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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-18 23:00:40
November 18 2016 22:59 GMT
#30501
On November 19 2016 07:14 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
anyone think price for system/game might fall after christmas? I'm thinking of getting it but don't mind waiting

Black Friday N3DS is probably the best deal you're likely to get on the system for the near future, if you're lucky enough to get your hands on one.
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
November 18 2016 23:17 GMT
#30502
On November 19 2016 07:59 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2016 07:14 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
anyone think price for system/game might fall after christmas? I'm thinking of getting it but don't mind waiting

Black Friday N3DS is probably the best deal you're likely to get on the system for the near future, if you're lucky enough to get your hands on one.


I don't exactly do black friday. I'll check online though. and try the cyber monday thing
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 19 2016 00:04 GMT
#30503
On November 19 2016 08:17 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2016 07:59 TheYango wrote:
On November 19 2016 07:14 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
anyone think price for system/game might fall after christmas? I'm thinking of getting it but don't mind waiting

Black Friday N3DS is probably the best deal you're likely to get on the system for the near future, if you're lucky enough to get your hands on one.


I don't exactly do black friday. I'll check online though. and try the cyber monday thing

It's a 3DS, not some ridiculous door buster sale where they sell something at 30% but only have 10 of them.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
November 19 2016 00:19 GMT
#30504
On November 19 2016 09:04 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2016 08:17 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On November 19 2016 07:59 TheYango wrote:
On November 19 2016 07:14 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
anyone think price for system/game might fall after christmas? I'm thinking of getting it but don't mind waiting

Black Friday N3DS is probably the best deal you're likely to get on the system for the near future, if you're lucky enough to get your hands on one.


I don't exactly do black friday. I'll check online though. and try the cyber monday thing

It's a 3DS, not some ridiculous door buster sale where they sell something at 30% but only have 10 of them.



good point. I might drive to the local best buy to see.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-19 00:21:37
November 19 2016 00:21 GMT
#30505
It'll also be out on online retailers, though if past experience is any indication, those will sell out fast. Your local Best Buy will probably be a better bet than Amazon.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 19 2016 00:22 GMT
#30506
On November 19 2016 09:21 TheYango wrote:
It'll also be out on online retailers, though if past experience is any indication, those will sell out fast. Your local Best Buy will probably be a better bet than Amazon.

Target too.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 19 2016 00:44 GMT
#30507
Anyone have a Wii U? Thinking about checking for deals next week and upgrading from my 10 yr old Wii.
Primarily interested in what the best party and coop games are. Obviously that is the wii's forte but if there's not that many great ones I could pass.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 19 2016 01:15 GMT
#30508
On November 19 2016 09:44 mordek wrote:
Anyone have a Wii U? Thinking about checking for deals next week and upgrading from my 10 yr old Wii.
Primarily interested in what the best party and coop games are. Obviously that is the wii's forte but if there's not that many great ones I could pass.

When it comes to looking for things like that on a Nintendo product, I just look at sales figures.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Wii_U_video_games
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 19 2016 01:52 GMT
#30509
On November 19 2016 10:15 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2016 09:44 mordek wrote:
Anyone have a Wii U? Thinking about checking for deals next week and upgrading from my 10 yr old Wii.
Primarily interested in what the best party and coop games are. Obviously that is the wii's forte but if there's not that many great ones I could pass.

When it comes to looking for things like that on a Nintendo product, I just look at sales figures.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Wii_U_video_games

Also this: http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Wii_U
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-19 02:19:57
November 19 2016 02:19 GMT
#30510
i ordered the steel book bundle. playing moon though
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-19 02:51:56
November 19 2016 02:50 GMT
#30511
Quick'n'dirty draft.
I came late and there were already a 8-man "regulars" pod and a 6-man with newer guys... I offered not to draft but the 6 were cool with it, and despite it making half of them miss a game (by getting a bye) it also meant that the guy doing a draft for the first time had the 7th sit besides him during his games and coach him/explain the mechanics to him a bit to help him. I thought that was cool and welcoming. <3

Oh yeah, and a P3P11 Whirler Virtuoso, prob gonna require bleach for Wave and Yango.
+ Show Spoiler [draft] +
I know some of them were kinda new but I saw some weird stuff...

