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please fix this "bayern leverkusen" as soon as possible, that makes me angry! :D
on another note... i don't get why everybody is calling bvb's group an easy group... arsenal WON in munich last season, marseille was the team that kicked 'em out 2 seasons ago and you should never underestimate napoli.
schalke, in their current shape, will have a hard time against basel and bukarest, and there's no way they'll get a point against chelsea. i don't know bukarest that well so i think it'll depend on their matches against basel.
i see bayer (!) 04 leverkusen possibly passing the group stage, although i cannot rank real sociedad.
bayern does actually have a tough group. man city is always good for a surprise (since they dropped out of the group stage twice) and well... moscow in winter... damn, i really don't wanna be in moscow in winter.
but it could've went worse.. man i had bad dreams about group constellations like bayern - juve - man city - napoli
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Norway28673 Posts
A
1. manchester united
2. leverkusen
3. shakhtar donetsk
4. real sociedad
i think this might be the group with the best worst team.
B
1. real madrid
2. juventus
3. galatasaray
4. copenhagen
and this is prolly the group with the most given outcome of all.
C
1. PSG
2. benfica
3 4 dont care
D
1. Bayern
2. city
3. viktoria plzen
4. cska
I would looove for viktoria plzen to upset here but city and bayern are just too good.  I read a blog about them by some norwegian pundit, and he was basically saying that it was the current team most similar to rosenborg in 1995! they have a super brilliant coach with a really offensive mindset and it's awesome.
E
1 Chelsea
2 schalke
3 basel
4 steaua
chelsea with the by far easiest group of the english teams
F
1. Dortmund
2. Napoli
3. Arsenal
4. Marseille
it just feels like the stars have aligned against arsenal this season. and while I am not fully convinced regarding benitez' overall managerial abilities, I totally believe in him for the champions league.
G
1. Atletico Madrid
2. Zenit
3. Porto
4. Austria Wien
the group with the worst best team. and maybe also the worst worst team. (or copenhagen)
group h
1.barcelona
2.Milan
3. Ajax
4. Celtic
would love for ajax or celtic to get second! and wouldn't be shocked if either did.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
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Group A:
Manchester Uniteed
Leverkusen
Donezk
Real Sociedad
This one is hard to call. The one safe bet is Manchester United I think, but Donezk made it out of a group with Chelsea, but lost some players since then (but got some too). Leverkusen are looking strong so far, I am only concerned if the back 4 are good enough for CL, their offense should be good enough as long as Kießling stays healthy. If not they are missing a huge piece of the puzzle in front. Sociedad last because new to Europe. Could easily be Donezk 2nd and Leverkusen 3rd, but since Leverkusen are German and Donezk are scumbags (remember that fair play incident last year? I do), I rate Leverkusen higher.
B
Juventus
Real Madrid
Galatasaray
Kopenhagen
I rate Juventus higher than Madrid, because they didn't change the coach. They should have the better chemistry inside the team so Juventus 1st.
C
Paris and Benfica should advance, I have really no idea how good Piräus and Anderlecht are, but I guess Piräus has the better chance to upset.
D
Bayern München
Manchester City
ZSKA Moskau
Viktoria Plzen
Maybe Manchester City are going to make it out of the group stage this year. They should make it. But then again they should have made it the last two years too. So idk. Bayern München are safe to advance. Dunno how good ZSKA/Plzen are in comparison.
E
Chelsea
Basel
Schalke
Bukarest
Chelsea should go 1st ezpz. Schalke are playing horrific at the moment - that's why I rate the 3rd - but should go 2nd if they get it together. Their defensive midfield has no CL-class and their defense makes sooooo many indiviual mistakes it's hilarious. If they get Papadopoulos back for some games Höwedes and him should be the CB-combo, the only good one they have. Matip just makes too many mistakes as does Santana.
