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On June 13 2017 07:56 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 07:31 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: What's the predictions for tonight? Does GSW close it out? Or do the Cavs come back? Warriors will close it out. Cavs caught lightning in a bottle in Game 4. That's not happening again. Even if Kerr makes minimal adjustments, the Warriors are too good to lose like that again, and the Cavs simply aren't going to have another shooting performance like they did Game 4. I'm hoping for the same. I'll know for sure what's going to happen by half or at the latest, middle of the 3rd.
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On June 13 2017 07:03 cLutZ wrote: I think the system they have could work if the NBA would retroactively take away techs and suspend refs that give them out too much very often, but they don't. In fact, they give out stupid fines when someone accurately points out a problem with the reffing. In that way, they are like the Principal that always sides with the teachers, then acts all confused when there are 80 parents beating down his door because somehow all his male honors students (and it always seems to be males) are all of the sudden getting C-'s in one new teacher's class that uses a subjective grading system.
They do take away techs, but if it gets to ref abuse techs, you are not right, even if you think the ref was wrong. Has this really been a problem outside of the Crawford fucks? I think you are creating a problem that doesn't really exist. I think the refs do an ok job and there don't seem to be any easy answers on how to improve it. Refs reffing with their egos seems to be very far down the list. If anything, we need less gamesmanship on the part of the players and coaches. You mentioned fines for criticism of the officiating but most of the time they are full of shit.
That seems like a bad example for a comparison because grading disputes are usually much more cut and dry. Even "subjective" grading has standards. I like the discipline (or even arguing about a grade in class) comparison more because if you have reached that point, you are in no way in the right, no matter how strong you think your point is. I mean, we are talking about grown ass men and I hate the constant apologies for how we can't expect them to not act like whiny, spoiled children.
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On June 13 2017 07:56 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 07:31 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: What's the predictions for tonight? Does GSW close it out? Or do the Cavs come back? Warriors will close it out. Cavs caught lightning in a bottle in Game 4. That's not happening again. Even if Kerr makes minimal adjustments, the Warriors are too good to lose like that again, and the Cavs simply aren't going to have another shooting performance like they did Game 4.
Even as a Cavs fan I agree, but that said I think people are acting like Cleveland won by the skin of their teeth because a 15 point lead against the Warriors doesn't feel like(and often isn't) enough, but they did win by 21, so you can take away 7 of those 3's and it's a tie game.
Cavs don't need to shoot 50% to be in the game, game 3 was super tight and they shot sub-30 with the Warriors shooting well themselves.
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I think Golden State has the advantage but people keep on underestimating the Cavs' offense. They can catch fire for four games. Game 3 was really close and both games 1 and 2 required the Dubs to pull away in the third quarter. This series is hard to predict because both teams can catch fire and destroy game plans.
That said, Golden State hasn't had a terrible game on offense but it hasn't caught fire either.
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The thing is, I think GS wins close games by 70-30. Lue and the Cavs have not shown tight playmaking abilities.
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Warriors are the most lazy good team ever.
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I guess you could say he was diving at the ball but Zaza looked like he was legit just diving at Kyries legs right there because he had another 5+ feet to get to the ball itself.
Cool player, glad he's in the league.
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Why the fuck is Kerr leaving Pachulia out there? Terrible coaching.
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the officials are calling it tight. with all these early fouls the benches could be a critical deciding factor in this game
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LeBron has had two should've been MONSTER posters on Durant this series but KD has ducked out of both(still fouled him on that one there though lul).
Edit: I thought he shied away on that more than he did live he actually went for the full contest in LBJ's face nevermind. Straight posterized.
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Durant demanding a flagrant foul call because he got hit in the head on a shot attempt game 4 is made ridiculous by how often LeBron gets hit in the head. I guess Durant just got away with a flagrant which would have been his 3rd foul.
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GS missing a lot of open shots. Surprised Iggy missed that wide open corner 3.
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On June 13 2017 10:54 BlackJack wrote: Durant demanding a flagrant foul call because he got hit in the head on a shot attempt game 4 is made ridiculous by how often LeBron gets hit in the head. I guess Durant just got away with a flagrant which would have been his 3rd foul.
Warriors are shooting god awful but only down 2 because the reffing this game has been swung the other direction(it wasn't as bad as made out to be by stans in Game 4, and it's in their favor but not that bad this game).
Expecting them to pull away in the 3rd, saddens me as a Cavs fan.
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On June 13 2017 10:57 ghrur wrote: GS missing a lot of open shots. Surprised Iggy missed that wide open corner 3. The Warriors 3-point shooting has not been good the past couple games.
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Did something go wonky with the time left ticker for everyone else?
Edit: NVM they just found it out.
On June 13 2017 11:02 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 10:57 ghrur wrote: GS missing a lot of open shots. Surprised Iggy missed that wide open corner 3. The Warriors 3-point shooting has not been good the past couple games.
The not-talked about point for this is that reffing and 3-pt shooting are as related as reffing and # of FTs
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Boring series, refs deciding another game.
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Worst officiated game of the series and that's saying something.
Edit: I still highly doubt it happens, and I am OBVIOUSLY biased as a Cavs fan. But I have never hoped for LeBron to just absolutely beast a team more than right now.
KD acting tough with his chest out while he should be on the bench with 3 fouls and a flagrant(if we're going by game4 rules, contact to the head no matter what, add Dray to that list while we're at it since he once again played defense by jumping over TT on a play under the basket). Curry gets force fed FTAs until he can find his rhythm from the field.
What do the Warriors have? Some complaints that the game is 'getting called too tight!!!!" That's what they were literally begging for on Friday. Get the fuck out.
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Not to be rude, but the announcers are blowing this. The "escalator" JR Smith shoving West into TT. TT shouldn't have gotten the tech, should have been a simple double tech.
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I think the reffing on this game is pretty good. It's just tight, which I actually prefer since it sucks seeing players hurt due to loose/scrappy games.
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Cavs are still shooting above their pay grade. Would be nice if that finally stopped.
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