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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
August 17 2019 18:25 GMT
#581
ahaha tuned in at 90 just for this drama
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
August 17 2019 18:25 GMT
#582
hahaha VAR :D

lolz

City deserves to win and they're the best team in the league but I also do hope they fail.
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 17 2019 18:26 GMT
#583
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
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Last Edited: 2019-08-17 18:27:39
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 17 2019 18:28 GMT
#585
"This var is shit, 2 times, thats 2 times, var is shit" - Gabriel Jesus XD

Haha
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18722 Posts
August 17 2019 18:29 GMT
#586
VAR is the best :D
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
August 17 2019 18:33 GMT
#587
The best part was Pep and Aguero making up before they knew the goal had been disallowed!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 17 2019 18:33 GMT
#588
It is defo not the best, Rodri arguably could/should have had a penalty in the first half and the Chelsea vs Liverpool game also showed flaws in the VAR system.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
August 17 2019 18:40 GMT
#589
VAR decreases the amount of wrong decisions significantly, but it does not remove it completely. Huge net gain though.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18722 Posts
August 17 2019 18:42 GMT
#590
On August 18 2019 03:33 Pandemona wrote:
It is defo not the best, Rodri arguably could/should have had a penalty in the first half and the Chelsea vs Liverpool game also showed flaws in the VAR system.


Its definitely the best
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9958 Posts
August 17 2019 18:43 GMT
#591
Well that sucked ass.
What is it about Spurs and their ridiculous luck against City?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 17 2019 19:43 GMT
#592
On August 18 2019 03:40 Liquid`Drone wrote:
VAR decreases the amount of wrong decisions significantly, but it does not remove it completely. Huge net gain though.

There's bound to be errors (some bc people checking videos are still human, others because of more questionable situations)

But as a whole it has been terrific, and it should be getting better
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-17 19:50:29
August 17 2019 19:49 GMT
#593
The rules are also the problem, handballs given and some not given. Champs league final liverpool get pen, super cup final liverpool do not get a pen. Adrian is off his line on final pen save in super cup final, missed. Abraham goes down to the smallest of touches and due to no definite angle, var can't interfere, yet their are broadcasters around the world with the angles they need to be seeing.

It has helped ofc, but it is not the best system at all, far from it. Premier League officials doing ours for example said they would never call the Liverpool champs league final penalty a penalty in this country....So its biggest flaw, is the rules themselves, they are not black and white, they are grey and grey area = mixed decisions.
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
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August 17 2019 23:01 GMT
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4371 Posts
August 18 2019 09:03 GMT
#595
I second Pande.

With more than a year of VAR experience around here and with a better protocol than you seem to have in england, VAR is helpful in countries with bad referees (like around here in Portugal because they save a lot of mess from happening, when not involving certain clubs, but that is a cultural problem).

However, in the BPL, referees actually get their shit right to what is possible for the human eye to catch. Now you are forcing them to judge ridic situations (like city goal) that may not be seen in the same way by all thus giving different decisions.

Killing goal celebrations is not good for football because the excitment of a goal will be very diminished. In england there was no complaining or people discussing referees because any potential mistake would balance through the season. Now you will start discussing shit outsider of football, not good.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18722 Posts
August 18 2019 09:47 GMT
#596
On August 18 2019 18:03 KobraKay wrote:
I second Pande.

With more than a year of VAR experience around here and with a better protocol than you seem to have in england, VAR is helpful in countries with bad referees (like around here in Portugal because they save a lot of mess from happening, when not involving certain clubs, but that is a cultural problem).

However, in the BPL, referees actually get their shit right to what is possible for the human eye to catch. Now you are forcing them to judge ridic situations (like city goal) that may not be seen in the same way by all thus giving different decisions.

Killing goal celebrations is not good for football because the excitment of a goal will be very diminished. In england there was no complaining or people discussing referees because any potential mistake would balance through the season. Now you will start discussing shit outsider of football, not good.


I think you must have missed the past 2-3 seasons of premier league completely. The BPL has masses of incorrect calls because the game has just gotten way too quick. Hell not even an English ref was nominated for the world cup.

There were TONS of discussions of referees from ALL clubs...
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4371 Posts
August 18 2019 11:01 GMT
#597
If you think what goes by here and english media is a ton of discussion on refs than I hope you never spend a week around PT in front of a TV after a big game.

I've seen a lot of bpl over the years (not close to all games obviously) but i've never seen the amount of mystakes you imply. But hey, this might be a perception thing only.

Regarding english refs in international competitions, the let them play mentality that we all love on the bpl is poorly seen by diver's countries players/management/whatever when it comes to international games. Thats my take on it but obviously its just my opinion.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18722 Posts
August 18 2019 12:40 GMT
#598
On August 18 2019 20:01 KobraKay wrote:
If you think what goes by here and english media is a ton of discussion on refs than I hope you never spend a week around PT in front of a TV after a big game.

I've seen a lot of bpl over the years (not close to all games obviously) but i've never seen the amount of mystakes you imply. But hey, this might be a perception thing only.

Regarding english refs in international competitions, the let them play mentality that we all love on the bpl is poorly seen by diver's countries players/management/whatever when it comes to international games. Thats my take on it but obviously its just my opinion.


I am judging it neither by what goes in this topic or by the media. I talk to English fans, maybe you should do the same. English refs are all crap. No idea how Portugese ones are but to say English ones are good lol.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-18 12:59:59
August 18 2019 12:59 GMT
#599
You have to agree though Sharkie that the rules are a grey area and that gets these awkward decisions like a handball being a handball in game A but in game B it is not. I mean Cesc got sent off for VAR on matchday 1 in Ligue 1 for Monaco via VAR for absolutely nothing lol.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28875 Posts
August 18 2019 13:15 GMT
#600
That was a bigger problem before.. The difference is that now it's 'borderline situations that can be interpreted either way' going either way instead of 'situations where every single person who has ever seen a football game agrees that this is a penalty' not being a penalty.
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