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Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
May 08 2014 13:32 GMT
#16541
"Half English" sound so wrong^^

I dont think the "2 non-eu players every team" will not go through. Too much money included.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 13:34:32
May 08 2014 13:32 GMT
#16542
As you imagine im pretty pissed at the last bullet point as i think personally that is going to change the premier league to much and make it a lot weaker in terms of draw to the public which in effect might stat killing clubs financially....

The other points i am happy, i want English players to get more chance at the highest level to improve that way, the number don't even seem that much and would be alot better. Increase the academy numbers of English players instead of bringing all foreign kids. Will be alot better that way. But saying you can only have two work permit based players which are by the way anyone outside the EU or not played at least i think 2 years in Europe? To not need a work permit, i forget the essential rulings for it. It just means if you buy a player direct from outside Europe your only allowed 2 of them in your squad which is not cool.
I like the tighter work permits though, so the likes of Sunderland can't go buying from Uruguay some defenders who were poor by the way instead of giving chance to a youth defender if need be.

I do laugh at this new league so all premier ship teams have a B team but then they go on to say well we are going to increase number of loan players for clubs from premiership to allowed up to 8 players loaned to one club...LOL. Will be no need for B teams if that is the case is there! #Facepalm

On May 08 2014 22:32 Micro_Jackson wrote:
"Half English" sound so wrong^^

I dont think the "2 non-eu players every team" will not go through. Too much money included.


Yeah it will mean that your allowed 2players from outside European clubs in your squad. So Chelsea will be Oscar who we bought from Internationale and we have bought a few youngsters from Mexico and South America too, but they play for the reserves so i guess that wouldn't matter.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 13:41:12
May 08 2014 13:35 GMT
#16543
lol we have same system in Turkey.

It's fucking terrible. Only six foreigners can play in league. 6+0+4. You can only have six players on your 23 player roster. and that 4 is, other foreigners who will play as rotation.

On May 08 2014 22:32 Pandemona wrote:
The other points i am happy, i want English players to get more chance at the highest level to improve that way, the number don't even seem that much and would be alot better

We got worse thanks to this system lol.

We played semi final at World Cup 2002 and semi final at EURO 2008. Now we cant even qualify for these tournaments lool.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 08 2014 17:11 GMT
#16544
Interview with Greg Dyke:

http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-dyke-defends-fas-premier-league-b-team-proposal-14050890357
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Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 18:41:34
May 08 2014 18:31 GMT
#16545
Not a fan of the last bullet, or the timeline for this. England's academies need significant reform and I don't see them able to introduce enough quality by 2022 to keep the league at the current level since you have to start at very young ages. England doesn't produce the technical players that other countries do from their academies.

Soccernomics makes the argument that England has consistently punched above its weight already.

edit: After listening to that interview I noticed the FA chair seems to get some pretty important facts wrong.

If you look across Europe, the B teams don’t always all finish top of the league. That’s not what happens.

The Barcelona B team doesn’t beat teams in the lower league, they finished 16th this year I believe.


Barca B is in 3rd.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
May 08 2014 19:09 GMT
#16546
Brighton score! Made the play offs with a last minute goal on Saturday and now 1:0 up against Derby.

I think i want one of these two teams to go up rather than Wigan or QPR.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 19:39:43
May 08 2014 19:23 GMT
#16547
Not sure I understand Greg Dyke's reasons of why having B teams will be good for the lower down clubs. They reserve teams will end up been quite competitive compared to so many of the little clubs we have in English football with gates of only a few thousand and struggling for their lives with very limited finical situations . These clubs will find themselves playing 4-5 tier football instead of 3-4 that can't be good for the fans and marketing opportunities of these clubs. The other point is that The second tier 'The championship' is absolutely full of clubs who consider themselves premier league clubs so how many B team teams are we going to end up with.

I do understand the point that it might help English players make the jump up into the Premier League and we definitely need better youth programs especially from the Premier League clubs who largely seem to have adopted a policy of buying the talent rather than training it.
---
Brighton 1 Derby 1

edit: Cruel goal for Derby against Brighton as a shot comes back of the bar hitting the keeper in back and crossing the line. Brighton have probably been the better team but Derby lead 2:1 now.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6291 Posts
May 08 2014 20:16 GMT
#16548
On May 08 2014 22:35 Mensol wrote:
lol we have same system in Turkey.

It's fucking terrible. Only six foreigners can play in league. 6+0+4. You can only have six players on your 23 player roster. and that 4 is, other foreigners who will play as rotation.

Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 22:32 Pandemona wrote:
The other points i am happy, i want English players to get more chance at the highest level to improve that way, the number don't even seem that much and would be alot better

We got worse thanks to this system lol.

We played semi final at World Cup 2002 and semi final at EURO 2008. Now we cant even qualify for these tournaments lool.

You've only had the rule for 1 or 2 years and your national team has been performing badly for longer than that.

I don't think a rule for a few players of your own nationality is bad if it's coupled with a requirement to invest into your youth academy. Otherwise it won't work anwyay.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 08 2014 20:18 GMT
#16549
Ahh play offs such a magical time :D
I mean Brighton on paper miles away from these 3 teams, big financial backgrounds and 2 very experienced managers. Yet Brighton showing their strength with a close game.

I think Derby vs Wigan final and then its 50-50. Id rather Derby go up as they have better fan base and can actually sell their ground out for a game xD
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 08 2014 21:48 GMT
#16550
So has anyone confirmed that Barca will cleaning house this transfer?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
May 08 2014 22:19 GMT
#16551
If the "B" teams are required to be heavy majority of homegrown players then I can see it being good for England and good for the elite clubs.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
May 09 2014 04:27 GMT
#16552
On May 09 2014 03:31 Craze wrote:
Not a fan of the last bullet, or the timeline for this. England's academies need significant reform and I don't see them able to introduce enough quality by 2022 to keep the league at the current level since you have to start at very young ages. England doesn't produce the technical players that other countries do from their academies.

Soccernomics makes the argument that England has consistently punched above its weight already.

edit: After listening to that interview I noticed the FA chair seems to get some pretty important facts wrong.

Show nested quote +
If you look across Europe, the B teams don’t always all finish top of the league. That’s not what happens.

The Barcelona B team doesn’t beat teams in the lower league, they finished 16th this year I believe.


Barca B is in 3rd.


http://www.lfp.es/liga-adelante

FC Barcelona B is the B-Team of FC Barcelona. And they play "Liga Adelante", which is 2nd.

Facts wrong heh?
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DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
May 09 2014 06:45 GMT
#16553
He ment Barca B is 3rd in the league I think.
But does it djent?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9925 Posts
May 09 2014 07:55 GMT
#16554
On May 09 2014 05:18 Pandemona wrote:
Ahh play offs such a magical time :D
I mean Brighton on paper miles away from these 3 teams, big financial backgrounds and 2 very experienced managers. Yet Brighton showing their strength with a close game.

I think Derby vs Wigan final and then its 50-50. Id rather Derby go up as they have better fan base and can actually sell their ground out for a game xD


Derby can go and fuck themselves.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 09 2014 07:56 GMT
#16555
On May 09 2014 16:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 05:18 Pandemona wrote:
Ahh play offs such a magical time :D
I mean Brighton on paper miles away from these 3 teams, big financial backgrounds and 2 very experienced managers. Yet Brighton showing their strength with a close game.

I think Derby vs Wigan final and then its 50-50. Id rather Derby go up as they have better fan base and can actually sell their ground out for a game xD


Derby can go and fuck themselves.


Ahahahah
But i like playing vs Teams who can sell out their 30,000 stadiums
Even if Derby's is called something stupid lol.
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Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
May 09 2014 09:14 GMT
#16556
Derby play beautiful, attacking football as well, and that's what's most important in the end
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 09:33:44
May 09 2014 09:33 GMT
#16557
Id like them to get promoted again so Bamford can get some premier league experience under his belt. That kid can score at any level will make him one of the great England strikers and Chelsea
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9925 Posts
May 09 2014 10:01 GMT
#16558
On May 09 2014 18:33 Pandemona wrote:
Id like them to get promoted again so Bamford can get some premier league experience under his belt. That kid can score at any level will make him one of the great England strikers and Chelsea

Can't believe we sold him to you lot instead of offering him a place in the 1st team and a new contract. He even said he would stay if offered one.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9925 Posts
May 09 2014 10:02 GMT
#16559
On May 09 2014 18:14 Pads wrote:
Derby play beautiful, attacking football as well, and that's what's most important in the end


Derby are utter fucking cunts.
That's what matters to me.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 09 2014 12:41 GMT
#16560
On May 09 2014 19:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 18:33 Pandemona wrote:
Id like them to get promoted again so Bamford can get some premier league experience under his belt. That kid can score at any level will make him one of the great England strikers and Chelsea

Can't believe we sold him to you lot instead of offering him a place in the 1st team and a new contract. He even said he would stay if offered one.



Yeah another mistake by your club >.<
He is so good!
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