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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
May 19 2010 05:38 GMT
#181
I don't find it stupid but "Dopeman" is a dumb handle : 3
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wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
May 19 2010 05:38 GMT
#182
Well, i guess ZergBong cant play beta, fuck that sucks.
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UbOs
Profile Joined February 2009
United States28 Posts
May 19 2010 05:38 GMT
#183
yeah.. dope is heroin.
or an adjective.

the only type of person i could imagine actually being 'offended' by dopeman is an heroine(or otherwise opiate) user withdrawing or trying to quit.


On May 19 2010 13:11 Subversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 11:06 ccdnl wrote:
On May 19 2010 07:24 QueueQueue wrote:
I don't smoke pot, but if someone chooses to have some name that loosely ties to that, who cares? I mean, pot abuse is less harmful than alcohol abuse, however, I'm sure someone with an alcohol related name would be left alone. To state that the name is offensive is just plain ignorant (unless of course, drugs such as alcohol, or caffeine are offensive to you as well). Ironically I'm sure a lot of people that claim it as "offensive" consume alcohol at least once in a while or at least accept that people around them do; which in its own is hypocritical.

I understand the argument about it being illegal being in violation of the TOS, however if they are going to take the approach that illegal things are inappropriate, enforce this policy on any name that has any sort of tie to illegal activity.

I also understand that blizzard does not want to step on people's toes on this subject. The average person is incredibly ignorant when it comes to understanding drugs; so people blindly associate illegal drugs with being really bad, while accepting things in our society that are significantly worse for us. But really, if they are going to be so strict about drug related names, change stim packs to something else >.<



I second QueueQueue's opinion portrayed in his post on this subject.


Lol, seriously? You're turning this into a "is weed bad" argument? Drugs are illegal. Reference to illegal activities can be construed as an inappropriate name, end of story. Your opinions on weed as an illegal substance are completely irrelevant.


dopeman really isn't about weed but even if it was, weed is not illegal for everyone.
what's the line for medical marijuana users?
also, illegal != offensive
imo.

also, "dope" man is technically not a reference to a illegal activity just as "bullet" man is not considered a reference to assault or murder.


keNNabis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada159 Posts
May 19 2010 05:41 GMT
#184
i hope kennabis is in the clear, since cannabis is a word. :O
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XiaoZhuPa
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore30 Posts
May 19 2010 05:47 GMT
#185
To me dope just means slang for awesome...(didn't know about weed reference) I think Blizzard is being ridiculous here. I believe the word Black is also censored by the filter?
Eat Me.
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 06:04:32
May 19 2010 05:54 GMT
#186
On May 19 2010 14:36 Subversion wrote:


"Killed" is difficult because it is not necessarily offensive. I mean, killing a person is illegal, but you can kill plenty of other things as well.



Yeah, and this is why this TOS is flawed.

Words can be taken in different contexts. People use "Dope" in the context of stupidity, as well as something being "Awesome". Speed can be a reference to methamphetamine, but also the rate at which something moves.

You mentioning that while killing people is illegal, you can kill other things brings up another issue. Could we not use a similar argument for pot? Some people use medicinal marijuana, and it is used in a legal context. So suddenly, we're taking two things, and using them both in a legal and illegal situation, and of both, the one with "Dope" in it is worse than a reference to killing? Really? That is pretty counter intuitive to what you think a policy stating "No reference to criminal activity" would be enforcing.

So suddenly, we are entering all this gray area in their TOS, and it's somewhat unfair to people. I know the simple means is to just avoid all names that could have any sort of tie to anything illegal, but we know that will not happen. However, some people who clearly violate the TOS will be banned, while others that are also violating will go untouched.



Personally, I could care less what names people have; but things don't really offend me.



jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
May 19 2010 06:00 GMT
#187
playing devils advocate ... the beta is free and they can do what they want honestly, they are trying to keep it as "kid" friendly as possible i assume ... although i know its not really a game for kid.s
Therapist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States97 Posts
May 19 2010 06:03 GMT
#188
It seems like I was banned too for my name, this is ridiculus ...
No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
May 19 2010 06:05 GMT
#189
You should rename your self "Stimman" and get that name banned, now that would be some grade A irony...
(US) NoRoo.fighting
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
May 19 2010 06:30 GMT
#190
I sincerely wonder if the same thing happened to white-ra. Every time you type "white" it's bleeped as "!%*$#"

