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On July 12 2021 06:21 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2021 06:12 Ghostcom wrote:On July 12 2021 06:07 WombaT wrote:On July 12 2021 05:53 gTank wrote:On July 12 2021 05:52 WombaT wrote:On July 12 2021 05:41 Salazarz wrote:On July 12 2021 05:37 gTank wrote:On July 12 2021 05:35 Salazarz wrote:On July 12 2021 05:30 gTank wrote:
The stats make Italy far superior to England now. As much as I'd like to make some funny comments about that, in a game like this stats mean even less than usual. With a goal 2 minutes in, it's pretty expected the leading team would sit deep in defense and have much less possession / shots. Yeah normally but in the game Denmark vs England people here were saying theses stats matter so much. Sure, but those people were told the same thing -- stats don't mean shit. Just because delusional England fans think higher possession means you 'deserve' a free penalty and a win doesn't make it true. Who says that though? Well ok I’m sure plenty of people have. Wasn’t a penalty but on balance England were better than Denmark that night You know how to to tell which team is better? Goals ... England didnt score except that huge gift by UEFA referees. What are you talking about? I don’t think it was a penalty, I’d prefer if it hadn’t of been awarded. I’ve said that on this thread, others have said this on this thread. Were England better than Denmark on the night? Yes they were, Denmark looked absolutely shattered in extra time and England’s squad depth let them sub a player of the quality of Grealish on and off. Maybe without that Denmark take it to penalties and win, and fair enough, as I said I don’t think it was a penalty. But were they the better team on the night and were robbed? Well no not really. Except for some reason in this thread the framing is ‘England fans don’t give a fuck about a dodgy penalty’ despite evidence very much to the contrary. Intriguing period of extra time inc Maybe because Pandemona literally argued that the English deserved the penalty because predictive statistics said they should have more goals. But frankly, the semi is over. The final is entertaining- especially in extra time where both sides seem to play to win. Did he? Even Pande who is by far the most biased English supporter here (no offence meant) said England deserved the win despite the dodgy penalty, not that it was a particularly deserved award. Man so pumped for more of this!
Pande was never even close to admitting that the penalty was dodgy. In fact he repeatedly argue that it should always be a penalty.
But seriously, let us leave it be and enjoy this game instead.
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On July 12 2021 06:21 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2021 06:12 Ghostcom wrote:On July 12 2021 06:07 WombaT wrote:On July 12 2021 05:53 gTank wrote:On July 12 2021 05:52 WombaT wrote:On July 12 2021 05:41 Salazarz wrote:On July 12 2021 05:37 gTank wrote:On July 12 2021 05:35 Salazarz wrote:On July 12 2021 05:30 gTank wrote:
The stats make Italy far superior to England now. As much as I'd like to make some funny comments about that, in a game like this stats mean even less than usual. With a goal 2 minutes in, it's pretty expected the leading team would sit deep in defense and have much less possession / shots. Yeah normally but in the game Denmark vs England people here were saying theses stats matter so much. Sure, but those people were told the same thing -- stats don't mean shit. Just because delusional England fans think higher possession means you 'deserve' a free penalty and a win doesn't make it true. Who says that though? Well ok I’m sure plenty of people have. Wasn’t a penalty but on balance England were better than Denmark that night You know how to to tell which team is better? Goals ... England didnt score except that huge gift by UEFA referees. What are you talking about? I don’t think it was a penalty, I’d prefer if it hadn’t of been awarded. I’ve said that on this thread, others have said this on this thread. Were England better than Denmark on the night? Yes they were, Denmark looked absolutely shattered in extra time and England’s squad depth let them sub a player of the quality of Grealish on and off. Maybe without that Denmark take it to penalties and win, and fair enough, as I said I don’t think it was a penalty. But were they the better team on the night and were robbed? Well no not really. Except for some reason in this thread the framing is ‘England fans don’t give a fuck about a dodgy penalty’ despite evidence very much to the contrary. Intriguing period of extra time inc Maybe because Pandemona literally argued that the English deserved the penalty because predictive statistics said they should have more goals. But frankly, the semi is over. The final is entertaining- especially in extra time where both sides seem to play to win. Did he? Even Pande who is by far the most biased English supporter here (no offence meant) said England deserved the win despite the dodgy penalty, not that it was a particularly deserved award. Man so pumped for more of this!
Way off of what he actually said but ok XD
Nothing reasonable from him except whataboutisms and saying it was a pen lol.
