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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 08 2015 18:54 GMT
#3681
On July 09 2015 03:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
Interesting. I'm getting a new contract so the 1+1 doesn't really interest me at the moment. Wouldn't be paying full price for either the Galaxy 6 or the M9. Although I guess even going with the Galaxy 5 would still be an upgrade over my 4. Probably wouldn't get the M8 because the lack of expandable memory is disappointing. Also I didn't know you can't replace the battery on Galaxies anymore, that's super lame. The S6 took away two of my favorite features of the phone...

The M8 supports expandable memory just fine?

You're right, it was the M7 that didn't. My mistake.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 08 2015 18:56 GMT
#3682
On July 09 2015 03:27 Numy wrote:
If you want control deck but don't have cards for warrior/warlock check out Priest/Mage decks. Lots of epics but not many legendaries.

I do enjoy Freeze Mage, getting Alex for that sounds like a decent shot, no?

On July 09 2015 03:41 Alaric wrote:
I went for Flamewaker+Freeze, 'cause I never play Mage, and I expected that to give me greatly enhanced tempo, on top of stall and clear (Blizzard + Flamestrike) to keep the pressure going.

I was sarcastic Req, Leeroy isn't that good now, 6 damage for 5 and one card is really meh, that's like putting a 3rd Kill Command in your deck.

Seems that most Face Hunter decks are actually still using him, if the internet is to be believed. Plus, you say "3rd Kill Command" as if it's a bad thing
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 08 2015 19:00 GMT
#3683
On July 09 2015 03:56 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 03:27 Numy wrote:
If you want control deck but don't have cards for warrior/warlock check out Priest/Mage decks. Lots of epics but not many legendaries.

I do enjoy Freeze Mage, getting Alex for that sounds like a decent shot, no?

Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 03:41 Alaric wrote:
I went for Flamewaker+Freeze, 'cause I never play Mage, and I expected that to give me greatly enhanced tempo, on top of stall and clear (Blizzard + Flamestrike) to keep the pressure going.

I was sarcastic Req, Leeroy isn't that good now, 6 damage for 5 and one card is really meh, that's like putting a 3rd Kill Command in your deck.

Seems that most Face Hunter decks are actually still using him, if the internet is to be believed. Plus, you say "3rd Kill Command" as if it's a bad thing


3rd Kill Command for +3 mana
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 08 2015 19:02 GMT
#3684
On July 09 2015 04:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 03:56 Requizen wrote:
On July 09 2015 03:27 Numy wrote:
If you want control deck but don't have cards for warrior/warlock check out Priest/Mage decks. Lots of epics but not many legendaries.

I do enjoy Freeze Mage, getting Alex for that sounds like a decent shot, no?

On July 09 2015 03:41 Alaric wrote:
I went for Flamewaker+Freeze, 'cause I never play Mage, and I expected that to give me greatly enhanced tempo, on top of stall and clear (Blizzard + Flamestrike) to keep the pressure going.

I was sarcastic Req, Leeroy isn't that good now, 6 damage for 5 and one card is really meh, that's like putting a 3rd Kill Command in your deck.

Seems that most Face Hunter decks are actually still using him, if the internet is to be believed. Plus, you say "3rd Kill Command" as if it's a bad thing


3rd Kill Command for +3 mana

Doesn't require a Beast and +1 damage. Worth.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 08 2015 19:03 GMT
#3685
Well yeah I'd rather get Sylvanas next or something. I'd take Ragnaros or Ysera but they haven't been that used in ages, and others would be class legendaries, or still restricted ones (like Alex who's mainly a Warrior/Mage Legendary).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
July 08 2015 19:14 GMT
#3686
On July 08 2015 23:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Also, what are you thinking about structure-wise, LT? Like, are you gonna do a live class? Or just give us reading/drawing assignments and have us submit for your evaluation?

Probably the latter since Numy is in a different timezone and there may be #timezone issues, but if you prefer live classes I can try and do that too.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 19:20:33
July 08 2015 19:19 GMT
#3687
Slyvanas is pretty much a first priority legendary. I rank her higher than Boom, because Slyvanas is significantly more essential than Boom in a control deck, and there are quite a few decks that don't run Boom because they can completely dodge BGH (Paladin, Priest, Rogue, etc).

