EPT2013 - 2014 Football Thread - Page 244
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On September 10 2013 23:24 UdderChaos wrote: Lambert should be 3rd choice behind Rooney and welbeck tbh. He's been great so far in the qualifiers. As for Gerrard, i really wish the media would stop saying hes better than he is. One pundit compared him to a quarterback in terms of importantce and making plays, me and my brother who watch NFL laughed out loud. Hes not that good, he scores nice goals out of no-where which is very useful, and he tried amazing long balls all the time that pundits fail to mention, which results in one amazing pass every now and then. In terms of tackling and intelligent midfield play hes mediocre at best these days. Sorry but the England punditry on gerrard really gets on my nerves. He gives the ball away far to often, and gets picked out as motm because he scores a great goal or an amazing assist, but the rest of his play is so sub-par. It's because 90% of pundits are Liverpool fans or ex Liverpool players  He used to be really good but he gets shoved back down the field now and just plays with good old English pride/courage now which obviously is no where near the level you need to be to ranked alongside the best in his position (Xavi Iniesta Pirlo etcetc) But when he could get up and down he was one of the best in that position, would score goals for fun whilst setting up strikers, now its just glimpses xD | ||
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
On September 10 2013 23:41 Pandemona wrote: It's because 90% of pundits are Liverpool fans or ex Liverpool players He used to be really good but he gets shoved back down the field now and just plays with good old English pride/courage now which obviously is no where near the level you need to be to ranked alongside the best in his position (Xavi Iniesta Pirlo etcetc) But when he could get up and down he was one of the best in that position, would score goals for fun whilst setting up strikers, now its just glimpses xD There no doubt he was world class, but he is a two dimensional player. He scores great goals from no-where and had amazing vision with long ball passes. What bothers me is that hes lost that long range pass precision and his overall play isn't as good, so it's really shown up for what it is. And when on the pitch hes a ghost who looses the ball lots and his team mates give thier all, he makes 1 pass or scores one goal and gets motm and said to be England's heart and soul ect. Its like, really? Like the last game, Lambert is an old man, whos come into the squad, gave an amazing assist and brilliant positioning gave to two goals, and gerrad gets motm purely for being England captain it seems. But yeah England's pundits are awful, just because you can kick a ball doesn't mean you understand football. Why players often don't make good mangers (see alan shearer). I wonder, to you other Europeans, how is your punditry in other European countries? | ||
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mAKiTO
Colombia4171 Posts
should be a fun game at Montevideo. Colombia needs 1 point and its in for sure at Brazil. Uruguay HAS to win this to keep their dream alive! the last 3 qualifiers uruguay has rapaed us hard  lol but this year we will show this charruas how to dance like pablito armero!! | ||
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sharkie
Austria18635 Posts
On September 10 2013 23:03 DarkLordOlli wrote: Austria's group could be decided today. If Austria and Ireland draw while Sweden wins, Germany and Sweden are pretty much confirmed through Austria still has a chance to secure second place themselves if we beat Ireland today, Sweden later (we beat Sweden 2-1 at home) and then don't mess up our last game against the Faroe Islands who have historically been our worst enemy I dont think we have to beat Sweden even, do we? A draw would be enough if Sweden loses to Germany. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On September 10 2013 23:54 sharkie wrote: I dont think we have to beat Sweden even, do we? A draw would be enough if Sweden loses to Germany. Yeah but then we wouldn't be securing 2nd place ourselves, we'd need Germany | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On September 10 2013 23:21 Sated wrote: If they line up the same way they did against Moldova, which was essentially a 4-1-4-1, then I'll be pretty happy. It will be good to see some consistency. The only change seems to be Welbeck for Milner, which I agree with given that Welbeck isn't a bloody winger and given that Milner will offer a stronger defensive presence against what will be stronger opposition. EDIT: Interestingly, my current FM2013 game has predicted that Belgium will win the World Cup, with Argentina in second place and Holland in third place. More shockingly, England won a penalty shoot-out! =P Whenever that happens I usually just quit the game and restart over. I'm sorry but that just isn't realistic. | ||
