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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43104 Posts
July 11 2021 21:08 GMT
#4961
The anti England hysteria in this thread is getting a little out of hand. Cheering for neck tackles etc.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 11 2021 21:08 GMT
#4962
I will say I did enjoy this game more than the Copa final so far because the ball was allowed to be in motion for longer than 60 seconds without a foul
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Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
July 11 2021 21:09 GMT
#4963
On July 12 2021 06:03 mahrgell wrote:
Btw, Pen games so far this Euro:

France lost to Switzerland in Ro16
Switzerland lost to Spain in quarter finals
Spain lost to Italy in Semis

Italy should avoid pens at all costs... :D

But penalty and England....

Wich curse is worse?
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25841 Posts
July 11 2021 21:09 GMT
#4964
On July 12 2021 06:05 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2021 06:04 WombaT wrote:
On July 12 2021 06:02 deacon.frost wrote:
Who would have thought that being 90 minutes behind the ball is a bad strategy

Did you watch the first half or?


Probably not, but the salty boys are in full force here... I will welcome the Euros being over just for the sake of sanity in this thread.

As a slightly England leaning neutral who loves Italian football England were great in the first half, to an astonishing degree and Italy asserted themselves in the second.

Extra time should be super fascinating
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 11 2021 21:09 GMT
#4965
On July 12 2021 06:08 KwarK wrote:
The anti England hysteria in this thread is getting a little out of hand. Cheering for neck tackles etc.

Can you give an example of cheering for such things?

On July 12 2021 06:04 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2021 06:02 deacon.frost wrote:
Who would have thought that being 90 minutes behind the ball is a bad strategy

Did you watch the first half or?

I did and they were defending more and more.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
July 11 2021 21:10 GMT
#4966
On July 12 2021 06:08 KwarK wrote:
The anti England hysteria in this thread is getting a little out of hand. Cheering for neck tackles etc.


Who cheered? Everyone remarked how unusual and dumb it was.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
July 11 2021 21:10 GMT
#4967
On July 12 2021 06:08 KwarK wrote:
The anti England hysteria in this thread is getting a little out of hand. Cheering for neck tackles etc.


You might be in a another thread by chance? Where did people cheer for neck tackles?
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43104 Posts
July 11 2021 21:11 GMT
#4968
On July 12 2021 06:09 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2021 06:08 KwarK wrote:
The anti England hysteria in this thread is getting a little out of hand. Cheering for neck tackles etc.

Can you give an example of cheering for such things?

On July 12 2021 05:57 deacon.frost wrote:
Emergency hand break xD

Is xD how you express your disapproval of dangerous fouls against players?
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
July 11 2021 21:12 GMT
#4969
On July 12 2021 06:07 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2021 05:53 gTank wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:52 WombaT wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:41 Salazarz wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:37 gTank wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:35 Salazarz wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:30 gTank wrote:
The stats make Italy far superior to England now.


As much as I'd like to make some funny comments about that, in a game like this stats mean even less than usual. With a goal 2 minutes in, it's pretty expected the leading team would sit deep in defense and have much less possession / shots.


Yeah normally but in the game Denmark vs England people here were saying theses stats matter so much.


Sure, but those people were told the same thing -- stats don't mean shit. Just because delusional England fans think higher possession means you 'deserve' a free penalty and a win doesn't make it true.

Who says that though? Well ok I’m sure plenty of people have.

Wasn’t a penalty but on balance England were better than Denmark that night


You know how to to tell which team is better? Goals ... England didnt score except that huge gift by UEFA referees.

What are you talking about?

I don’t think it was a penalty, I’d prefer if it hadn’t of been awarded. I’ve said that on this thread, others have said this on this thread.

Were England better than Denmark on the night? Yes they were, Denmark looked absolutely shattered in extra time and England’s squad depth let them sub a player of the quality of Grealish on and off.

Maybe without that Denmark take it to penalties and win, and fair enough, as I said I don’t think it was a penalty. But were they the better team on the night and were robbed? Well no not really.