Alexstraza is for control Mage/Warrior decks (no other class runs her with any frequency). If you want to play Freeze Mage, it's fine: Freeze Mage is decent in the meta, outside of Warriors and the armoring up, but that's w/e since they're all Patrons and aren't running 20 free armor/health up (which is what really shafts Mage vs Control Warrior; I've won a handful of games in that matchup total, which generally involved me being able to stall out enough to draw my entire deck and throw absolutely everything at his face).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 08 2015 19:20 GMT
#3688
On July 09 2015 03:28 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 02:58 Seuss wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:35 Eppa! wrote:
Why does blizz keep making mage brawls?


I've been rocking Priest for this brawl and it's pretty ridiculous. Priest has so many spells for removing minions and gets such value for playing them that it's actually hard to compete, plus with Mind Vision and Thoughtsteal you can get all sorts of useful spells from your opponent too. Then if the game goes late Mind Control is just game-ending since you get either a Sea Giant or Deathwing in addition to taking whatever your opponent has.

This is probably my favorite Brawl so far. It encourages a near-pure spell deck which means most classes are going to pull out spells that haven't been seen in serious play for ages.

The sad thing about freeze mage is that it does not drop many minions. So all deck playing against become to slow to rush it which also is augmented with the fact that every clear gives you board presence.

I play basically a standard freeze mage with bgh and 2 flamestrikes and pyro no antonidas. It counter every other "good deck.


Freeze Mage is good but I think you're overselling it a bit. At the very least Druid probably hard-counters it if they run Healing Touch and/or Tree of Life.

Any idea if Counterspell stops the minion from spawning?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 19:24:37
July 08 2015 19:22 GMT
#3689
On July 09 2015 04:20 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 03:28 Eppa! wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:58 Seuss wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:35 Eppa! wrote:
Why does blizz keep making mage brawls?


I've been rocking Priest for this brawl and it's pretty ridiculous. Priest has so many spells for removing minions and gets such value for playing them that it's actually hard to compete, plus with Mind Vision and Thoughtsteal you can get all sorts of useful spells from your opponent too. Then if the game goes late Mind Control is just game-ending since you get either a Sea Giant or Deathwing in addition to taking whatever your opponent has.

This is probably my favorite Brawl so far. It encourages a near-pure spell deck which means most classes are going to pull out spells that haven't been seen in serious play for ages.

The sad thing about freeze mage is that it does not drop many minions. So all deck playing against become to slow to rush it which also is augmented with the fact that every clear gives you board presence.

I play basically a standard freeze mage with bgh and 2 flamestrikes and pyro no antonidas. It counter every other "good deck.


Freeze Mage is good but I think you're overselling it a bit. At the very least Druid probably hard-counters it if they run Healing Touch and/or Tree of Life.

Any idea if Counterspell stops the minion from spawning?

1) Druid never runs Tree of Life, and you still have enough burn in any freeze mage deck to kill a Druid running it.

2) Freeze Mage runs enough burn to get around Healing Touch/multiple healbots. It's just a matter of getting an extra turn to play said burn (either Antonidas or Malygos or Thalnos->frost bolt/ice lance combo [if you run the sorc apprentice variant, Thalnos->double sorc, x2fireballs/frost bolt/ice lance is 28 damage in 1 turn]).

Druid is a hard matchup, but not because of the healing (it's because Druid with board control can burst you down before you get the time to combo them, and they usually run Loatheb).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 08 2015 19:23 GMT
#3690
On July 09 2015 04:20 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 03:28 Eppa! wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:58 Seuss wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:35 Eppa! wrote:
Why does blizz keep making mage brawls?


I've been rocking Priest for this brawl and it's pretty ridiculous. Priest has so many spells for removing minions and gets such value for playing them that it's actually hard to compete, plus with Mind Vision and Thoughtsteal you can get all sorts of useful spells from your opponent too. Then if the game goes late Mind Control is just game-ending since you get either a Sea Giant or Deathwing in addition to taking whatever your opponent has.

This is probably my favorite Brawl so far. It encourages a near-pure spell deck which means most classes are going to pull out spells that haven't been seen in serious play for ages.

The sad thing about freeze mage is that it does not drop many minions. So all deck playing against become to slow to rush it which also is augmented with the fact that every clear gives you board presence.

I play basically a standard freeze mage with bgh and 2 flamestrikes and pyro no antonidas. It counter every other "good deck.


Freeze Mage is good but I think you're overselling it a bit. At the very least Druid probably hard-counters it if they run Healing Touch and/or Tree of Life.

Any idea if Counterspell stops the minion from spawning?


