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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4436 Posts
June 30 2026 10:59 GMT
#2901
Netherlands kit was so bright that the tv at work struggled to focus on their players
Sucker for nostalgia
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-30 11:44:39
June 30 2026 11:38 GMT
#2902
On June 30 2026 18:06 gTank wrote:
Nagelsmann said he is there for the Euro as long as someone basically fires him ...
Was he always that delulu (at bayern e.g.) or is this new? Also he blamed Undav after the game in the interviews?!?!?! XD

He was like this since Hoffenheim. He's an arrogant know-it-all and blames everyone but himself, mostly the refs.

I think the decision to take back the goal was questionable by the ref regarding how other situations in the goalie zone were handled over the tourney. It was a very strict interpretation of the rule.
But with that team on paper you can't blame it on that decision. With 4-5 supposedly world class players it shouldn't go to overtime. Yeah they played deep and closed the center, who would have thought?
On June 30 2026 17:14 Harris1st wrote:
No emotions, no plan, no mentality.

Not much more to add.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-30 12:01:41
June 30 2026 11:58 GMT
#2903
On June 30 2026 18:06 gTank wrote:
Nagelsmann said he is there for the Euro as long as someone basically fires him ...
Was he always that delulu (at bayern e.g.) or is this new? Also he blamed Undav after the game in the interviews?!?!?! XD

He definitely hit new lows with the national squad. Still, as mentioned earlier, I think he was probably right about Undav/not starting him and instead using him as a super sub. Undav contributed next to nothing against Paraguay (of course he is not alone with that - Sane and Nmecha also had shockers, for example). But the Neuer farce was an unforced error.

Nagelsmann is a good coach but his man management is not elite.

Edit: Does not change that the decision to overturn the goal was a disgrace. Absolutely not in line with the way the game had been refereed up until it happened.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7410 Posts
June 30 2026 12:33 GMT
#2904
On June 30 2026 20:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2026 18:06 gTank wrote:
Nagelsmann said he is there for the Euro as long as someone basically fires him ...
Was he always that delulu (at bayern e.g.) or is this new? Also he blamed Undav after the game in the interviews?!?!?! XD

He definitely hit new lows with the national squad. Still, as mentioned earlier, I think he was probably right about Undav/not starting him and instead using him as a super sub. Undav contributed next to nothing against Paraguay (of course he is not alone with that - Sane and Nmecha also had shockers, for example). But the Neuer farce was an unforced error.

Nagelsmann is a good coach but his man management is not elite.

Edit: Does not change that the decision to overturn the goal was a disgrace. Absolutely not in line with the way the game had been refereed up until it happened.


I'm not sure if it was Henry or not, but someone basically said with this kind of referee, Arsenal would have been relegated xD

Nagelsmann is not a good coach. Plan A was questionable, Plan B or C was non-existent. Undav did barely get any support. No pass at all and the crosses were horrible. All Germany did was play side to side in slow motion then proceed to lose the ball under no pressure whatsoever. That is NOT good coaching.
And don't get me startet on his interviews and stuff. No wonder German media compared him to a stubborn toddler.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-30 13:53:07
June 30 2026 13:51 GMT
#2905
On June 30 2026 12:41 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I think there's truth to that the difference between the best and second best is smaller than it used to be, but I don't think we've seen an actual shift in the power balance, even though I've seen stuff like '9/10 teams from Africa advanced' cited as evidence. Morocco looks like a top team (they did four years ago as well), and Senegal and Ivory Coast look good - but no better than various African teams from different world cups since 1990.

Basically, what we see is a combination of two different factors - one, that a lot of teams are good enough defensively to get a draw against a superior side. In a bo1 knockout tournament, this is enough to pose a danger to most sides. Secondly, the format means a lot more of those teams advanced - and it gives us one more round of bo1 knockout, meaning we get more chances for upsets. With only top 2 advancing, we'd have five African teams in this stage, not 9,and no Ecuador or Paraguay. Only Egypt, Morocco and Ivory Coast would have say real shot at going far.

I've posted this before but - winning teams are almost always lucky. I've watched every wc since 1990 and I think Brazil in 2002 was clearly the best team in the tournament. France in 2018 managed to win without needing extra time or penalties (a rare occurrence), but easily could've lost in the ro16 against Argentina. Other than these two, there's always a game or two that could easily have flipped the other way.

However, this means that the best teams need to win a sequence of weighted flips, where they have between 75% and 50% chance to win each flip, while the 'bad' teams need to win several 25%s in a row. It's entirely possible for Colombia to reach the semi (they also have a very beneficial draw), but they aren't going to face Paraguay when they get there. Maybe we're looking at a change in the sense that mid-tier teams have increased their win chance from 15-20% to 25-30%, but I'm still fairly confident our final top 4 will have at least three from the 'traditional contenders' - France, Spain, Argentina, Brazil, England, Portugal. Morocco (or nld, typing this right as penalties are about to start), Colombia or even US, or Norway () have a fighter's chance. But most likely we're not getting a debutant finalist this year either.


2002 I don't disagree with your assessment that Brazil was the best team. However, I want to add two things. First the disallowed goal from Belgium in their Ro16 match against Brazil. Most observers agreed back then that this was a clear goal and should have stood. It was 36th minute, so plenty of time to fight back. But based on your argument, their title also had a very lucky moment.
Second comment regarding 2002 has nothing to do with your argument, but that World Cup sucked. The level of play was horrific. Brazil in my memory also wasn't very impressive that year. Germany was terrible that WC and had a 50:50 chance in the finals, up until the Kahn moment.

