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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 31 2017 18:14 GMT
#21
I mean, Durant's may have been the more sure move, but Lebron's was the more unethical/poorly handled.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
May 31 2017 19:24 GMT
#22
I guess I don't mind the move because I've always liked Durant's game and wanted to see him play in an NBA level offense for once. That clogged toilet offense they ran in OKC was just ugly even though his talents made it effective.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17708 Posts
May 31 2017 21:24 GMT
#23
On June 01 2017 02:03 ZenithM wrote:
Plus, the whole "he joined the team that beat him while he was up 3-1" thing. Durant really checked all the boxes to produce the weakest free agency move of all time.

Reggie Jackson to the New York Yankees was prolly weaker. but different sport.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 31 2017 21:53 GMT
#24
On May 29 2017 12:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
yep, has 3 in a row in the final round happened in any other sport? i don't think its happened in the NBA.

first time in NBA for sure

happened in MLB
Yankees vs Giants 1921, 22, and 23 world series

Yankees vs Dodgers did 4 in 5 years: 52, 53, 55, 56

Browns vs Lions (kind of funny) happened 3x in a row pre super bowl era. NFL title games in 52, 53, and 54
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
May 31 2017 22:15 GMT
#25
Nowadays, a Browns vs Lions Super Bowl happening even 1x would be a historic "streak".
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17708 Posts
May 31 2017 22:27 GMT
#26
On June 01 2017 06:53 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2017 12:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
yep, has 3 in a row in the final round happened in any other sport? i don't think its happened in the NBA.

first time in NBA for sure

happened in MLB
Yankees vs Giants 1921, 22, and 23 world series

Yankees vs Dodgers did 4 in 5 years: 52, 53, 55, 56

Browns vs Lions (kind of funny) happened 3x in a row pre super bowl era. NFL title games in 52, 53, and 54


Allouettes v. Eskimos, Canadian Football League.
back in the "Warren Moon Era"
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
June 01 2017 11:52 GMT
#27
Can't believe how much everyone is sleeping on Lebron and the Cavs.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17708 Posts
June 01 2017 14:07 GMT
#28
On June 01 2017 20:52 RowdierBob wrote:
Can't believe how much everyone is sleeping on Lebron and the Cavs.

we'll know shortly if they are. i suspect the thinking is that the level of competition the Cavaliers faced in the playoffs is lower than Golden State's competition. That's why i'm taking Golden State.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17708 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-01 23:20:21
June 01 2017 22:52 GMT
#29
except game 3 every game has a 2 day break. wtf?
On May 31 2017 05:13 Jerubaal wrote:
Man, what kind of country are we living in where a man can't use his hard earned dollar to buy a playoff ticket and throw a catfish onto the ice.

they dropped the charges on the guy which i think was the right thing to do. i remember in the nWo's heyday everything but the kitchen sink got thrown into the ring at the end of Monday Nitro.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 02 2017 00:39 GMT
#30
#1. Why did we need a new thread? Surely the playoffs one would have done fine.

#2.

On June 01 2017 01:56 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2017 01:14 Elroi wrote:
I dont really get why so many people crticize durant for jumping on a super team. Didnt lebron do exactly the same thing with bosh/wade and now irving/love?? But yeah the nba need tougher competition.


everyone called him out then too. but i think durant gets more hate because he joined a 73 win team who have proven that they are already elite and can win. while lebron joined a 47 win team that lost in the 1st round and although he was joined by bosh, there was still the uncertainty of how it would pan out and im not sure if anyone had any doubts about the warriors.


That is just hindsight on the Heat. When they came together they had the #1 and #2/3 (Wade/Howard) players in the East, and the #3 Big in the East. There was talk about whether they would break the Bulls' 72 win record, almost everyone picked them to win the title at the beginning of the year (and every year after that until they lost to the Spurs). Most people, at that time, if you had asked them where the Heat would be in 2017, they would have said, "Probably going for their 5th title in 7 years."
Freeeeeeedom
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 02 2017 01:26 GMT
#31
Welp NBA, you really have done nothing but fuel the conspiracy theorists with this first quarter.
Freeeeeeedom
zdarr
Profile Joined September 2010
France375 Posts
June 02 2017 02:21 GMT
#32
Well lebron join teams and they become strong, durant joined a team that were 2 times in a row in nba finals, winning one.
Adding to that the fact he choked super hard in game 6 and 7 when OKC came back from a 3-1 deficit in the conference finals.