P1P1 Demon, P1P2 I get passed Cultivator of Blades. I choose Visionary Augmenter over it because I'm still obsessed with BW so why not? ... I'll P1P9 Cultivator when it wheels.
Later on when fixed on colours I open a pack with Harnessed Lightning and Welding Sparks, hng. Welding Sparks actually wheeled. Another wheeled on its own to, and 3 people were in R.

Overall I'll draft a slow, very grindy BW deck with 2x Restoration Gearsmith, 2x Self-Assembler, 2x Tidy Conclusion, 2x Subtle Strike, Aetherborn Marauder, Demon of Dark Schemes, Kambal, and the fabricate package of Propeller Pioneer / Visionary Augmenter, energy through Thriving Rats / Die Young, a pacifism, and random goggles thrown in.
One notable thing is that toward the end the good cards tended to all be in the same boosters, which made for some hard choices (picked Kambal over Revoke and Rush of Vitality P3P3, they both came back, but the previous booster had literally nothing for me in it).

Despite both my right neighbours in G, I think I should have been BG. I saw 2-3 Seedsculptors, 2 Hunt the Weak (one wheeled wtf), a Tiger, also picked Durable Handicraft, opened an Arborback Stomper, and with the Cultivator of Blades I had just as much removal as in my W. I also passed a somewhat early Armorcraft Judge.
Then splash a bit (Attune, a Wanderer, a Prism) for both Gearsmiths and call it a midrange beating.

Clockwise:
BW grind
RW (somewhat new guy, picked good stuff but low on creatures)
UW (didn't see much W but got fed U and he opened Dovin Baan so... )
BR grind (curve stops at 3 but lacks aggro)
BW weenies (not even sure he had more than 3 non-creature spells)
UG energy (nope, he didn't pick the Virtuoso... with 2x Empyreal Voyager, a Tiger, a Rhino, etc.)
RG beats (cub, 2x seedsculptor, rhino, a peema, arborback... for a first-timer he actually picked very decent cards and his curve was fine too, he fudged a bit on his colours and lacked creatures sadly)

+ Show Spoiler [matches] +
Match 1 vs BW weenies
+ Show Spoiler +
Didn't have much in the way of W, he indulged himself into most of the B, but... his deck was basically topping at 4 with Harrier, Ambitious Aetherborn and Master of Marionettes thrown on top of it.
He had nice artifact synergies with Operative, Embraal Bruiser, Daredevil, to go with Maulfist Squad, Iron-League Steed, Pillarbug, Chief of the Foundry, Cargo. Only non-creature spells I saw were Skywhaler's Shot and Die Young (nother energy sources).

Game 1 I get stuck on 4 mana for 4-5 turns, with only a single plains and Visionary, Conclusion and Demon in hand.
He plays t3 Screecher, t4 Cargo+Exemplar. Now if only I had a 5th mana all this time, I could have played a 3-drop + Subtle Strike to get rid of the Exemplar and block the Cargo. My pillarbug would become a 3/4, bigger than pretty much anything he plays (save for Master of Marionettes) and able to stabilise my life total.
Instead I'm screwed with 10 spells and 4 lands, only find something I can play (Gearsmith) when Pillarbug is dead, and he goes wide with Ambitious, Visionary making servos.
I passed a Make Obsolete in the draft, but granted if I could reach 6 mana (like he does, of course) the Demon would destroy is whole board save for the Ambitious Aetherborn, grant me 6+ energy, and stabilise by itself.
Na, still screwed, and when I get a 5th land for Conclusion it's far too late (he went wide anyway and my artifact creatures are dead). Kinda miffed I don't get to play.