F
Dortmund
Arsenal
Napoli
Marseille
Wenger is going to work his magic and make it out of groupstage somehow, but Napoli are going to pressure them, so it could easily be Napoli 2nd and Arsenal 3rd. We (Dortmund) should go 1st or 2nd, the players know Europe now and as long as our defense doesn't fuck up we should advance. I hope we get Gündogan back for the game against Napoli, but Sahin is playing well so far too. Thanks Mr. Löw for aggravating his back injury in a meaningless friendly. Marseille are no walkovers either, but in that group they will be 4th unfortunately.
G
Wien 4th, but a hard fight for the other places. Considering how Petersburg have done last year, they will go 3rd I guess, so
Porto/Athletico
Zenit
Wien
H
Barcelona
Milan
Ajax
Celtic
Celtic is going to be bad away, but at home anything can happen. I think Milan is a little bit better than Ajax, but Ajax could end up 2nd place too. Barca 1st without problems, but they won't get more than 14 points.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
Apoel FC replace Fenerbahce in Europa League group stage draw
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I just hope Maribor doesn't get another crazy group like last season.
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still a little mistake: its München, not Munchen. ü is pronounced like the y in Syria  .
although the commentators on Fifa13 say Munchen too.
not that I care, just for the interested! Keep up the great work!
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Europa League group stage draw. Loving all that travelling for Spurs :3
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
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Netherlands13554 Posts
I entered with the least original name ever.
Also didn't really change formation or anything haha. Oops.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
Sahin does play week in week out right?
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hes only playing atm cause gündogan is injured
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diego lopez only costs 3.5 lol
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
Re changed my team!
Yeah UEFA stupid, they obviously haven't realized Casilias has been on the bench for real all season xD
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On September 10 2013 00:46 Pandemona wrote:
Re changed my team!
Yeah UEFA stupid, they obviously haven't realized Casilias has been on the bench for real all season xD
From the fantasy PL site:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1e4t1jl.png)
Edit: If you don't get it, Guzan is Villa's first choice keeper, and Given hasn't made a Premier League appearance since August 25, 2012.
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On September 10 2013 00:46 Pandemona wrote:
Re changed my team!
Yeah UEFA stupid, they obviously haven't realized Casilias has been on the bench for real all season xD
Or you haven't realized that Ancelotti said that Casillas would be the GK for the CL games :D
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
On September 10 2013 01:03 WillyWanker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 00:46 Pandemona wrote:
Re changed my team!
Yeah UEFA stupid, they obviously haven't realized Casilias has been on the bench for real all season xD Or you haven't realized that Ancelotti said that Casillas would be the GK for the CL games :D
Oh shit son....rofl
Can i get the quote of that so i can change rofl?
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EPT![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52682.png)
Manchester United ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/6/6d/En.gif)
vs ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50109.png)
Bayer Leverkusen 
![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50123.png)
Real Sociedad 
vs ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52707.png)
Shakhtar Donetsk 
![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50067.png)
Galatasaray 
vs ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50051.png)
Real Madrid ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52709.png)
FC København 
vs ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50139.png)
Juventus 
![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50147.png)
Benfica 
vs ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50074.png)
Anderlecht 
![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/2610.png)
Olympiacos 
vs ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52747.png)
Paris Saint-Germain 
![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50037.png)
Bayern Munchen ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/54266.png)
CSKA Moscow 
![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/64388.png)
FC Viktoria Plzeň 
vs ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52919.png)
Manchester City ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/57388.png)
Schalke 04 ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50065.png)
Steaua Bucuresti 
![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52914.png)
Chelsea ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/59856.png)
Basel ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/e/e5/Ch.png)
![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52748.png)
Marseille ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52280.png)
Arsenal ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50136.png)
Napoli ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52758.png)
Borussia Dortmund ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50110.png)
Austria Wien 
vs ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50064.png)
Porto ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50124.png)
Atletico Madrid ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/52826.png)
Zenit st. Petersburg ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50058.png)
AC Milan ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50050.png)
Celtic ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/8/8c/Sc.gif)
![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50080.png)
Barcelona ![[image loading]](http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/teams/logos/18x18/50143.png)
Ajax 
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MFkaZEk.jpg)
Might change him out then!