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On July 12 2021 06:21 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2021 06:12 Ghostcom wrote:On July 12 2021 06:07 WombaT wrote:On July 12 2021 05:53 gTank wrote:On July 12 2021 05:52 WombaT wrote:On July 12 2021 05:41 Salazarz wrote:On July 12 2021 05:37 gTank wrote:On July 12 2021 05:35 Salazarz wrote:On July 12 2021 05:30 gTank wrote:
The stats make Italy far superior to England now. As much as I'd like to make some funny comments about that, in a game like this stats mean even less than usual. With a goal 2 minutes in, it's pretty expected the leading team would sit deep in defense and have much less possession / shots. Yeah normally but in the game Denmark vs England people here were saying theses stats matter so much. Sure, but those people were told the same thing -- stats don't mean shit. Just because delusional England fans think higher possession means you 'deserve' a free penalty and a win doesn't make it true. Who says that though? Well ok I’m sure plenty of people have. Wasn’t a penalty but on balance England were better than Denmark that night You know how to to tell which team is better? Goals ... England didnt score except that huge gift by UEFA referees. What are you talking about? I don’t think it was a penalty, I’d prefer if it hadn’t of been awarded. I’ve said that on this thread, others have said this on this thread. Were England better than Denmark on the night? Yes they were, Denmark looked absolutely shattered in extra time and England’s squad depth let them sub a player of the quality of Grealish on and off. Maybe without that Denmark take it to penalties and win, and fair enough, as I said I don’t think it was a penalty. But were they the better team on the night and were robbed? Well no not really. Except for some reason in this thread the framing is ‘England fans don’t give a fuck about a dodgy penalty’ despite evidence very much to the contrary. Intriguing period of extra time inc Maybe because Pandemona literally argued that the English deserved the penalty because predictive statistics said they should have more goals. But frankly, the semi is over. The final is entertaining- especially in extra time where both sides seem to play to win. Did he? Even Pande who is by far the most biased English supporter here (no offence meant) said England deserved the win despite the dodgy penalty, not that it was a particularly deserved award. Man so pumped for more of this!
Think his argument was that nobody should complain about the penalty because given the game situation at that point, England would have scored anyway. But arguing with Pande about Chelsea or Engerland are a totally lost cause. Nobody should ever take his arguments seriously when they are about one of these topics :p
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United States44384 Posts
That was a great shot and an equally good save.
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
Watching in the pub over here is an interesting experience, 50% hardcore want England to win, 50% hardcore want England to lose
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Pedal to the metal still, awesome to see that both teams are still chasing the win rather than setting up for penalties.
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Its better than most OTs so far.
Still dont think it should go to pens, they always feel like a gamble.
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United States44384 Posts
Very tense last few minutes. Neither team wants to let this go to penalties.
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On July 12 2021 06:26 gTank wrote:
Its better than most OTs so far.
Still dont think it should go to pens, they always feel like a gamble.
Infinite overtimes but now with baby bumpers on every player except goalie :D
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Most fascinating moment of the tourney right there. Sterling in the box, and actually staying on his feet :O
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Honestly, I hate pens in finals for one simple reason: A deciding goal makes a player a hero. But in pens, usually it is all about some poor dude becoming the national loser.
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On July 12 2021 06:28 mahrgell wrote:
Honestly, I hate pens in finals for one simple reason: A deciding goal makes a player a hero. But in pens, usually it is all about some poor dude becoming the national loser.
Yeah  poor Morata for example.
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On July 12 2021 06:28 mahrgell wrote:
Honestly, I hate pens in finals for one simple reason: A deciding goal makes a player a hero. But in pens, usually it is all about some poor dude becoming the national loser.
Like Morata
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So studs first, both feet off the ground?
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United States44384 Posts
England outrunning Italy in these final minutes. Not losing possession in 5 minutes of play.
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On July 12 2021 06:31 KwarK wrote:
England outrunning Italy in these final minutes. Not losing possession in 5 minutes of play.
Well, they have the much better bench...
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On July 12 2021 06:30 Oukka wrote:
So studs first, both feet off the ground?
Should be red there. He needs to thank the stars that Kuipers is too afraid to show the color he deserves in overtime of a finals.
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Sometimes when Donnarumma goes out to get the ball it seems he was determined to go even before the ball was in the air. All or nothing.
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On July 12 2021 06:32 Acrofales wrote:Should be red there. He needs to thank the stars that Kuipers is too afraid to show the color he deserves in overtime of a finals.
German expert/ref said yellow is correct since he clearly went for the ball and also played it. Dunno.
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On July 12 2021 06:34 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2021 06:32 Acrofales wrote:On July 12 2021 06:30 Oukka wrote:
So studs first, both feet off the ground? Should be red there. He needs to thank the stars that Kuipers is too afraid to show the color he deserves in overtime of a finals. German expert/ref said yellow is correct since he clearly went for the ball and also played it. Dunno.
Austrian "expert" too but that guy is a total idiot in my eyes XD not for this right now but in general.
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