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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
January 17 2013 21:23 GMT
#4521
Victor Valdes, Barcelona's first team Goal keeper, just announced through his agents that he will not be renewing his contract that expires on 2014. According to sources of the team, after the "surrealist" meeting, his agents said that he did not want to continue on the team thus no point in renewing his contract.

This comes as a shock, but I can't say I'm surprised? He said some days ago, that he will talk about his future soon, and in time. And he just did. What do you guys think?
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
January 17 2013 21:26 GMT
#4522
On January 18 2013 06:23 funkie wrote:
Victor Valdes, Barcelona's first team Goal keeper, just announced through his agents that he will not be renewing his contract that expires on 2014. According to sources of the team, after the "surrealist" meeting, his agents said that he did not want to continue on the team thus no point in renewing his contract.

This comes as a shock, but I can't say I'm surprised? He said some days ago, that he will talk about his future soon, and in time. And he just did. What do you guys think?


I wouldn't know why a keeper would want out of barca, this barca.
Any info on this?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
January 17 2013 21:32 GMT
#4523
On January 18 2013 06:23 funkie wrote:
Victor Valdes, Barcelona's first team Goal keeper, just announced through his agents that he will not be renewing his contract that expires on 2014. According to sources of the team, after the "surrealist" meeting, his agents said that he did not want to continue on the team thus no point in renewing his contract.

This comes as a shock, but I can't say I'm surprised? He said some days ago, that he will talk about his future soon, and in time. And he just did. What do you guys think?

WTF? The only reason why people think that he's a semi-decent goalkeeper is because he plays for Barça, the only club that he won't actually do any goalkeeping work. And he won't renew his contract? Where will he go to? A Championship division club? I don't think he will last long in the Premiership, Serie A or Bundesliga.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
January 17 2013 21:35 GMT
#4524
He probably thinks he deserves the same salary as Xavi, Iniesta and co.

What a greedy person, he should be grateful he was born in the right place at the right time and be part of this team.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 17 2013 22:26 GMT
#4525
Valdés has always said he doesn't enjoy playing football. It's just his job. If he didn't get paid so well he would work elsewhere and football would not even be his hobby.

I would say he's most likely gonna go to some rusian/whatever bad team to get paid a lot, like other old dudes are doing before retiring... Or just retire. That's what I would do anyway.
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 22:45:22
January 17 2013 22:44 GMT
#4526
I dont get why people think hes so bad. Ok he had some gaffes, every keeper has those in his locker and more so than he does. His early years were pertty mediocre, even Ill attest to that but he was suceeding people like Bonano, Vitor Baia and that guy with the warp paint Rustu and still looked comparitively competent. He is certainly in his early years Barca werent spoilt for choice.

Fact is now though the way his team plays hes either sitting around reading newspapers or hes being tested by a one on one or some ridiculous situation most keepers never expect to find themselves in.

Hes a decent shotstopper, has the reflexes and generally does a legit job. Cant really say hes the best around because his team is so good he doesnt get tested often enough. But lets face it, hes got Zamora trophy after zamora trophy in a league which has Iker Casilllas and gets about a 10th of the recognition. He must be doing something right, and its just not being at Barcelona.

Maybe that does bother him ? Maybe he doesnt give a shit anymore. Its perfectly possible. Again as is for most of the palyers in their team he fits well. His distribution is excellent and in the modern game and in Barca in particular when your playing sweeper as often he does you need it. I dont think any other keeper is as good a passer as he is. Atleast not of the top of my head.

Problem is thats not his job, and no one will ever give him any due credit for it. Which isnt really fair. Just ask an Arsenal fan how they tear their hair out everytime the Pol they have between the poles kicks it up the field with miserable accuracy.

But yeah it does seem like he wants to cash in. So whatever works. Any other team may not have such a problem but Barca would have a hard time replacing him, immediately.

sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 17 2013 23:39 GMT
#4527
I don't understand why there wasn't a premier league team willing to pay 6.2 million for sneijder :S
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
January 18 2013 01:35 GMT
#4528
On January 18 2013 07:44 Rebs wrote:
I dont get why people think hes so bad. Ok he had some gaffes, every keeper has those in his locker and more so than he does. His early years were pertty mediocre, even Ill attest to that but he was suceeding people like Bonano, Vitor Baia and that guy with the warp paint Rustu and still looked comparitively competent. He is certainly in his early years Barca werent spoilt for choice.

Fact is now though the way his team plays hes either sitting around reading newspapers or hes being tested by a one on one or some ridiculous situation most keepers never expect to find themselves in.

Hes a decent shotstopper, has the reflexes and generally does a legit job. Cant really say hes the best around because his team is so good he doesnt get tested often enough. But lets face it, hes got Zamora trophy after zamora trophy in a league which has Iker Casilllas and gets about a 10th of the recognition. He must be doing something right, and its just not being at Barcelona.

Maybe that does bother him ? Maybe he doesnt give a shit anymore. Its perfectly possible. Again as is for most of the palyers in their team he fits well. His distribution is excellent and in the modern game and in Barca in particular when your playing sweeper as often he does you need it. I dont think any other keeper is as good a passer as he is. Atleast not of the top of my head.

Problem is thats not his job, and no one will ever give him any due credit for it. Which isnt really fair. Just ask an Arsenal fan how they tear their hair out everytime the Pol they have between the poles kicks it up the field with miserable accuracy.

But yeah it does seem like he wants to cash in. So whatever works. Any other team may not have such a problem but Barca would have a hard time replacing him, immediately.