Does Counterspell stop Pyromancer from proccing?
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 19:25:48
July 08 2015 19:24 GMT
#3691
On July 09 2015 04:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 04:20 Seuss wrote:
On July 09 2015 03:28 Eppa! wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:58 Seuss wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:35 Eppa! wrote:
Why does blizz keep making mage brawls?


I've been rocking Priest for this brawl and it's pretty ridiculous. Priest has so many spells for removing minions and gets such value for playing them that it's actually hard to compete, plus with Mind Vision and Thoughtsteal you can get all sorts of useful spells from your opponent too. Then if the game goes late Mind Control is just game-ending since you get either a Sea Giant or Deathwing in addition to taking whatever your opponent has.

This is probably my favorite Brawl so far. It encourages a near-pure spell deck which means most classes are going to pull out spells that haven't been seen in serious play for ages.

The sad thing about freeze mage is that it does not drop many minions. So all deck playing against become to slow to rush it which also is augmented with the fact that every clear gives you board presence.

I play basically a standard freeze mage with bgh and 2 flamestrikes and pyro no antonidas. It counter every other "good deck.


Freeze Mage is good but I think you're overselling it a bit. At the very least Druid probably hard-counters it if they run Healing Touch and/or Tree of Life.

Any idea if Counterspell stops the minion from spawning?

Does Counterspell stop Pyromancer from proccing?

Yes.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 19:34:47
July 08 2015 19:31 GMT
#3692
On July 09 2015 04:20 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 03:28 Eppa! wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:58 Seuss wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:35 Eppa! wrote:
Why does blizz keep making mage brawls?


I've been rocking Priest for this brawl and it's pretty ridiculous. Priest has so many spells for removing minions and gets such value for playing them that it's actually hard to compete, plus with Mind Vision and Thoughtsteal you can get all sorts of useful spells from your opponent too. Then if the game goes late Mind Control is just game-ending since you get either a Sea Giant or Deathwing in addition to taking whatever your opponent has.

This is probably my favorite Brawl so far. It encourages a near-pure spell deck which means most classes are going to pull out spells that haven't been seen in serious play for ages.

The sad thing about freeze mage is that it does not drop many minions. So all deck playing against become to slow to rush it which also is augmented with the fact that every clear gives you board presence.

I play basically a standard freeze mage with bgh and 2 flamestrikes and pyro no antonidas. It counter every other "good deck.


Freeze Mage is good but I think you're overselling it a bit. At the very least Druid probably hard-counters it if they run Healing Touch and/or Tree of Life.

Any idea if Counterspell stops the minion from spawning?

Nah its better than you expect because every time you clear you put out threats unlike regular freeze mage. This is deck the I am using. The hardest match so far was priest that got 2 iceblocks, flamestrike and blizzard.

Edit: I am currently 6-0 with freeze mage, Brawl always has a lot of scrubs but 3 of those I had poor answers.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 19:41:03
July 08 2015 19:40 GMT
#3693
On July 09 2015 04:22 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 04:20 Seuss wrote:
On July 09 2015 03:28 Eppa! wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:58 Seuss wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:35 Eppa! wrote:
Why does blizz keep making mage brawls?


I've been rocking Priest for this brawl and it's pretty ridiculous. Priest has so many spells for removing minions and gets such value for playing them that it's actually hard to compete, plus with Mind Vision and Thoughtsteal you can get all sorts of useful spells from your opponent too. Then if the game goes late Mind Control is just game-ending since you get either a Sea Giant or Deathwing in addition to taking whatever your opponent has.

This is probably my favorite Brawl so far. It encourages a near-pure spell deck which means most classes are going to pull out spells that haven't been seen in serious play for ages.

The sad thing about freeze mage is that it does not drop many minions. So all deck playing against become to slow to rush it which also is augmented with the fact that every clear gives you board presence.

I play basically a standard freeze mage with bgh and 2 flamestrikes and pyro no antonidas. It counter every other "good deck.


Freeze Mage is good but I think you're overselling it a bit. At the very least Druid probably hard-counters it if they run Healing Touch and/or Tree of Life.

Any idea if Counterspell stops the minion from spawning?

1) Druid never runs Tree of Life, and you still have enough burn in any freeze mage deck to kill a Druid running it.