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DaMuffinman
Germany1705 Posts
On September 11 2013 00:13 DarkLordOlli wrote: Yeah but then we wouldn't be securing 2nd place ourselves, we'd need Germany You can count on us! We 4-0'ed them easily last game in the first 60 minutes! Oh wait... | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
On September 10 2013 23:49 UdderChaos wrote: There no doubt he was world class, but he is a two dimensional player. He scores great goals from no-where and had amazing vision with long ball passes. What bothers me is that hes lost that long range pass precision and his overall play isn't as good, so it's really shown up for what it is. And when on the pitch hes a ghost who looses the ball lots and his team mates give thier all, he makes 1 pass or scores one goal and gets motm and said to be England's heart and soul ect. Its like, really? Like the last game, Lambert is an old man, whos come into the squad, gave an amazing assist and brilliant positioning gave to two goals, and gerrad gets motm purely for being England captain it seems. But yeah England's pundits are awful, just because you can kick a ball doesn't mean you understand football. Why players often don't make good mangers (see alan shearer). I wonder, to you other Europeans, how is your punditry in other European countries? He is fucking class is what he is. His passing range is excellent, he has a mean tackle, and he is still a big goal threat. Im gonna go out on a limb and guess you guys don´t watch many Liverpool games, because after a rocky start to last season Gerrard has been insanely good for almost a year straight now. If it wasn´t for the absolutely ridiculous performances he has put in over the years he would have been praised alot more lately, but people still expect him to maraud around like the unstoppable force he used to be. When you say he is a ghost on the field you are just bullshitting/fishing. He is leading by doing and he never hides. Playing Moldova is no big test, but the performance he put in was simply sublime. Dumb game to berate him for. Here is a video with bad music and good footie.. His last club game? Oh yeah that was when he put in an amazing defensive shift against the defending champions after whipping in the corner that lead to the goal. Just writing about the man makes me smile, what a player. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On September 10 2013 23:49 UdderChaos wrote: What bothers me is that hes lost that long range pass precision and his overall play isn't as good, so it's really shown up for what it is. No. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2320648/Premier-League-long-passes-stats-No-Steven-Gerrard-10-Mousa-Dembele-leads.html 303 of 393 long passes completed, 109 more than the next highest player, I'd say that's pretty good. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8858 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On September 11 2013 01:17 Sated wrote: It was against France. Maybe France just surrendered..? That's realistic :3 Ah that explains it That is indeed realistic. On September 10 2013 23:49 UdderChaos wrote: But yeah England's pundits are awful, just because you can kick a ball doesn't mean you understand football. Why players often don't make good mangers (see alan shearer). I wonder, to you other Europeans, how is your punditry in other European countries? Dutch punditry in general is poor to mediocre, but occasionally you get guys like van Marwijk or Hiddink giving their thoughts on champions league or Eredivise games which shoots up the level to some of the best around. Especially Hiddink's knowledge is just incredible. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18635 Posts
I am now quite sad, they have so much potential! | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
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wingpawn
Poland1342 Posts
Against Poland, of course... Also, Malta scored as well, Luxembourg leads 3-2 against Northern Ireland. Small countries hwaiting! | ||
RvB
Netherlands6273 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18635 Posts
But I really dislike how the commentator was not nice to Arnautovic. Leitgeb as way way worse Thank you Prohaska, at least someone has seen that Arnautovic gave his best today | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
England so shite >.< When a draw vs Ukraine is a good result you know the international team isn't so good XD Oh well, maybe we could still fluke it with 2 wins from 2....maybe lol. I still think Poland will make or break England. They will play better vs us than Ukraine but hopefully Ukraine play as bad as they did vs England vs them so it's alot easier. Oh well... | ||
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