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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 10 2018 02:57 GMT
#1681
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18034 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-10 03:32:49
June 10 2018 03:30 GMT
#1682
the royalties on black dog are like 800 zillion billion dollars... u'll never hear that song once 225 is on fight pass.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Taelshin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada420 Posts
June 10 2018 05:41 GMT
#1683
Thought Romero won, too bad would setup for a 3rd fight. Also the CM Punk fight was miserable i'm not sure if it wasnt rigged somehow the dude could have finished him at any point(if felt like).
"We didnt listen"
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
June 10 2018 05:50 GMT
#1684
I was cheering for Whittaker, but shocking decision. That was the only one way that Whittaker could have won, all rounds 10-9, winning round 1, 2, and 4. I'll be needing to rewatch it, but the way I saw it was:

Round 1: Clear Whittaker 10-9, no shots that really stunned, but pressed more, did more damage.
Round 2: Whittaker had more volume, Romero stunned Whitaker hard, I'd 70% give that round to Romero.
Round 3: Romero demolished Whittaker here, Whittaker was on the end of being knocked out for a while, 50% 10-8 for Romero, 50% 10-9 for Romero.
Round 4: I mean here Romero played it dumb, he knew he won Round 3, and was fighting an opponent who wasn't throwing one hand, he really should have applied enough pressure to convincingly win the round, maybe it did take him over 5 minutes to recover, but anyway. Even though Romero got out struck hard, I think that the shots were little more than taps, and I think you could make a case for Romero winning that round by rocking Whittaker hard in that last minute. 60% 10-9 Romero.
Round 5: Whittaker was in survival mode the whole round, rocked like 3 times, dropped I think twice. 10% 10-7 Romero, 85% 10-8 Romero, 5% 10-9 Romero.

So I would have given Whittaker 0.3*0.4*0.05 = 0.6% of winning that fight, while I'd even be okay with a 49-44 Romero decision, though 48-46 Romero seemed the most reasonable to me.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
June 10 2018 06:02 GMT
#1685
On June 10 2018 14:41 Taelshin wrote:
Thought Romero won, too bad would setup for a 3rd fight. Also the CM Punk fight was miserable i'm not sure if it wasnt rigged somehow the dude could have finished him at any point(if felt like).


Hard to say, I think the average fan left with the feeling of seeing a dominated Whittaker. People wont see him as a legit champ until he beats Romero imo. Though it is shitty and it's tough to say what you should do, given that Romero missed weight for the 2nd time in a row, though it was 0.2lbs.

Honestly I have no idea, just giving Romero anyone but Whittaker seems very underwhelming, and Whittaker fighting Gastelum or somebody next seems like the duck of the century. Missing weight lose 75% of your purse clause, and Romero vs Whittaker 3 is what I'd do. Though no idea who Gastelum fights, maybe the winner of Costa vs Hall, or Cuckhold if he ends up not fighting Gustafsson.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 10 2018 06:12 GMT
#1686
romero 3 and 5

pretty non controversial decision imo
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
June 10 2018 06:59 GMT
#1687
On June 10 2018 15:12 CorsairHero wrote:
romero 3 and 5

pretty non controversial decision imo


MEDIA MEMBER SCORES

5/27 people scored it 48-47 Whittaker.
7/27 people scored it 47-47 DRAW.
10/27 people scored it 47-48 Romero.
5/27 people scored it 46-48 Romero.

It was under the new unified rules, not giving a 10-8 round, especially for R5 was absurd to me.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 10 2018 08:42 GMT
#1688
interesting, the way i scored it, even if rd 5 was 10-8 it would have been 47-47 which even though it wasn't a title fight would have been a "win" for whittaker
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18034 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-10 12:12:09
June 10 2018 11:53 GMT
#1689
Dana White said Whittaker broke his hand in the 3rd round. Whittaker said he broke it in the 1st round.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-10 19:30:40
June 10 2018 12:31 GMT
#1690
I was cheering for Whittaker, but shocking decision. That was the only one way that Whittaker could have won, all rounds 10-9, winning round 1, 2, and 4. I'll be needing to rewatch it, but the way I saw it was:

Round 1: Clear Whittaker 10-9, no shots that really stunned, but pressed more, did more damage.
Round 2: Whittaker had more volume, Romero stunned Whitaker hard, I'd 70% give that round to Romero.
Round 3: Romero demolished Whittaker here, Whittaker was on the end of being knocked out for a while, 50% 10-8 for Romero, 50% 10-9 for Romero.
Round 4: I mean here Romero played it dumb, he knew he won Round 3, and was fighting an opponent who wasn't throwing one hand, he really should have applied enough pressure to convincingly win the round, maybe it did take him over 5 minutes to recover, but anyway. Even though Romero got out struck hard, I think that the shots were little more than taps, and I think you could make a case for Romero winning that round by rocking Whittaker hard in that last minute. 60% 10-9 Romero.
Round 5: Whittaker was in survival mode the whole round, rocked like 3 times, dropped I think twice. 10% 10-7 Romero, 85% 10-8 Romero, 5% 10-9 Romero.

So I would have given Whittaker 0.3*0.4*0.05 = 0.6% of winning that fight, while I'd even be okay with a 49-44 Romero decision, though 48-46 Romero seemed the most reasonable to me.

in my (admittedly uneducated) opinion after rewatching the fight

round 1: whitaker 10-9, not much damage (except the leg kicks) but romero threw almost nothing.
round 2: Your memory is playing tricks on you, because romero never stunned Whitaker in this round, you made me doubt myself so i rewatched it but Whitaker dominated the round ( he outstruck romero, had a couple nice head kicks, closed one of his eyes, stuffed a take down .. whittaker 10-9
round 3: huge knockdown by romero, whittaker barely survives but manages to come back with a couple of good elbows, lands a nice headkick. Lots of damage and definitely dominatng round for Romero but not one sided enough to be 10-8. 10-9 romero
round 4: whittaker landed kicks and jabs for 4min40 sec with romero doing almost nothing. Romero landed 2 bombes that hurt whittaker but there was no knock down, i don't think these 2 punches are enough to win the round for romero. 10-9 whittaker 80%
round 5: brutal round by romero, knocked down whittaker at 3min:25 and nearly stopped the fight. Whittaker managed to stabilize for the last 2min and finished decently. With the new rules 10-8 is not unreasonnable. i'd say 10-8 romero 50% or 10-9 romero .No way it's a 10-7.

therefore i have it 40% 48-47 whittaker, 40% 47-47 draw 20% romero wins




JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-10 15:47:01
June 10 2018 15:45 GMT
#1691
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18034 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-20 00:07:51
June 20 2018 00:04 GMT
#1692
a bit of insight from GSP's trainer about why power costs a fighter their endurance

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18034 Posts
June 22 2018 03:53 GMT
#1693
UFC 225 sold an estimated 250,000 PPV buys.
ouch.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/6/19/17477986/ufc-225-is-estimated-at-250000-buys
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
July 05 2018 07:44 GMT
#1694
gg ufc
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18034 Posts
July 05 2018 19:34 GMT
#1695
looks like Max Holloway's career is in jeopardy.
slurred speech... hard to wake up...
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3173 Posts
July 06 2018 03:02 GMT
#1696
Such a shame Holloway is out again. He's had to bow out of a few fights recently. Wish he could stay healthy. I love watching Max fight. Let's hope DC and Stipe can stay healthy for 226. I'm really looking forward to that fight.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 06 2018 03:56 GMT
#1697
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18034 Posts
July 08 2018 03:57 GMT
#1698
bizarre co-main event. 2 sluggers and we get this dance fest?

i wonder if Ngannou was badly KO-ed in sparring a couple of weeks before this fight. he is guarding his head so carefully even when Lewis is obviously heaving leg kicks at his legs... Ngannou backs away and guards his head.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
July 08 2018 04:07 GMT
#1699
On July 08 2018 12:57 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
bizarre co-main event. 2 sluggers and we get this dance fest?

i wonder if Ngannou was badly KO-ed in sparring a couple of weeks before this fight. he is guarding his head so carefully even when Lewis is obviously heaving leg kicks at his legs... Ngannou backs away and guards his head.

He definitely needs a sport psychologist. If not... something more.

Dude just seemed so out of it. I can see why Derrick Lewis fought the the fight he did though, especially in the later rounds. Ngannou must've been fairly fresh in the second and third rounds compared to Lewis. Definitely makes it a scarier proposition for Lewis to engage.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 08 2018 04:09 GMT
#1700
Yeah, what a fight. Maybe Brock paid them off so there's no #1 contender, and he gets to fight for the belt.

Such a bad fight, Ngannou is more responsible about that for sure.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
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