Game 2 is again painful to get started, despite my 4-4-5 curve (2 to 4) it's hard to find stuff to play while he spams the board with little shits again.
I play a risky (because slow) plan of Pioneer into Marauder for the counter, making sure he'll be alive once I get a 6th land for the demon. Also topdeck my 2nd Self-Assembler turn 5 to deny me the value (woulda played Marauder anyway).
It kinda works, and I grow the Marauder (thanks Lawless Broker) to deny his Harrier, then start swinging to help my life total. He's wider than me but I'm bigger and Gearsmith + the demon's reanimation helps (I also go wide with fabricate to almost self-sustain said reanimation).
... then he drops Master of Marionettes with 3 artifact creatures in play. I have enough blockers that he doesn't swing this turn though. On my turn I reanimate Propeller for one Servo, swing with Marauder to gain some life, then survive his alpha strike by chumping my tokens to keep his artifacts alive and playing around tricks to save the demon. Crackback's lethal.
Less miffed, but still a bunch that I drew so little of my removal and still had issues finding my early drops.

Game 3 has me flooding hard early, all I can do is play Thriving Rats and t3 Subtle Strike just to kill his Exemplar.
In returns he's got the only card in his deck that can push through (no tricks, no energy for Die Young, but he gets Skywhaler's Shot).
Then of course I get stuck at 5 mana again with the Demon in my starting hand, and I only draw my 4 and 5-drops.
Time gets called and he kills me on his last turn because what are 2-3 mana spells?

I think my deck's much stronger if I can stabilise because my value synergies trump his artifact ones, and he doesn't have removal to break through a board (literally only creatures, wtf), but variance says "0K coming late put you in a lower level table that even had BW kinda opened for you to finally play, so the logical step's to balance this by preventing you from playing."
What surprises me is that he goes all-in into his go-wide strategy but when I mentioned the late Cultivator he called it bad and weak (due to the stats I assume). He shrugs when I point that a GW fabricate/wheeny deck with stuff like Ornamental Courage to keep it alive does his one's job better.

0-1 it's like a sign I shouldn't draft less than 5 2-drops in this format

Match 2 vs BR grind
+ Show Spoiler +
His curve tops at 3, but he plays mostly lookout, spireside infiltrator, reckless fireweaver, operative, familiar... and he drafted Underhanded Designs! C'mon man, that's my card, that's my BW day, don't do this to me. D:
He also has 3x Welding Sparks (he passed one of the Harnessed Lightnings I saw, maybe he thought he had enough?), Noxious Gearhulk... so he's got some late game but it looks like he really has no aggro outside of a curve-out early game, and he lacks the ability to push damage to pave the way for his finishers.
Deck has sweet synergies, but... incomplete?

Game 1 I notice I can wreck his board if the demon comes, so I get greedy and instead of trading I let his Operative punch me a couple times. Then right before the demon hits he plays Hijack and steals my self-assembler, threatening to drop me to ~4 with a lookout/infiltrator pair on board as a potential finisher.
Thanksfully the demon clears everything but a Fireweaver, and though it takes me several attacks to seal the deal (Lookout + Underhanded Designs + Familiar is a bunch of life gain) it's kinda back-breaking. Still, I almost lost for my greediness.

Game 2 has him on the lookout + skiff plan early on, so I decide to put some pressure with my bigger creatures (Operative, Pillarbug, then when he kills it Gearsmith to get it back... it's very hard for him to block profitably with his small creatures as long as I make him decide between Lookout and a 3/2 to clear the way), and up getting rid of the skiff, then the Lookout chumps... he hangs on for a bit because when I tap out to attack he just Hijacks the Pillarbug (with a counter from Subtle Strike, another spells which destroys his blocks) and pays for the lifelink, but we're both flooding with over half lands... and while I run 17, he's on only 15, and he doesn't even get the Gearhulk or a Welding Sparks to stall better.
After his blockers are depleted I swing twice and he dies. I think the match-up could have been sweet had he had more mid-size creatures to support his plan. As is I wasn't playing anything outrageous like a Peema but the pressure was still clearly on my side.

1-1, that's for taking my Underhanded Designs! ... sorry about your variance.

Match 3 vs RG curve beats
+ Show Spoiler +
It's the first-timer, apparently the job/full internship he has makes him work all evenings but one. I'm glad he seemed to have a good time for his day out.
My r2 opponent received the bye so he sit with us and looked at the guy's hand, explained mechanics or some potential plays to him, etc.

