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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18747 Posts
May 22 2025 19:58 GMT
#1161
Spurs are the most successful club in London this season. Thats a fact every person in London would agree with.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27377 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-22 20:09:05
May 22 2025 20:08 GMT
#1162
Inter are one of the best teams in Europe this season. If we lose in a CL final, we’ve still shown that.

So yeah I’ll take that.

Arsenal won the FA Cup under Arteta and the criticism was that it was only the FA Cup and they weren’t challenge for the big honours.

If Arteta next season said fuck the league and Europe, we need a trophy and 100% focused on the FA and League Cup, even if they won it you wouldn’t be saying it’s a great season would you?
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18747 Posts
May 22 2025 20:23 GMT
#1163
Not if you are #1 in net spend. The one who spends the most should also be the one who wins the most no? We are in the spot of we win the least
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28894 Posts
May 22 2025 20:34 GMT
#1164
On May 23 2025 04:58 sharkie wrote:
Spurs are the most successful club in London this season. Thats a fact every person in London would agree with.


Crystal Palace also won a trophy and they're higher placed on the league table as well. They broke a longer dry spell, too.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18747 Posts
May 22 2025 20:41 GMT
#1165
Yes but europa league is worth more than a FA cup
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7406 Posts
May 23 2025 14:02 GMT
#1166
On May 23 2025 04:58 sharkie wrote:
Spurs are the most successful club in London this season. Thats a fact every person in London would agree with.


But everyone outside of London would disagree.
Winning EL is nice and all but none of the big Clubs of their respective leagues care too much.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18747 Posts
May 23 2025 20:10 GMT
#1167
Apparently Wirtz (who seemed to have given Bayern his go for a transfer) changed his mind to Liverpool. I have read that Wirtz family wasn't amused by Bayern's arrogance the past few weeks where they acted like Wirtz only has Bayern as a club to go to. Now they might have just lost the most precious gem of German football
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7406 Posts
May 23 2025 20:36 GMT
#1168
On May 24 2025 05:10 sharkie wrote:
Apparently Wirtz (who seemed to have given Bayern his go for a transfer) changed his mind to Liverpool. I have read that Wirtz family wasn't amused by Bayern's arrogance the past few weeks where they acted like Wirtz only has Bayern as a club to go to. Now they might have just lost the most precious gem of German football


That'd be awesome!
Under normal circumstances I'd have said City would be best suited but Pep does strange things these days so Liverpool seems like an awesome choice.
Real is loaded anyway and Bayern is the direct counter to Bayer the last two season and I guess he doesn't wanna have that on his conscience
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2110 Posts
May 23 2025 20:39 GMT
#1169
How do you set up Wirtz if he goes to Liverpool? I saw somebody suggesting him as a Firmino-style false 9. Does that make sense or do you just set him up as central attacking midfield and use MacAllister, Szobo and co as central midfielders?
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2666 Posts
May 23 2025 21:23 GMT
#1170
Wirtz is my fav player of the whole season in Germany, this guy is not only talented and very creative but works for the team too. Happy he doesnt want to go to Bayern!
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-23 22:03:46
May 23 2025 22:01 GMT
#1171
Bayern have been trying to sign Wirtz since before he even joined Leverkusen. Allegedly Hoeneß has been in regular contact with his family for over 5 years. To then have to watch the most talented German player reject them and leave the Bundesliga is a slap in the face and I wouldn't be surprised to see heads rolling over this in the not too distant future at Bayern (the wrong heads if I had to guess). They very likely let Thomas Müller go thinking they needed the budget for Wirtz.

At least one source I've seen has claimed Wirtz was more convinced by Slot's sporting project than what Bayern presented to him and that's why he decided for Liverpool.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27377 Posts
May 23 2025 22:16 GMT
#1172
Ba, Inter couldn’t do it, tbh I didn’t want us to win the league outright, I wanted the unlikely combination of results that would have lead to a one-off playoff shoutout for the league.

Awk well, another time! GGWP Napoli and their Scots! Lewis Ferguson lifting the Coppa Italia for Bologna this season as well.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27377 Posts
May 23 2025 22:28 GMT
#1173
On May 23 2025 05:23 sharkie wrote:
Not if you are #1 in net spend. The one who spends the most should also be the one who wins the most no? We are in the spot of we win the least

It depends on your baseline to begin with, and wages are frequently neglected in such discussions and they’re actually a better predictor of outcome than transfer spend anyway.