You can't fault good players wanting to play with other good players, but Miami was almost non existent from 2006-2007 until lebron joined them. Best they could do is a 1st round in playoffs...
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 02 2017 02:35 GMT
#33
Yes, and that team added Chris Bosh as well. A Wade-Bosh team should be a 55 win team. People are rewriting history on the Heat. Almost everyone expected them to 3-Peat minimum when the team was formed.

Also, JR Smith is just committing flagrants on every possession right now.
Freeeeeeedom
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-02 02:42:08
June 02 2017 02:41 GMT
#34
This game would be an absolute clowning if Klay could shoot worth a damn.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 02 2017 02:45 GMT
#35
Or if the Cavs weren't getting bailed out by the refs. TT should have like 15 fouls (despite playing like a fat clown) judged by the Draymond-Zaza standard. The Cavs are this "close" based on making 3s, meanwhile the Dubs are killing it on drives and getting nothing from the stripes.
Freeeeeeedom
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
June 02 2017 02:57 GMT
#36
On June 02 2017 11:45 cLutZ wrote:
Or if the Cavs weren't getting bailed out by the refs. TT should have like 15 fouls (despite playing like a fat clown) judged by the Draymond-Zaza standard. The Cavs are this "close" based on making 3s, meanwhile the Dubs are killing it on drives and getting nothing from the stripes.


The dubs have been getting questionable calls all game.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 02 2017 03:17 GMT
#37
On June 02 2017 11:57 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2017 11:45 cLutZ wrote:
Or if the Cavs weren't getting bailed out by the refs. TT should have like 15 fouls (despite playing like a fat clown) judged by the Draymond-Zaza standard. The Cavs are this "close" based on making 3s, meanwhile the Dubs are killing it on drives and getting nothing from the stripes.


The dubs have been getting questionable calls all game.

They have been getting questionable no-calls when they are playing defense. Both teams have. The Free throws right now are 21-16 CLE, based on how they are playing it should be reversed, actually it should be significantly more GSW than reversed.
Freeeeeeedom
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
June 02 2017 03:19 GMT
#38
klays been pretty damn bad shooting these playoffs
bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
June 02 2017 03:53 GMT
#39
Look at the bright side, the Warriors won by 20 with Klay and Draymond not scoring hardly at all. Would have been an even bigger blowout if Klay knocked down just half of his shots.

Pretty sure every pick that Tristan Thompson sets is a moving/holding screen that is definitely an offensive foul. Not to mention the no travel calls on the patented LeBron 3 step to the basket.

RIP Cavs fans
I carry hard!
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
June 02 2017 04:55 GMT
#40
On June 02 2017 11:41 xDaunt wrote:
This game would be an absolute clowning if Klay could shoot worth a damn.

Part of the toaster sacrifice. Warriors 4-0?

On June 02 2017 11:21 zdarr wrote:
Well lebron join teams and they become strong, durant joined a team that were 2 times in a row in nba finals, winning one.
Adding to that the fact he choked super hard in game 6 and 7 when OKC came back from a 3-1 deficit in the conference finals.

You can't fault good players wanting to play with other good players, but Miami was almost non existent from 2006-2007 until lebron joined them. Best they could do is a 1st round in playoffs...

I am what you might call Lebron-neutral. I dont mind the guy, he plays to win, and he certainly wants to be considered goat. I respect him for that. But the ongoing narrative is absolutely false. Lebron did not just join a team and make it great. He joined a championship caliber Heat and added a few surefire HOF superstar players. And when he realized his superteam could not win anymore, he jumped ship to join #1 Irving and again demand a few superstar players. I'll leave to the haters to talk about how he chokes on big games and how he is constantly being saved by other superstars, but what I want to emphasize is that if he aims to be GOAT, he should be criticized on that level as well.

Having said that, the Durant to warriors move is dirty af. Its like a kid joining his bullies after being beat up for so long so he could get a chance to win. But like Lebron joining Wade, I understand the bottomline essence of it. They are both 10+ years superstar veterans of the league, and at that point the pressure to win a ring must be terribly crushing. Its a case of winning a ring at all costs.
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