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On May 27 2012 05:33 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Is there any news on Day9 having a day9 daily for higher level players? I can only watch him cast games now, because all of his dailies are tailored towards lower league players (no offense guys) which really doesn't do anything for me... or the minority of players in my situation. Anywho hopefully he is.
Watch more closely. His presentation is geared for all, but he often attacks topics and methods that pro levelp players are using, and if you read deeply, its often pretty meta game changing. I think there is something for everyone. There's a reason that pro's watch his show.
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Uniden is live (rebroadcast)
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Is there a Funday Monday topic announced? I have no idea where this information can be found, so I apologise if this is an ignorant question.
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miss you buddy 
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On June 24 2012 10:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Is there a Funday Monday topic announced? I have no idea where this information can be found, so I apologise if this is an ignorant question.
Month long for all of June:
As Zerg, use Neutral Parasite on your enemy's worker, use that to build the OTHER RACE, and then kill the enemy with THAT RACE
fun stuff 
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On June 24 2012 14:22 leova wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 10:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Is there a Funday Monday topic announced? I have no idea where this information can be found, so I apologise if this is an ignorant question. Month long for all of June: As Zerg, use Neutral Parasite on your enemy's worker, use that to build the OTHER RACE, and then kill the enemy with THAT RACE fun stuff
Damn, that's gonna be a tough one! Usually I never watch Funday Mondays but this one seems interesting.
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your Country52798 Posts
On June 24 2012 14:22 leova wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 10:19 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Is there a Funday Monday topic announced? I have no idea where this information can be found, so I apologise if this is an ignorant question. Month long for all of June: As Zerg, use Neutral Parasite on your enemy's worker, use that to build the OTHER RACE, and then kill the enemy with THAT RACE fun stuff
Cool, now my 52 minute ZTvT will be useful... 
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On June 11 2012 14:12 Grimmyman123 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 05:33 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Is there any news on Day9 having a day9 daily for higher level players? I can only watch him cast games now, because all of his dailies are tailored towards lower league players (no offense guys) which really doesn't do anything for me... or the minority of players in my situation. Anywho hopefully he is. Watch more closely. His presentation is geared for all, but he often attacks topics and methods that pro levelp players are using, and if you read deeply, its often pretty meta game changing. I think there is something for everyone. There's a reason that pro's watch his show.
pros dont watch his show.. mostly bronze - diamonds.
If pros watch it im sure its for the entertainment, not for strategies.
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Hey was there a game in his show this evening with a protoss named "Mr. Frenchy". He's my buddy and he got positively ravaged by mass contaminate last week.
edit just saw "rebroadcast"
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I just emailed feedback@day9.tv with an idea for Funday Monday and I was just curious if anyone likes it. I call it "Art Craft". The objective is to draw a picture somewhere on the map using some of your units and queued patrol points. To prevent turtling, maybe you can only draw while attacking or something like that.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina261 Posts
On June 30 2012 04:06 KillingVector wrote:
I just emailed feedback@day9.tv with an idea for Funday Monday and I was just curious if anyone likes it. I call it "Art Craft". The objective is to draw a picture somewhere on the map using some of your units and queued patrol points. To prevent turtling, maybe you can only draw while attacking or something like that.
I believe everyone will just "draw" a penis.
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On June 25 2012 04:09 kax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 14:12 Grimmyman123 wrote:On May 27 2012 05:33 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Is there any news on Day9 having a day9 daily for higher level players? I can only watch him cast games now, because all of his dailies are tailored towards lower league players (no offense guys) which really doesn't do anything for me... or the minority of players in my situation. Anywho hopefully he is. Watch more closely. His presentation is geared for all, but he often attacks topics and methods that pro levelp players are using, and if you read deeply, its often pretty meta game changing. I think there is something for everyone. There's a reason that pro's watch his show. pros dont watch his show.. mostly bronze - diamonds. If pros watch it im sure its for the entertainment, not for strategies.
Yeah I don't know where the "pros watch the daily" came from, but I agree with the fact that as a masters player there isn't too much there anymore. It helped me get here though so I'm grateful. But watching dailies now is usually a test of patience.
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On June 30 2012 05:47 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2012 04:09 kax wrote:On June 11 2012 14:12 Grimmyman123 wrote:On May 27 2012 05:33 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Is there any news on Day9 having a day9 daily for higher level players? I can only watch him cast games now, because all of his dailies are tailored towards lower league players (no offense guys) which really doesn't do anything for me... or the minority of players in my situation. Anywho hopefully he is. Watch more closely. His presentation is geared for all, but he often attacks topics and methods that pro levelp players are using, and if you read deeply, its often pretty meta game changing. I think there is something for everyone. There's a reason that pro's watch his show. pros dont watch his show.. mostly bronze - diamonds. If pros watch it im sure its for the entertainment, not for strategies. Yeah I don't know where the "pros watch the daily" came from, but I agree with the fact that as a masters player there isn't too much there anymore. It helped me get here though so I'm grateful. But watching dailies now is usually a test of patience.
