mr. blizzard employee.
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Dopeman is overkill, but in principle I have no problem with this. It shouldn't be too hard to be creative enough to come up with a name that isn't censored.
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On May 19 2010 13:11 Subversion wrote:
Lol, seriously? You're turning this into a "is weed bad" argument? Drugs are illegal. Reference to illegal activities can be construed as an inappropriate name, end of story. Your opinions on weed as an illegal substance are completely irrelevant.
My points were applicable to this situation because other words that reference other (not all of course) illegal activity will be untouched, while a loose drug reference is scrutinized. Your argument that is relates to illegal activities fine, if they actually enforced it in that manner, but we can find references to illegal activity in so many names you would see on Bnet. Are we going to start banning names that have "Kill", "Steal", "Tax Evader", or "DontPayParkingMeters" somewhere in their name? No, they probably wouldn't be.
Why is it, that someone would get more offended about a drug reference in someone's name and not "Kill"? Both violate the TOS as illegal activities.
So if Blizzard is going to have gray area in naming conventions when it pertains to illegal activity, why scrutinize the illegal activity that isn't nearly as offensive and let worse acts of illegal activity go untouched. I don't know about you, but in my opinion, the illegal act of killing someone, or stealing from someone is much worse than someone smoking pot and therefore should be more offensive based on their TOS naming criteria. I am sure we can go through MANY names that wouldn't be banned that relate to acts much worse and more offensive than smoking pot.
So what is the justification of that? It's simple, it's people's ignorance on the topic. The stigma about drugs being such a horrible thing overshadows things that are much worse, and because of that, blizzard will be hypocritical in regards to their own naming TOS.
My points in my first post had no intention of starting any sort of discussion about the legal standing on drugs; if that was what was interpreted from it, I am sorry. I was only emphasizing the ignorance people have on the topic of drugs as a means to show how ridiculous it that someone would get offended over a drug reference and not to other, worse illegal acts.
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On May 19 2010 14:12 Kashll wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2010 10:46 travis wrote:On May 19 2010 10:45 Windblade wrote:
Banning over Dopeman is a bit harsh, however the policy is good and NECESSARY, do you want kids playing with people with names like PussyRocks, IFuckYourMomLongTime, etc. ?
I think not. can't they just not let u make names that have filtered words in them? Lol white-ra better change his name then
yeah zeesh racism and religious shit.
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Fair enough.
But I'm pretty sure a name with "Rape" or "Torture" may be banned.
"Killed" is difficult because it is not necessarily offensive. I mean, killing a person is illegal, but you can kill plenty of other things as well. It also could refer to killing units in-game. If your name was "IKillPeople" you'd probably get the same treatment.
Like I said, I'm not at all offended by these names, but I know the power of people's pettiness =/
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he could be a heroin dealer!!!! offensive to my virgin eyeballs!
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