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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
December 02 2016 14:29 GMT
#30721
You make me want to do a reading stream wave
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 02 2016 16:32 GMT
#30722
Man I normally hate playing Shaman decks but I'm having a good time with Jade Controllerman.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 02 2016 16:45 GMT
#30723
Eh, I felt like the Rogue and Shaman Jade cards weren't good enough in general to include. Druid's Jade Idol is a wincon, Jadde Blossom is still useful (if a bit slower) when it only gives a 1/1, and the Behemoth could be decent is aggro didn't require it to cost 3 mana instead.
Rogue in particular feels miserable because Miracle is just superior for churning through your decks, their stealth 1/1 matches up super poorly, and if you want to use Shadowcaster, Brann, etc. it makes the deck super mana hungry.

Regarding the whole "only a couple relevant cards and rest is garbage", I feel like it's pretty different if you're looking at the previous archetypes strengthened, rather than just the ones supposed to be spawned by the expansion.
Pirate Warrior already existed but now it's good because of the new stuff, RenoMage and RenoLock get new toys, no idea about a potential RenoPriest (I doubt it, plus it'd mainly help Shadow Priest so it's a hell of a lot of conditions), Miracle Druid was already possible but MalyDruid was better at finishing the game, etc.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 02 2016 16:50 GMT
#30724
Oh Druid has the best Jade Golem cards by far, but Control Shaman got some nice toys that also tend to align nicely with the mechanic. The healy minion in particular is a really nice tool and is a solid body that they have to deal with while you continue to build golems.
It's your boy Guzma!
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-02 17:55:29
December 02 2016 17:54 GMT
#30725
I've seen some streamers and myself have some success with a jade miracle variants for rogue. I think shadowcasters are wrong for jade decks, at least, you'd also need to put in a lot of minions with more effect on the board. But stuff like brann and unearthed raptor are ok. They can be tempoed out and you don't need SI:agent when you have jade shuriken. Miracle package also has the benefit of giving you edwin for early game presence and making more barnes targets good.

All that said, I'm not sure it's actually any better than standard miracle. Sticky boards are cool and all but jade can't pull lethal out of it's arse like normal miracle can and is definitely way less aggressive.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-02 18:14:24
December 02 2016 18:10 GMT
#30726
Druids also do jade miracle but they have better jade cards and ramp. Maly rogue will still prob be the default rogue or questing. Jade doesn't seem good enough to warrant playing.

RenoMage isn't a real deck and I doubt it'll be one. I dislike these reno decks in the first place. So boring. The fact that one must be happy that Warlock has "renolock!" after they killed handlock is a bit disgusting.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
December 02 2016 18:24 GMT
#30727
On December 03 2016 03:10 Numy wrote:
Druids also do jade miracle but they have better jade cards and ramp. Maly rogue will still prob be the default rogue or questing. Jade doesn't seem good enough to warrant playing.

RenoMage isn't a real deck and I doubt it'll be one. I dislike these reno decks in the first place. So boring. The fact that one must be happy that Warlock has "renolock!" after they killed handlock is a bit disgusting.

b-b-but it's so exciting!
Is he gonna draw Reno by turn 6 against this aggro deck? Will he? Oh my GOSH the excitement is overwhelming
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 02 2016 18:28 GMT
#30728
Don't remind me of Handlock. I still mourn.
It's your boy Guzma!
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 02 2016 18:28 GMT
#30729
hey now there'll be at least two other one-of cards that are also good vs aggro

seeing one of those in the top 8-9 cards is almost at EV, certainly that means the deck is consistent and games don't just come down to luck
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 02 2016 18:46 GMT
#30730
On December 03 2016 03:10 Numy wrote:
Druids also do jade miracle but they have better jade cards and ramp. Maly rogue will still prob be the default rogue or questing. Jade doesn't seem good enough to warrant playing.

RenoMage isn't a real deck and I doubt it'll be one. I dislike these reno decks in the first place. So boring. The fact that one must be happy that Warlock has "renolock!" after they killed handlock is a bit disgusting.


In general Jade Anything seems very feast and famine. If you get a lot of jade cards early you'll win as long as you're not getting overrun by aggro/mid-range. Otherwise it's super iffy. Unless the meta goes super control-oriented the best Jade deck will likely be whichever one is strongest against aggressive decks, which might actually be Shaman since Druid and Rogue have problems with board clears.

