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sad sad days.NBA Finals 2017 - Page 3
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bluzi
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ZenithM
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18051 Posts
1. they let more contact go in the playoffs 2 calls get missed and messed up in every game. the referees are not god and never have been. the score represented the play. Golden State outplayed Cleveland by a big margin. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
Of course, since this is Klay Thompson, he might randomly go for 60 points or shoot the Warriors out of the game. We'll never know. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
there's gonna be 3v3 basketball in the olympics, probably for toyko. anyone think nba players would just win easily in the event or do u think there's anything about 3v3 that would trouble them? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On June 02 2017 23:54 andrewlt wrote: Cleveland's path to victory last year involved totally ignoring Harrison Barnes. Golden State's offense short circuits when there is a designated open guy who keeps bricking open shots. If Klay keeps shooting the way he does in these playoffs, they might give him the Barnes treatment. Of course, since this is Klay Thompson, he might randomly go for 60 points or shoot the Warriors out of the game. We'll never know. I don't think it really matters whether Klay keeps bricking shots. There are two big differences from last year. First, and most obviously, the Warriors now have two players who can create their own offense when left in single coverage. Second, the Cavs defense is not what it was last year. I picked the Warriors to sweep, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do it with 10+ point average margin of victory. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18051 Posts
On June 03 2017 02:11 xDaunt wrote: First, and most obviously, the Warriors now have two players who can create their own offense when left in single coverage. Second, the Cavs defense is not what it was last year. I picked the Warriors to sweep, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do it with 10+ point average margin of victory. i think its an increase in turnovers that is giving the Cleveland defense an almost impossible task on many possessions. if Leonard stayed healthy the Spurs would've given the Warriors a good series. the eastern conference took a pretty big step backwards this year. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On June 03 2017 02:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i think its an increase in turnovers that is giving the Cleveland defense an almost impossible task on many possessions. https://twitter.com/JerryEngelmann/status/870611043537571843 if Leonard stayed healthy the Spurs would've given the Warriors a good series. the eastern conference took a pretty big step backwards this year. Even if you reduce the turnovers, last night's game was closer than it should have been. Draymond and Klay were both bricking shots. The Warriors also missed a ton of layups -- particularly in the first half. That was a mediocre Warriors performance offensively (especially given how good their defense was), and I don't think that the Cavs can reasonably expect to see those types of numbers again. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
the Cavs were bewitched by simple off-ball picks and basic high pick-and-rolls with action. http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/dont-be-fooled-the-cavs-defense-hasnt-improved-and-that-spells-doom-against-golden-state-052417 | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On June 03 2017 02:28 xDaunt wrote: Even if you reduce the turnovers, last night's game was closer than it should have been. Draymond and Klay were both bricking shots. The Warriors also missed a ton of layups -- particularly in the first half. That was a mediocre Warriors performance offensively (especially given how good their defense was), and I don't think that the Cavs can reasonably expect to see those types of numbers again. Can't expect the Warriors to be good on offense every game. They're going to have their share of mediocre to bad performances offensively. This Cavs team is built like the Rockets. They are attempting to outshoot the Warriors. Most of their new role players are offense first types. The Warriors can get better on offense but so can the Cavs. They were really bad last night. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18051 Posts
On June 03 2017 02:28 xDaunt wrote: Even if you reduce the turnovers, last night's game was closer than it should have been. Draymond and Klay were both bricking shots. The Warriors also missed a ton of layups -- particularly in the first half. That was a mediocre Warriors performance offensively (especially given how good their defense was), and I don't think that the Cavs can reasonably expect to see those types of numbers again. Cleveland's offense will continue to be plagued by turnovers throughout this series. Its been a problem for months against clearly inferior opposition. of the 11 live-ball TOs GS scored 17 points... so that's 1.55 points per possession. So the shortcomings of Cleveland's sloppy, risk-seeking offense will make their defense appear worse than it is. Had GS been shooting better then Cleveland's defense looks even worse as you noted. On June 02 2017 23:54 andrewlt wrote: Cleveland's path to victory last year involved totally ignoring Harrison Barnes. Golden State's offense short circuits when there is a designated open guy who keeps bricking open shots. If Klay keeps shooting the way he does in these playoffs, they might give him the Barnes treatment.... Notice Cleveland had Zero steals last night. I think that's the sign of a defense taking zero risks and always trying to cover all 5 players. It'll be interesting to see if Cleveland starts ignoring Thompson or another Warrior in the way they ignored barnes last year. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 03 2017 04:31 andrewlt wrote: Can't expect the Warriors to be good on offense every game. They're going to have their share of mediocre to bad performances offensively. This Cavs team is built like the Rockets. They are attempting to outshoot the Warriors. Most of their new role players are offense first types. The Warriors can get better on offense but so can the Cavs. They were really bad last night. The warriors were bad on offense last night. It was a brick show on open 3s for anyone but Curry. The Cavs mostly converted thier open looks (they just didn't have enough). The Cavs need Kyrie and LeBron to start converting contested layups at a ridiculously high rate to sag the defense off shooters. Or they need the refs to call ticky tack foils on those drives (while ignoring them on the other end). TT is probably also the key, he needs to dominate the glass and get those easy putbacks to the tune of about 15 points. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18051 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On June 03 2017 05:03 cLutZ wrote: The warriors were bad on offense last night. It was a brick show on open 3s for anyone but Curry. The Cavs mostly converted thier open looks (they just didn't have enough). The Cavs need Kyrie and LeBron to start converting contested layups at a ridiculously high rate to sag the defense off shooters. Or they need the refs to call ticky tack foils on those drives (while ignoring them on the other end). TT is probably also the key, he needs to dominate the glass and get those easy putbacks to the tune of about 15 points. I agree. A lot of that did happen last year. I do agree with Daryl Morey that the way the Cavs are doing it is the best way to try to upset the Warriors. It already happened once. | ||
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Jerubaal
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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xDaunt
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cLutZ
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