Spot on. Very good analysis of the situation.

May I add that, even thought I do feel grateful to him, because he has had some spectacular saves for us in the past, I just never thought he is THAT good?. Is like a friend and I were saying, he's won the zamora, because he plays on a team where he's the first man, and the other 10 are possibly the best, or top3-5-10 in their position worldwide. Maybe we didn't appreciated him enough.

And yes, there's no other keeper that plays the ball with his feet like Valdes does, we might have some "trouble" trying to find a replacement for him. Maybe give a chance to one of the canteranos? maybe find someone else out there? We'll see. We got 1.5years until he leaves, but I'm sure they will sell him before that, they are probably going for the cash now that he just "refused" to even talk about a renewal.

Bye Valdes.
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 02:22:07
January 18 2013 02:21 GMT
#4529
On January 18 2013 10:35 funkie wrote:
And yes, there's no other keeper that plays the ball with his feet like Valdes does, we might have some "trouble" trying to find a replacement for him.


Stekelenburg! Very underrated keeper imo. Great with his feet, started out the first few years of his footballing carreer as a field player. Any Ajax keeper has to be great with his feet. Anyway, I think he was one of the absolute best goalkeepers in the World Cup 2010.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 18 2013 06:21 GMT
#4530
Apparently the logo will be moved "south" an inch, the deal is said to be $12.5 million dollars over the five year agreement.

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 18 2013 08:37 GMT
#4531
What team is that Stealth?

On the Valdes situation i think it's good to freshen things up, and the rumours were coming out earlier this week that Liverpool have been sniffing around Valdes, so i guess this is the reason why.
Im sure Barca would prefer to cash in on him and buy a new keeper.

Just though for a second, for those people who think Valdes is "good", how about if they had a Casials/Buffon/Cech in their goal, how much BETTER would Barca be?...
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 18 2013 08:58 GMT
#4532
On January 18 2013 08:39 sc4k wrote:
I don't understand why there wasn't a premier league team willing to pay 6.2 million for sneijder :S


I think it's more the wages, doubt there are more than 2-3 teams in england who can afford to pay him.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 18 2013 10:56 GMT
#4533
On January 18 2013 17:37 Pandemona wrote:
What team is that Stealth?


Sporting Kansas City from the MLS.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 18 2013 10:57 GMT
#4534
Thanks!
Wow tis a huge money deal that!
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hns
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany609 Posts
January 18 2013 11:06 GMT
#4535
On January 18 2013 11:21 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 10:35 funkie wrote:
And yes, there's no other keeper that plays the ball with his feet like Valdes does, we might have some "trouble" trying to find a replacement for him.


Stekelenburg! Very underrated keeper imo. Great with his feet, started out the first few years of his footballing carreer as a field player. Any Ajax keeper has to be great with his feet. Anyway, I think he was one of the absolute best goalkeepers in the World Cup 2010.


There's also a whole generation of young german goalkeepers who are specifically trained to be good with the ball (ter Stegen, Zieler, Neuer, Adler, Trapp.. sorry if I forgot any one).
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2742 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 11:20:23
January 18 2013 11:12 GMT
#4536
On January 18 2013 17:37 Pandemona wrote:
Just though for a second, for those people who think Valdes is "good", how about if they had a Casials/Buffon/Cech in their goal, how much BETTER would Barca be?...


I think Casillas has been the best goalkeeper this last years.

But I think he would not fit in Barcelona playstyle, He has great reflexes and he is great with the hands, but he is pettry bad with the feets, almost any other Top goalkeeper is best that him in that aspect. And Barcelona needs a golakeeper like Valdes that help the team in his play.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 18 2013 11:44 GMT
#4537
Hmm i guess so, but i don't think it would be that bad if they were to get a keeper like Casillas ! But if they wanted to groom a top world class young keeper, they should try and buy Cortios of Chelsea (currently at A.Madrid on loan) guy is going to be an amazing world class keeper.

Also i think they will need to find some good young keepers to groom that might be ready. Already said people like Neuer and Stekelenburg are the types they need, but i see on Stekelenburgbeing available.

However reports in England suggest Stekelenburg is off to Fulham ^_^
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
January 18 2013 12:03 GMT
#4538
Valdés announcing that in January is really disrespectful... This 'strategy' of showing his availability before summer comes so he can negociate sooner is really bad for the club... If he starts making one or two mistakes, this time he won't be forgiven because everybody is gonna think he's just a greedy guy and isn't thinking about his job in Barcelona anymore :/
I can understand his will to try another country but announcing that in January when his contract ends in June 2014 is just stupid!

Concerning his level, as some people said before, I think he's great for Barcelona, and among the top goalkeepers of these last years. He makes some mistakes every year, like every goalkeeper (just look at Casillas this season), but most of the time he's very good and saved the Barca many times by the past (hello 2006 CL finals).

So if he starts to mess up, we'll be stuck between Valdés playing and the public boo'ing him or having Pinto playing and regret it after 2 games
The young goalkeepers of the cantera aren't really good, Oier is meh, Masip is better but hasn't been playing a lot for the second team, and the others are too young. So I guess they will have to find a new one, and more likely a spanish one, so maybe Reina, De Gea or Guaita.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 18 2013 12:51 GMT
#4539
Oh yeah, rumours in papers that Barca want De Gea forgot to add his name into the mix.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 12:52:05
January 18 2013 12:51 GMT
#4540
Nigel Adkins sacked by Southampton; replaced by Mauricio Pochettino.
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