"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4019 Posts
June 30 2026 16:43 GMT
#2906
I think it's also the game evolving. Skill used to be more important than it is now. In the past, kids would be selected by skill much more, while now, the biggest, fastest and strongest players are the most useful and you can always teach them some level of skill. A player like Brobbey is like Barracks the terran player. Pure physicality, with some level of touch and smarts added in later. Look at all the rosters and the majority of players is on the left of the Brobbey - Messi scale I just invented. Often a team will only have 1-2 skill outliers.

And fielding 11 strong, fast, powerful guys that have been drilled tactically gets you a long way. Countries like Bosnia and Switzerland have always been like this a bit, but nowadays African countries can do it too, since they no longer have guys that are trying to build their highlight reel in order to earn a transfer. Ecuador has shown in qualifiers how well it works too.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
June 30 2026 17:22 GMT
#2907
On June 30 2026 18:06 gTank wrote:
Nagelsmann said he is there for the Euro as long as someone basically fires him ...
Was he always that delulu (at bayern e.g.) or is this new? Also he blamed Undav after the game in the interviews?!?!?! XD


Yeah Nagelsmann singling out Undav after Germany was eliminated was another low point in this farce of a manager...
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10566 Posts
June 30 2026 20:53 GMT
#2908
Never felt so high after Japan scored that first goal, then never felt so low after watching the final ball get passed in between the defenders and slotted home. Part of my soul got ripped out in that stadium yesterday. Difficult to play against Brazil when they finally remember it's a team game and don't just stand around playing pass it between your center backs. Too much quality for Japan and every cross looked dangerous.

Also lol. Germany and Netherlands out in round one already.
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
2007 Posts
June 30 2026 21:46 GMT
#2909
If Sweden goes through, it will be the biggest robbery of the tournament! Weird misses from France.

Edit: and there was the goal. Should have been 3 in the first half alone.
Buff the siegetank
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28896 Posts
June 30 2026 21:56 GMT
#2910
France looks fantastic going forward. Not rock solid defensively but their attacking power is unrivaled. I hope they get to the finals at least- definitely the most entertaining team in the wc to me.


Also Norway is in a state of collective euphoria. If we beat Brazil, I'm guessing April 5th 2027 is gonna be a popular birthday. That Nusa goal..
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10566 Posts
July 01 2026 04:05 GMT
#2911
On July 01 2026 06:56 Liquid`Drone wrote:
France looks fantastic going forward. Not rock solid defensively but their attacking power is unrivaled. I hope they get to the finals at least- definitely the most entertaining team in the wc to me.


Also Norway is in a state of collective euphoria. If we beat Brazil, I'm guessing April 5th 2027 is gonna be a popular birthday. That Nusa goal..

A starting 4 of Mbappe, Dembele, Doue/Barcola, and Olise is just absurd to have. Their firepower is simply unmatched. Then you have Doue/Barcola and Cherki off the bench as well. Even guys like Mateta and Thuram are serviceable.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
July 01 2026 08:19 GMT
#2912
France's offensive power is just insane!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7410 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-01 11:14:07
July 01 2026 11:13 GMT
#2913
On July 01 2026 06:56 Liquid`Drone wrote:
France looks fantastic going forward. Not rock solid defensively but their attacking power is unrivaled. I hope they get to the finals at least- definitely the most entertaining team in the wc to me.


Also Norway is in a state of collective euphoria. If we beat Brazil, I'm guessing April 5th 2027 is gonna be a popular birthday. That Nusa goal..


Edit: nvm
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2112 Posts
July 01 2026 11:39 GMT
#2914
The best bits I saw on the Norway game looked really good. The most impressive thingy for me was how versatile the attacks were. The set pieces looked dangerous, then there's the individual Nusa magic and then there were some very nice looking movement combinations like the 2nd goal.

Also a lot of more quiet spells over the 90 minutes, but I don't think it's easy to completely shut them down as long as so many players keep contributing so nicely.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 01 2026 15:23 GMT
#2915
All the talk today is Forest apparently trying to replace Pereira with Glasner.
Pereira apparently refused a contract extension.

I can't understand it, we looked really good at the end of last season.
RIP Meatloaf <3
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
July 01 2026 15:34 GMT
#2916
Why would Glasner go to Forest?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-01 15:54:15
July 01 2026 15:48 GMT
#2917
On July 02 2026 00:34 sharkie wrote:
Why would Glasner go to Forest?

Absolutely no idea, but the Telegraph are talking about it like a done deal.

I suppose the £116m we're getting from Anderson might be a factor if we've promised Glasner he can use it for whatever signings he wants.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7410 Posts
July 01 2026 15:56 GMT
#2918
Bild.de says Kloppo to follow Nagelsmann is a done deal. Only a numbers game now
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
July 01 2026 16:05 GMT
#2919
If Klopp becomes Germany coach (and gets good results) - this is something that could boost the whole country (Germany's "happiness" is at an all time low imo...)
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27405 Posts
July 01 2026 17:09 GMT
#2920
I thought the refs were all conspiring to give the big calls to the ‘big nations’?

That’s a penalty for me all day long
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