I like Jade Rogue though if only because getting golems on the board then putting down Gang Up'd Swarmers/Aya and/or Raptors makes you immune to board clears and basically clinches the game.

As much as you may not like RenoMage, Kazakus, Solia, and Volcanic Potion are probably enough to make it legend-worthy. Kazakus is kind of ridiculous, he's like a controlled Yogg-Saron that you can set up way ahead of time.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-02 18:59:59
December 02 2016 18:56 GMT
#30731
Jade Druid can actually play like another Druid deck until pretty late, because a combo of Auctioneer+Jade Idol if you have enough cycle in your deck (and even better, if you manage to get a Thaurissan tick on a couple of Druid's super cheap spells) is enough to flood the board really hard and then every topdeck is basically a big creature.

You're going to have to cut cards for Oozes though, and possibly spell power or stuff so that you can more easily clear stuff. Thaurissan is probably amongst the first on the choping block, and maybe a Nourish of Fandral if there's enough aggro, which will make the deck less consistent, but since it has so much late game power you can maybe get away with it.
... actually maybe I'd even cut Aya if the plan ends up full-on "survive the aggro decks then grind the late game."
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-02 19:02:32
December 02 2016 18:57 GMT
#30732
The main problem with Renomage is that it has nothing to buffer the inconsistencies of a highlander deck. Mage does have a higher density of good spells so maybe that makes up for that.

Dog cut Aya and just went with Idol + Auctioneer as well as the ramp as lone jade stuff. He even cut idol down to 1.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 02 2016 19:22 GMT
#30733
I have no fucking clue what this game is about but it's going to be one of the things that pushes me to get a PS4.

It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 02 2016 19:48 GMT
#30734
On December 02 2016 22:35 Alaric wrote:
WAVSTRIM BACK???

I literally posted in Skype with a link to strim as you were talking in there.

Also I think I'm going to main symmetra. Gonna be one of those hipsters who gits gud with her and then be super mega awesome when the buffs go through.

This may or may not be inspired by the play of the game and gold elims/silver damage game I played last night
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 02 2016 20:04 GMT
#30735
Sometimes I forget just how stupid and self-centered people can be. Even when they're relatively intelligent people you work with.
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 02 2016 20:40 GMT
#30736
On December 03 2016 05:04 Requizen wrote:
Sometimes I forget just how stupid and self-centered people can be. Even when they're relatively intelligent people you work with.


I mean...you've been paying attention to 2016, haven't you?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 02 2016 20:58 GMT
#30737
On December 03 2016 05:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2016 05:04 Requizen wrote:
Sometimes I forget just how stupid and self-centered people can be. Even when they're relatively intelligent people you work with.


I mean...you've been paying attention to 2016, haven't you?

I've tried to forget. You just fool yourself into thinking that the people around you are exempt and then some fool opens their mouth.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sunaj
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada2041 Posts
December 02 2016 21:26 GMT
#30738
On December 03 2016 04:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2016 22:35 Alaric wrote:
WAVSTRIM BACK???

I literally posted in Skype with a link to strim as you were talking in there.

Also I think I'm going to main symmetra. Gonna be one of those hipsters who gits gud with her and then be super mega awesome when the buffs go through.

This may or may not be inspired by the play of the game and gold elims/silver damage game I played last night


Aye buddy, speaking of which. Tonight is FRIDAY so I can actually stay up late and play gaems, OW maybe maybe?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
December 02 2016 21:54 GMT
#30739
Man so, we had cultural week at the school right. And every classroom had a country to represent. And the USA rooms teacher asked me to assist.

And I'm all excited and I talk to the class a few times and tell them what to wear and what music to play and how to make pancakes and things, and they're setting up like basketball and a statue of liberty in the class for the culture fair.

And then while I'm out of the room teaching my own classes they put up a big picture of Trump.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
December 02 2016 22:08 GMT
#30740
On December 03 2016 06:54 Ketara wrote:
Man so, we had cultural week at the school right. And every classroom had a country to represent. And the USA rooms teacher asked me to assist.

And I'm all excited and I talk to the class a few times and tell them what to wear and what music to play and how to make pancakes and things, and they're setting up like basketball and a statue of liberty in the class for the culture fair.

And then while I'm out of the room teaching my own classes they put up a big picture of Trump.


sounds fun.
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