Really? I find it hard to believe that you can't learn anything from them. Even Masters-league players aren't professional-caliber (for the most part), so I have a difficult time imagining that every possible nuance is understood at a glance through the game by even that level of player. What are you looking for when you see a commentary video like that? The only place I can think of where you'd get higher levels of analysis would be Artosis or pros analyzing their own games (and you have to be careful of personal bias in those situations, sometimes).
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On June 30 2012 07:57 Jazzman88 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 05:47 Clarity_nl wrote:On June 25 2012 04:09 kax wrote:On June 11 2012 14:12 Grimmyman123 wrote:On May 27 2012 05:33 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Is there any news on Day9 having a day9 daily for higher level players? I can only watch him cast games now, because all of his dailies are tailored towards lower league players (no offense guys) which really doesn't do anything for me... or the minority of players in my situation. Anywho hopefully he is. Watch more closely. His presentation is geared for all, but he often attacks topics and methods that pro levelp players are using, and if you read deeply, its often pretty meta game changing. I think there is something for everyone. There's a reason that pro's watch his show. pros dont watch his show.. mostly bronze - diamonds. If pros watch it im sure its for the entertainment, not for strategies. Yeah I don't know where the "pros watch the daily" came from, but I agree with the fact that as a masters player there isn't too much there anymore. It helped me get here though so I'm grateful. But watching dailies now is usually a test of patience. Really? I find it hard to believe that you can't learn anything from them. Even Masters-league players aren't professional-caliber (for the most part), so I have a difficult time imagining that every possible nuance is understood at a glance through the game by even that level of player. What are you looking for when you see a commentary video like that? The only place I can think of where you'd get higher levels of analysis would be Artosis or pros analyzing their own games (and you have to be careful of personal bias in those situations, sometimes).
While I don't think a lot of pros watch the D9D regularly, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of Grandmaster players tuning in for every episode (or watching the VODs), and I'm also very sure the percentage of Master players watching is higher than the percentage of Master players you will find on ladder.
If you say that you can't get out anything from analysis like Day9 does it I think you are just lieing or overrating yourself immensely. Of course at a certain point there are much more effective ways to get better faster if you analyse games which are interesting for you personally, especially as you can skip a lot of things that are just useless information. So watching a D9D in 60 minutes will probably be worth like 5-10 minutes at best of your own "analyzation time", but a nice advantage is that you can do other stuff while watching it (preparing/eating food, relaxing, doing laundry etc.) and there is a slight chance that you even get to see something that you wouldn't have searched for yourself. And of course its often enough really good entertainment.
That said you can guarantee that at least half of the dailies are only useful for pure entertainment and don't really help your skill level that much, because they are funday mondays or simply cover replays that you already know or matchups that you don't play.
By the way I personally think Artosis analysis isn't more high level than what Day9 is doing, but Day9 often tends to be way more theoretical about stuff (which can be kind of useless often times (because its not practical) and give cool ideas at other times), while Artosis covers a lot more practical ideas which he has seen in use for progamers and are mostly part of the current metagame (and often part of a metagame that is not seen in tournaments as much and is more part of the ladder metagame stuff that isn't quite refined enough to be used by good players in tournaments, but apparent enough on ladder that you get to see it regularly). Artosis thing reminded me of the early SC:BW D9D when Day9 had a similar format. But with SC2 he actually prepares his dailies and thinks about the stuff hes going to say hours before the daily even starts, so he automatically floated into the more theoretical corner because he has more time to think about the specific stuff that is happening I think. That said Artosis didn't really do new videos for a long time as far as I know and he didn't do that many in the first place, which is kind of sad.
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I honestly don't understand people's rejection of theory-crafting at every level. How do they think new builds are drawn-up? What day9 does for sc2 is far and away better than 99% of anyone else.
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I love day9, but the other guys are right. Chances are, if you're masters/GM, you can analyze games at the same level that he can. There are some savants that are just that good without understanding what's going on, or aren't otherwise capable of explaining what is going on (IE: Stephano), but most players at that bracket can't really draw much out of the analysis. Which is fine!
And though higher level players may not watch the show for the analysis, I bet there's plenty that watch it for the entertainment  he's fun to listen to!
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I miss Day[9].... I mean, I know he needs the vacation... but the separation anxiety feels like ingesting a square yard of sandpaper.
Day[9] better be having SO MUCH FUN right now.
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I miss you too Day9 ! Come back asap <3
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Dear Sean,
I know you're taking a well-deserved break, but...
I miss you. Come back soon.
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