Except for some reason in this thread the framing is ‘England fans don’t give a fuck about a dodgy penalty’ despite evidence very much to the contrary.

Intriguing period of extra time inc


Maybe because Pandemona literally argued that the English deserved the penalty because predictive statistics said they should have more goals.

But frankly, the semi is over. The final is entertaining- especially in extra time where both sides seem to play to win.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
July 11 2021 21:13 GMT
#4970
On July 12 2021 06:12 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2021 06:07 WombaT wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:53 gTank wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:52 WombaT wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:41 Salazarz wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:37 gTank wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:35 Salazarz wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:30 gTank wrote:
The stats make Italy far superior to England now.


As much as I'd like to make some funny comments about that, in a game like this stats mean even less than usual. With a goal 2 minutes in, it's pretty expected the leading team would sit deep in defense and have much less possession / shots.


Yeah normally but in the game Denmark vs England people here were saying theses stats matter so much.


Sure, but those people were told the same thing -- stats don't mean shit. Just because delusional England fans think higher possession means you 'deserve' a free penalty and a win doesn't make it true.

Who says that though? Well ok I’m sure plenty of people have.

Wasn’t a penalty but on balance England were better than Denmark that night


You know how to to tell which team is better? Goals ... England didnt score except that huge gift by UEFA referees.

What are you talking about?

I don’t think it was a penalty, I’d prefer if it hadn’t of been awarded. I’ve said that on this thread, others have said this on this thread.

Were England better than Denmark on the night? Yes they were, Denmark looked absolutely shattered in extra time and England’s squad depth let them sub a player of the quality of Grealish on and off.

Maybe without that Denmark take it to penalties and win, and fair enough, as I said I don’t think it was a penalty. But were they the better team on the night and were robbed? Well no not really.

Except for some reason in this thread the framing is ‘England fans don’t give a fuck about a dodgy penalty’ despite evidence very much to the contrary.

Intriguing period of extra time inc


Maybe because Pandemona literally argued that the English deserved the penalty because predictive statistics said they should have more goals.

But frankly, the semi is over. The final is entertaining- especially in extra time where both sides seem to play to win.


This but yeah whatever. Stopped reasoning with it already.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
July 11 2021 21:13 GMT
#4971
On July 12 2021 06:09 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2021 06:03 mahrgell wrote:
Btw, Pen games so far this Euro:

France lost to Switzerland in Ro16
Switzerland lost to Spain in quarter finals
Spain lost to Italy in Semis

Italy should avoid pens at all costs... :D

But penalty and England....

Wich curse is worse?


They won their last pen shootout vs Columbia during WC2018 So I think they are fine.

And in general, their resistance to choking in all those games is what really surprised me with England. And cmon, losing to struggling Germany would have been fitting history. And them getting eliminated by some of the more surprising knockout opponents would have been fitting too... Yet they really just didn't do the typical England choke...
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18082 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-11 21:21:17
July 11 2021 21:14 GMT
#4972
On July 12 2021 06:08 KwarK wrote:
The anti England hysteria in this thread is getting a little out of hand. Cheering for neck tackles etc.

I wouldn't say I was cheering for it. It was an impressive wrestling move, but it was obviously a deserved yellow.

I'm not anti England. I'm anti Sterling, and anti English hooligans. But I have no love for Italian football in general. I'm pretty neutral and just enjoying the match.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 11 2021 21:14 GMT
#4973
On July 12 2021 06:11 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2021 06:09 deacon.frost wrote:
On July 12 2021 06:08 KwarK wrote:
The anti England hysteria in this thread is getting a little out of hand. Cheering for neck tackles etc.

Can you give an example of cheering for such things?

Show nested quote +
On July 12 2021 05:57 deacon.frost wrote:
Emergency hand break xD

Is xD how you express your disapproval of dangerous fouls against players?