2) Freeze Mage runs enough burn to get around Healing Touch/multiple healbots. It's just a matter of getting an extra turn to play said burn (either Antonidas or Malygos or Thalnos->frost bolt/ice lance combo [if you run the sorc apprentice variant, Thalnos->double sorc, x2fireballs/frost bolt/ice lance is 28 damage in 1 turn]).

Druid is a hard matchup, but not because of the healing (it's because Druid with board control can burst you down before you get the time to combo them, and they usually run Loatheb).


We're talking about the brawl, where Tree of Life not only heals you to full but spawns a legendary minion. It doesn't really matter what's never done in constructed, Recycle is potentially good.

On July 09 2015 04:31 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 04:20 Seuss wrote:
On July 09 2015 03:28 Eppa! wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:58 Seuss wrote:
On July 09 2015 02:35 Eppa! wrote:
Why does blizz keep making mage brawls?


I've been rocking Priest for this brawl and it's pretty ridiculous. Priest has so many spells for removing minions and gets such value for playing them that it's actually hard to compete, plus with Mind Vision and Thoughtsteal you can get all sorts of useful spells from your opponent too. Then if the game goes late Mind Control is just game-ending since you get either a Sea Giant or Deathwing in addition to taking whatever your opponent has.

This is probably my favorite Brawl so far. It encourages a near-pure spell deck which means most classes are going to pull out spells that haven't been seen in serious play for ages.

The sad thing about freeze mage is that it does not drop many minions. So all deck playing against become to slow to rush it which also is augmented with the fact that every clear gives you board presence.

I play basically a standard freeze mage with bgh and 2 flamestrikes and pyro no antonidas. It counter every other "good deck.


Freeze Mage is good but I think you're overselling it a bit. At the very least Druid probably hard-counters it if they run Healing Touch and/or Tree of Life.

Any idea if Counterspell stops the minion from spawning?

Nah its better than you expect because every time you clear you put out threats unlike regular freeze mage. This is deck I have been using. The hardest match so far was priest that got 2 iceblocks, flamestrike and blizzard.

Edit: I am currently 6-0 with freeze mage, Brawl always have a lot of scrubs but 3 of those I had poor answers.


To be clear I'm not saying Freeze Mage is bad, just that it isn't the undisputed champion of this Brawl. What I've heard and seen so far is that Priest, Druid and Mage are the triumvirate of power classes this time around.

In Priest's case it's because it's so easy to get extreme value from its cards both early, mid, and late. For Druid it's because you get so many free minions that Savage Roar is always a supreme threat. Nobody should need to ask why Mage is up there.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 08 2015 19:46 GMT
#3694
I've been using Hearthpwn to peruse decks, is there a better place to get ideas from?
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 19:48:29
July 08 2015 19:48 GMT
#3695
On July 09 2015 04:46 Requizen wrote:
I've been using Hearthpwn to peruse decks, is there a better place to get ideas from?


Icy-veins isn't bad. I generally just google for whatever deck I want to play, pick a recently dated one and see what's in it.

edit - I mean... LIQUIDHEARTH. TOTALLY LIQUIDHEARTH
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
July 08 2015 19:50 GMT
#3696
On July 09 2015 04:46 Requizen wrote:
I've been using Hearthpwn to peruse decks, is there a better place to get ideas from?

Hearthpwn is like Mobafire. Just watch decklists of actual legendary players and you're good.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 08 2015 20:06 GMT
#3697
Roommate fixed the issue by getting a 100ft ethernet cable express shipped to our house. Was here by the morning. lel.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
July 08 2015 20:09 GMT
#3698
My new landlords increasing my rent by almost $400 for no reason might be less insulting if I didn't find an ad by them on Craigslist for an apartment identical (or better) than mine in my same building for $150 less than what they just quoted me.
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
July 08 2015 20:11 GMT
#3699
On July 09 2015 05:09 AsmodeusXI wrote:
My new landlords increasing my rent by almost $400 for no reason might be less insulting if I didn't find an ad by them on Craigslist for an apartment identical (or better) than mine in my same building for $150 less than what they just quoted me.


Obviously what you do is meet them under an alias and confront them on it. Plus if you're leased that's kind of against the law.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 08 2015 20:25 GMT
#3700
On July 09 2015 05:09 AsmodeusXI wrote:
My new landlords increasing my rent by almost $400 for no reason might be less insulting if I didn't find an ad by them on Craigslist for an apartment identical (or better) than mine in my same building for $150 less than what they just quoted me.


They're charging you more for having a UFO parked outside your window.
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