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bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
June 10 2017 04:03 GMT
#181
It just takes an insane amount of 3's to beat the Warriors. Seriously though, how does Tristan Thompson never get offensive fouls for endless illegal screens and over the back fouls? It truly baffles me.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 10 2017 04:11 GMT
#182
On June 10 2017 13:03 bdonballer wrote:
It just takes an insane amount of 3's to beat the Warriors. Seriously though, how does Tristan Thompson never get offensive fouls for endless illegal screens and over the back fouls? It truly baffles me.

He is the king of over the back, and it scares me. In related news, he was serviceable for the first time and they won.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 10 2017 04:22 GMT
#183
flopball at its finest tbh
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13497 Posts
June 10 2017 04:31 GMT
#184
If Cavs can somehow eek out game 5 Warriors will get pretty nervous.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 10 2017 04:39 GMT
#185
No team was going to beat the Cavs tonight. Their shooting was too good, all other bullshit aside. I don't see them duplicating this.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
June 10 2017 04:54 GMT
#186
The 95-96 Bulls would have beat them.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
June 10 2017 05:43 GMT
#187
Poll: Did game 4 look rigged?

Yes (24)
 
96%

No (1)
 
4%

25 total votes

Your vote: Did game 4 look rigged?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 10 2017 06:18 GMT
#188
https://streamable.com/ysiat

how on earth do you even explain no call on this shit
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
June 10 2017 06:36 GMT
#189
I can't stop watching that. While both teams got calls, the early calls in the game sealed it. There's no way to come back from a 50pt half.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 10 2017 12:34 GMT
#190
I'm not one to complain about the refereeing usually, but it looks... off in these Cleveland games, to say the least :D.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17815 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-10 14:40:52
June 10 2017 14:19 GMT
#191
its interesting to compare raw +/- to the various adjusted +/- stats out there.

https://www.sportingcharts.com/nba/stats/individual-player-plus-minus-statistics/2016/

NBA playoff power rankings..

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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7025 Posts
June 10 2017 14:22 GMT
#192
On June 10 2017 13:39 xDaunt wrote:
No team was going to beat the Cavs tonight. Their shooting was too good, all other bullshit aside. I don't see them duplicating this.

well but game 3 was pretty brutal for the cavs.it was like having 5 bases vs 3 then the oponent attacked your main and killed your production.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17815 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-10 14:42:58
June 10 2017 14:42 GMT
#193
On June 10 2017 23:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 13:39 xDaunt wrote:
No team was going to beat the Cavs tonight. Their shooting was too good, all other bullshit aside. I don't see them duplicating this.

well but game 3 was pretty brutal for the cavs.it was like having 5 bases vs 3 then the oponent attacked your main and killed your production.

Gumiho won game 5 on 2 bases while his opponent had 4 bases and Tasteless had written Gumiho off. Cleveland needs to get Gumiho in there to come up with some strats.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-10 16:20:52
June 10 2017 16:13 GMT
#194
Refereeing was off but the amount of 3's the Cavs drained was just insane. No one on the Warriors got hot, gg. I'm a little afraid the rest of the series will be anti-climactic, as the refereeing falls in line and the Cavs miss a few more shots, the Warriors will just kinda win one and that's that. Still I expect to see some more amazing individual performances.

On June 10 2017 15:18 andyrau wrote:
https://streamable.com/ysiat

how on earth do you even explain no call on this shit

I'm not gonna try to defend the numerous bizarre refereeing incidents that went down, but at least for this one there's some plausibility. The ref is watching and from his angle you might imagine that he thought it was a possibility Klay's swipe actually made contact with the ball. Like from his perspective, Klay swiped for the ball, his hand disappeared behind the ball so the ref can't actually see if contact is made, next thing you know Kyrie lost control. Ref signals that Klay touched it, so no call.

Then again, if refs were biased, then one way they'd act on it is by having all the calls with some uncertainty involved go the same way. So it doesn't really help to look at one call and say it's plausible.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 10 2017 18:57 GMT
#195
The thing about saying, "Cleveland hit so many threes" (and granted I didn't see the first half), is that defense, fouls, and 3s are strongly related. There is a reason fewer people took lots of 3s in the 90s, and its because you could always be in the shooter's business for all 24 seconds with very little effort and low chance of getting called for a foul. If a team is getting cheap calls they are gonna hit more threes, and if you aren't getting calls you are going to "go cold".
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
June 10 2017 23:35 GMT
#196
Fuck these refs. Fuck the nba. I think cleveland is great, but I cant enjoy the game when the refs calls are this arbitrary.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
June 11 2017 11:34 GMT
#197
On June 10 2017 12:48 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 12:44 Scarecrow wrote:
The nba wants a game 5 in GS? or is it just bad?

How was draymond not given a flagrant for that mugging of TT?

Thompson came up after Livingston fouled him trying to draw the foul. Draymond was caught in the air. Not flagrant.


Had to wait to see it again, but the way he jumped in to TT and came down on his head was clearly a flagrant. But it was draymond, so they didn't call it.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17815 Posts
June 11 2017 17:19 GMT
#198
the officiating has been fair but flawed. more flawed than usual due to the pace of the game and the quickness of the players ... and just so much going on at once. GS deserves to be up 3-1 and lo and behold.. its 3-1 for GS. the officials are not god and never have been. if we had 24 HD/4K cameras throughout an arena in 1980 i'll bet you the officiating would be either the same or worse.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
June 11 2017 18:20 GMT
#199
It's really weird. The Warriors must be feeling annoyed right now, but they know they can't say shit because the refs are protecting Draymond, who looked like he could have gotten 3 or 4 techs that game. Pachulia is a chump. And holy cow, that should have been an automatic ejection on Lebron, getting up in the officials face like that.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
June 11 2017 19:46 GMT
#200
On June 11 2017 20:34 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 12:48 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On June 10 2017 12:44 Scarecrow wrote:
The nba wants a game 5 in GS? or is it just bad?

How was draymond not given a flagrant for that mugging of TT?

Thompson came up after Livingston fouled him trying to draw the foul. Draymond was caught in the air. Not flagrant.

https://youtu.be/0ZfZuPt0iVM?t=9m50s
Had to wait to see it again, but the way he jumped in to TT and came down on his head was clearly a flagrant. But it was draymond, so they didn't call it.

He jumped straight up, expecting TT to keep momentum. When TT stopped, Draymond was caught in the air. After Livingston fouled him, TT stayed on the ground and then drew the foul by trying to shoot. Draymond couldn't stop his momentum even if he tried. It was not flagrant. No matter your leaning in the games, Draymond didn't intend to jump on his back. Anyone could have done the exact same move, and not be called.
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