It took Klopp and Liverpool’s recruitment team time to build a side capable of challenging at the top. People forget sometimes that Pep was coming into a setup that had won multiple leagues and cups already.

I think you’re unduly harsh on Arteta and the board, they’re there or thereabouts.

The platform is there now, I think the question is now can they do it in the near future now that’s built? If not, then sure he may have run out of road.

I think they were reasonably well set-up this season, injuries derailed their Prem campaign, but they stepped up a level in Europe at the same time.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27377 Posts
May 23 2025 22:50 GMT
#1174
Wow I hadn’t realised until just now, Scott McTominey isn’t just beloved in Naples, he was awarded Serie A MVP

It’s being disingenuous to claim after the fact that people predicted he would be this good, but he wouldn’t be a good squad player? He’s the one you let go?

Conte’s playing him as that midfielder who makes late runs into the box and is a nuisance and a goal threat. Exactly how Scotland have in recent times and he’s excelled. Hell he’s filled in at centre back for the latter.

Tbf Ten Haag at times did play to his strengths as a player, with decent results
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27377 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-24 00:15:23
May 24 2025 00:15 GMT
#1175
Klopp 'turned off TV' after hearing Trent boos

Finally someone with real weight says it. Think it’s why most but the most myopic neutrals like Klopp
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8925 Posts
May 24 2025 05:43 GMT
#1176
On May 24 2025 07:50 WombaT wrote:
Wow I hadn’t realised until just now, Scott McTominey isn’t just beloved in Naples, he was awarded Serie A MVP

It’s being disingenuous to claim after the fact that people predicted he would be this good, but he wouldn’t be a good squad player? He’s the one you let go?

Conte’s playing him as that midfielder who makes late runs into the box and is a nuisance and a goal threat. Exactly how Scotland have in recent times and he’s excelled. Hell he’s filled in at centre back for the latter.

Tbf Ten Haag at times did play to his strengths as a player, with decent results

yeah mctominay was a bit of a head scratcher at united. good physicality, good energy, can carry the ball decently and has a good strike. in midfield he can do everything but pass unfortunately, and for some reason united used him as a dm or part of a double pivot for years. only ten hag allowed mctominay to go forward more but ultimately mctominays inclusion in midfield for us as a starter wasnt going to solve our problems. id have kept him though, because he does bring energy and passion which the team sorely lacks
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18747 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-24 08:00:06
May 24 2025 07:56 GMT
#1177
Mctominay is a great player before he joined napoli..i think most of us here knew it. He also scored vital goals for utd last season and then they sell a homegrown player for a bargain... But at least he did everything right

On May 24 2025 07:28 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2025 05:23 sharkie wrote:
Not if you are #1 in net spend. The one who spends the most should also be the one who wins the most no? We are in the spot of we win the least

It depends on your baseline to begin with, and wages are frequently neglected in such discussions and they’re actually a better predictor of outcome than transfer spend anyway.

It took Klopp and Liverpool’s recruitment team time to build a side capable of challenging at the top. People forget sometimes that Pep was coming into a setup that had won multiple leagues and cups already.

I think you’re unduly harsh on Arteta and the board, they’re there or thereabouts.

The platform is there now, I think the question is now can they do it in the near future now that’s built? If not, then sure he may have run out of road.

I think they were reasonably well set-up this season, injuries derailed their Prem campaign, but they stepped up a level in Europe at the same time.


I think Arsenal are very high in wages bill too... Definitely above Liverpool. I get that you guys think he will win something major. I am just so sure that he wont. Also lack of injuries are what gave arsenal last two seasons chances to be top2 and they failed twice to win it. So injuries this season are no excuse
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28894 Posts
May 24 2025 08:02 GMT
#1178
He has always impressed me for scotland but like efs said, united kept using him as a dm and that just isnt where he shines.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27377 Posts
May 24 2025 08:54 GMT
#1179
On May 24 2025 17:02 Liquid`Drone wrote:
He has always impressed me for scotland but like efs said, united kept using him as a dm and that just isnt where he shines.

He’s the new Fellaini. Not a subtle playmaker type but pretty good at arriving late in the box and as an aerial attacking threat. But pigeonholed as more of a defensive player than he actually is by some

I mean I don’t think he’d carry this United side to glory but he’s got some quality, he was super committed, versatile and it’s not like they got big money for selling him either
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18747 Posts
May 24 2025 12:57 GMT
#1180
I would actually compare him to Vidal more than to Fellaini, much better player
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