totally awesome :>
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space_yes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States548 Posts
May 19 2010 06:31 GMT
#191
That is total bullshit dopeman. You can get another key through pre-orders or just wait until the game comes out in July..
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
May 19 2010 06:39 GMT
#192
On May 19 2010 15:30 Day[9] wrote:
I sincerely wonder if the same thing happened to white-ra. Every time you type "white" it's bleeped as "!%*$#"

totally awesome :>




Yeah, they most definitely need to re-assess their "swear filter". I can't see the logic behind leaving it as is for release.
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
May 19 2010 06:52 GMT
#193
Crap, so far if I played someone like FuckMyDoggie or smth like that, i at least knew he was most likely BM, and prolly going to cheese me. Now i wont even have that :S
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
May 19 2010 06:57 GMT
#194
I agree that blizzard should have the power to prevent players using offensive names. But I honestly think banning is the wrong approach. Especially when this game goes live, because offensive can at some level be subjective. Personally I think it would be much better if Blizzard renamed offensive names. If someone called themselves AssFace and that is deemed offensive then blizzard should be able to rename it to PassFace or LastPlace or whatever they want. This would (a) be a less autocratic approach, (b) let blizzard show a bit of homor, (c) mock offensive players a little as reminder of what they have done, in a form they can not easily remove/forget because they are stuck with it.
Throw a $10 fee for name changes on top so they have the option to pay to fix it and they will be grateful that they are not stuck with it, and blizzard will make money instead of loose customers via ban.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
fathead
Profile Joined July 2008
United States158 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 07:04:52
May 19 2010 06:58 GMT
#195
On May 19 2010 06:55 Aphelion wrote:
Drug reference, but this is overdone. Still I understand why Blizzard would do it, if they thought it was necessary to implement a filter, they can't let usernames skirt that censorship. Blizzard wanted to make sure this game won't cause any controversy among the nanny culture that we live in. I don't support this ban, but it is a reflection upon our PC culture backed by ridiculous litigation and inane media obsession.


Then why not just force them to change their name? Or warn them? A Ban seems ridiculous.


Also if the OP got the beta from pre-ordering then it his his legal right to ask for a refund. Any time the provider chooses to block services from the end users you are entitled to a refund.


In fact just by clicking the "decline" to the TOS entitles you to a refund, since the contract is made AFTER you bought the game.
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
May 19 2010 07:06 GMT
#196
On May 19 2010 09:46 Attica wrote:
Blue post already responded to someone that was banned for their name 'weedking' 2 months ago. They said they don't actively look for offensive names so if you were banned for a name it was because someone reported you. Obviously you should consider that being in beta is a privilege not a right.

I wonder if they would ban me if I named myself Crackling. O_o

chances are that no one was offended by his name but rather reported him because he pissed them off in some way
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
May 19 2010 07:08 GMT
#197
On May 19 2010 15:57 DeCoup wrote:
I agree that blizzard should have the power to prevent players using offensive names. But I honestly think banning is the wrong approach. Especially when this game goes live, because offensive can at some level be subjective. Personally I think it would be much better if Blizzard renamed offensive names. If someone called themselves AssFace and that is deemed offensive then blizzard should be able to rename it to PassFace or LastPlace or whatever they want. This would (a) be a less autocratic approach, (b) let blizzard show a bit of homor, (c) mock offensive players a little as reminder of what they have done, in a form they can not easily remove/forget because they are stuck with it.
Throw a $10 fee for name changes on top so they have the option to pay to fix it and they will be grateful that they are not stuck with it, and blizzard will make money instead of loose customers via ban.

Man I have to say your idea really amuses me and I like it. Haven't really thought about if it's a good, serious idea overall because I'm hella tired and about to sleep, but still... naming someone LastPlace is great.

I think if Blizzard assumes each name ban will generate an extra sale, they'll forecast more profit from their current policy.
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7870 Posts
May 19 2010 07:12 GMT
#198
Dopeman is a NWA song.. why is that offensive..
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 19 2010 07:13 GMT
#199
Lol, this isn't even half as bad as the phallus guy
In the woods, there lurks..
ZergOwaR
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway280 Posts
May 19 2010 07:21 GMT
#200
On May 19 2010 15:30 Day[9] wrote:
I sincerely wonder if the same thing happened to white-ra. Every time you type "white" it's bleeped as "!%*$#"

totally awesome :>


yay blizzard for going overboard! :D
is yellow bleeped out aswell? in that case i guess the beatles would be sad... #%¤&!¤ submarine! :D

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