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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-27 15:16:31
September 27 2020 15:14 GMT
#201
Bayern absolutely appalling today. Squad very thin, Flick lacking options to really make changes with games every 3 days and all, but this is just a shite performance. It's only 3-1 but if Hoffenheim were any better at converting chances it'd be 6-1.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 27 2020 15:23 GMT
#202
Super Bayern losing and Dortmund losing this week fun.

Also the handball rule might be shit, but so was "offside" last year when var got involved with in it. This handball rule is just what its gonna be, i mean for me both these guys arms are not in natural positions for me at all, Dier is falling down normally and arms flailing in the air? Then the palace defender Ward looks like his hand pushes out, the line has to be drawn somewhere.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18626 Posts
September 27 2020 15:35 GMT
#203
holy shit that mahrez goal
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
September 27 2020 15:38 GMT
#204
On September 28 2020 00:23 Pandemona wrote:
Super Bayern losing and Dortmund losing this week fun.

They will meet on Wednesday in the German super cup. A game that truly nobody on either team actually needed especially at this point.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2726 Posts
September 27 2020 15:51 GMT
#205
I still can't believe that Barcelona gave Suarez free to Atletico, a direct rival. What a board the club have.

After watching the whole Atleti match, Joao Feliz was spectacular today.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
September 27 2020 16:07 GMT
#206
Barca seem extraordinarily desperate ever since the Messi debacle.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4399 Posts
September 27 2020 16:39 GMT
#207
Dier literally has his back to the ball and it falls on him while he's not looking, that penalty decision is utterly insane.
Sucker for nostalgia
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18626 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-27 17:16:07
September 27 2020 16:41 GMT
#208
On September 28 2020 01:39 DropBear wrote:
Dier literally has his back to the ball and it falls on him while he's not looking, that penalty decision is utterly insane.


what does it matter if he is looking or not? Do you need to have eyes at the back to move them behind?

well who did not expect city to implode if they dont sign a good defender?

city vs leiceister has two beautiful goals by mahrez and maddison

3/4 defenders of city create a penalty haha
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-27 18:05:22
September 27 2020 18:05 GMT
#209
Pep things happened again, plays Garcia over Laporte and they give away 3 clear pens on their way to a 5-2 humiliation at home to Leicester. Ouch

Liverpool beat Arsenal monday and thats that for title probs lol
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2726 Posts
September 27 2020 18:20 GMT
#210
Today results have been crazy. Bayern 4-1 MCity 2-5 and Atletico scoring 6 goals, lol.
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-28 01:44:34
September 27 2020 22:08 GMT
#211
On September 28 2020 03:05 Pandemona wrote:
Pep things happened again, plays Garcia over Laporte and they give away 3 clear pens on their way to a 5-2 humiliation at home to Leicester. Ouch

Liverpool beat Arsenal monday and thats that for title probs lol


That's a bit overdramatic I'd say, but having what seems to be the only solid defense in the league does help.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 28 2020 02:59 GMT
#212
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8846 Posts
September 28 2020 03:53 GMT
#213
wow at city getting stomped
and also i agree with people saying the current handball rules are stupid as fuck.
if i was playing as a forward i would make it my mission to hit defenders arms rather than actually try to shoot for goal. probably have a better shots/goal ratio if i convert all those arm hits to penalties anyway
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
September 28 2020 04:40 GMT
#214
I went to bed with City 1:0 up and looking in control. That did not continue for long.

Yeah Roy Hodgson said that the Hand ball rule should just be 'If someone deliberately uses their hand to gain an advantage it's hand ball. If the ball just hits them with no intention it's not' End of. That seems so much simpler than all this bollocks we have about silhouettes and natural body positions. Also how fucking old is he now?..... 73 says Google.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18626 Posts
September 28 2020 07:15 GMT
#215
On September 28 2020 13:40 Greg_J wrote:
I went to bed with City 1:0 up and looking in control. That did not continue for long.

Yeah Roy Hodgson said that the Hand ball rule should just be 'If someone deliberately uses their hand to gain an advantage it's hand ball. If the ball just hits them with no intention it's not' End of. That seems so much simpler than all this bollocks we have about silhouettes and natural body positions. Also how fucking old is he now?..... 73 says Google.


And how do you ever know if someone uses their hand deliberately? You never know and thats the problem
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18262 Posts
September 28 2020 07:52 GMT
#216
On September 28 2020 13:40 Greg_J wrote:
I went to bed with City 1:0 up and looking in control. That did not continue for long.

Yeah Roy Hodgson said that the Hand ball rule should just be 'If someone deliberately uses their hand to gain an advantage it's hand ball. If the ball just hits them with no intention it's not' End of. That seems so much simpler than all this bollocks we have about silhouettes and natural body positions. Also how fucking old is he now?..... 73 says Google.

The whole problem stems from a referee not being able to judge intent. I mean, sometimes it's super obvious, but the problems will always occur when it isn't. So the new rule simply removes the need to judge whether a handball is intentional or not. I do agree it leads to really stupid penalties and puts an undue burden on defenders.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7145 Posts
September 28 2020 08:05 GMT
#217
On September 28 2020 00:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Mourinho is going go berserk.



First one is a pretty clear one IMO. There is a reason good defenders have their arms behind their backs whenever possible.

Second one is absolutely not a penalty. super short distance, no intent and flailing a bit while midair is pretty natural
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8846 Posts
September 28 2020 08:16 GMT
#218
i dont think its a big ask to have refs try and judge whether the defender was careless and should have done better or the handball was simply unavoidable (like diers case).
refs have been making these decisions for decades and var was supposed to be brought into assist with judgment calls. if you dont trust the 1st ref to make these calls then they shouldnt be refs in the first place. and if youre gonna make var make every difficult call and leave nothing to the judgment of referees, why have referees on the pitch at all?
seems like common sense has gone out the window with the implementation of these things. though to be fair i think common sense itself is a rarity in todays society
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2037 Posts
September 28 2020 08:25 GMT
#219
I probably wouldn't have given either of those. I think there's usually a decisive moment where a defender goes 'Yup, I'm going to block that' and commits. At that point they really should be tucking in and taking extra care that their arms aren't making them bigger.

Meanwhile an open header is really hard to predict and in the first case the defender isn't really committed to any kind of blocking attempt. As long as he doesn't actively make things worse with reaction, I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt there.

The second one is a pretty clear no-call for me. He's being pushed from the back midair and mostly concerned about his balance.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28785 Posts
September 28 2020 08:32 GMT
#220
I think this is just another example of people not accepting that some referee decisions have to be arbitrary, so they try to define the ruleset in a way where the arbitrariness is lost, but through doing that, the rule itself becomes stupid.
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