This is me laughing at how dumb it looked. Thank you for your analysis which was completely wrong.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
July 11 2021 21:17 GMT
#4974
Love the Danish commentators Calling Pickford and very utraditionel goalkeeper for making save with his back.
GO OG
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
July 11 2021 21:18 GMT
#4975
On July 12 2021 06:17 Sapaio wrote:
Love the Danish commentators Calling Pickford and very utraditionel goalkeeper for making save with his back.

It's his fist no? He did an uppercut on that ball ^^
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
July 11 2021 21:18 GMT
#4976
On July 12 2021 06:18 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2021 06:17 Sapaio wrote:
Love the Danish commentators Calling Pickford and very utraditionel goalkeeper for making save with his back.

It's his fist no? He did an uppercut on that ball ^^


Yeah but as a goalkeeper, you usually dont turn away from a shot at the goal ^^
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
July 11 2021 21:19 GMT
#4977
On July 12 2021 06:17 Sapaio wrote:
Love the Danish commentators Calling Pickford and very utraditionel goalkeeper for making save with his back.


Germans did so too. We have Sandro Wagner as co-commentator, who was kinda considered a dumb loud mouth during his active career... But I have to say I'm really intrigued by this commentating, it is really good and insightful. (and way smarter than I had given him credit for)
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18082 Posts
July 11 2021 21:20 GMT
#4978
First 15 minutes of extra time was very entertaining. Hope the remaining 15 keep it up and neither team wants penalties.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25841 Posts
July 11 2021 21:21 GMT
#4979
On July 12 2021 06:12 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2021 06:07 WombaT wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:53 gTank wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:52 WombaT wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:41 Salazarz wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:37 gTank wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:35 Salazarz wrote:
On July 12 2021 05:30 gTank wrote:
The stats make Italy far superior to England now.


As much as I'd like to make some funny comments about that, in a game like this stats mean even less than usual. With a goal 2 minutes in, it's pretty expected the leading team would sit deep in defense and have much less possession / shots.


Yeah normally but in the game Denmark vs England people here were saying theses stats matter so much.


Sure, but those people were told the same thing -- stats don't mean shit. Just because delusional England fans think higher possession means you 'deserve' a free penalty and a win doesn't make it true.

Who says that though? Well ok I’m sure plenty of people have.

Wasn’t a penalty but on balance England were better than Denmark that night


You know how to to tell which team is better? Goals ... England didnt score except that huge gift by UEFA referees.

What are you talking about?

I don’t think it was a penalty, I’d prefer if it hadn’t of been awarded. I’ve said that on this thread, others have said this on this thread.

Were England better than Denmark on the night? Yes they were, Denmark looked absolutely shattered in extra time and England’s squad depth let them sub a player of the quality of Grealish on and off.

Maybe without that Denmark take it to penalties and win, and fair enough, as I said I don’t think it was a penalty. But were they the better team on the night and were robbed? Well no not really.

Except for some reason in this thread the framing is ‘England fans don’t give a fuck about a dodgy penalty’ despite evidence very much to the contrary.

Intriguing period of extra time inc


Maybe because Pandemona literally argued that the English deserved the penalty because predictive statistics said they should have more goals.

But frankly, the semi is over. The final is entertaining- especially in extra time where both sides seem to play to win.

Did he? Even Pande who is by far the most biased English supporter here (no offence meant) said England deserved the win despite the dodgy penalty, not that it was a particularly deserved award.

Man so pumped for more of this!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-11 21:22:07
July 11 2021 21:21 GMT
#4980
On July 12 2021 06:19 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2021 06:17 Sapaio wrote:
Love the Danish commentators Calling Pickford and very utraditionel goalkeeper for making save with his back.


Germans did so too. We have Sandro Wagner as co-commentator, who was kinda considered a dumb loud mouth during his active career... But I have to say I'm really intrigued by this commentating, it is really good and insightful. (and way smarter than I had given him credit for)

Absolutely. I always thought Wagner was one of the biggest idiots of german football but he has been doing this for a while now and it has been a very positive suprise for me so far.
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