Game 1 he mulls to 5 on the play, me on 6, I feel kinda confident with my Die Young to deal with his 2-drop into stuff of mine, but it's a Kujar Seedsculptor. Followed by missed land drop + Giant Spectacles turn 3 and he starts beating down with a 4/4 menace.
Oops.
Revoke Privileges to show him how auras are vulnerable to removal... but he has Appetite in hand and resumes the beats on his turn. Oops.²
I also fuck up and put a counter on my Propeller Pioneer, thinking about a Marauder next but unable to deal with menace... (first time I drew Goggles tonight and it was in my starting hand). I end up at 8 life due to the beats, Thanksfully able to Die Young his Terror of the Fairgrounds, but he's got the module that makes counters out of energy and a fairgrounds trumpeteer.
He messes up here and trades with the 5/5 Visionary Augmenter I made out of the Goggles, rather than take 5 then next turn activate his module to get a 6/6 menace and 3/3. I have a Gearsmith so I don't care too much, and a Marauder + Goggles is more than enough to stabilise me.
When the Arborback Stomper he plays hits my Lawless Broker on block, I play the Demon to finish it off and uses the opportunity to highlight the risk difference between me attacking with open mana or tapped out.

Game 2 he again looks short on creatures (as mentioned, he drafted quality stuff, esp. for a first-timer, but didn't draft that many creatures and it bit him) and Rats+Kambal hold the fort for a Propeller (+ Goggles, again turn 1... ) to beat down.
I give him the opportunity to double-block my Self-Assembler with his Salivating Gremlins for a decent trade while I'm trying to push damage, but he takes it. After that, he can't deal with my bigger stuff and I actually have lethal on swing, so again the whole "If I'm tapped out and I lose a big creature for a small of yours, it's a good way to stall the game."

2-1, he said he had fun and learnt things and liked the cards he opened, so I'm glad

The regulars' table had Nissa, but ours cracked UR and RW fastlands, U and B gearhulks, Dovin Baan, Depala, Bomat Courier, Aetherworks Marvel... I ended up 3rd with breakers (weenies guy took it all) and thanksfully the splashiness of Dovin leaves the Spirebluff available to me. One of the guys who drafted Harnessed Lightning says he's fine with trading it, so I let him take whatever he wants amongst my draft, and I'm 2 cards closer to standard!

Learnt my store's gonna do the Kaladesh Standard Showdowns too. Clerk seemed a bit miffed since that's EDH+standard tournaments on the same day, and because they're official he doesn't get to play in any on top of all the work. I don't care about the prizes, I'm just happy I'll get to play some more standards, so better make sure to thank him for the effort.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 19 2016 03:27 GMT
#30512
I can envision a scenario where UG energy doesn't take Virtuoso, but it most likely involves him not taking Attune with Aether or Prophetic Prism highly enough.
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 19 2016 06:55 GMT
#30513
Man, the house actually looks nice after I spend 5 hours cleaning it.

Who would have known.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 19 2016 10:20 GMT
#30514
On November 19 2016 09:44 mordek wrote:
Anyone have a Wii U? Thinking about checking for deals next week and upgrading from my 10 yr old Wii.
Primarily interested in what the best party and coop games are. Obviously that is the wii's forte but if there's not that many great ones I could pass.


Most fun party games in my experience are:

Nintendoland - lots of mini games crammed into a game, really fun

Mario kart - self-explanatory

Smash - if you're into that kind of thing which all my friends are


Most fun co-op:

Yoshi's wooly world - really had a lot of fun playing it

Donkey kong tropical freeze - if you're a fan of the games



Obligatory you should buy them because they're cool games:

Mario maker - always something new, always something really fun for whatever mood you're in

Splatoon - lot of fun just in general


Probably missing a few, you can pick up Marios if you're into them (world/bros etc), mario party 10 is alrightish but stupid train system makes it fucking boring. Bayonetta is good but single player
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 19 2016 13:58 GMT
#30515
Thanks guys. I'll take a look at those links and thanks for the recommendations hf.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 19 2016 14:40 GMT
#30516
Continuing through my Steam backlog: Mark of the Ninja was a really fun 2D stealth platformer, very different feel from a lot of games. Though I generally don't like stealth games (I'm not what you would call "patient" or "subtle"), I had a lot of fun figuring my way through it. Would recommend.
It's your boy Guzma!
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
November 19 2016 16:40 GMT
#30517
On November 19 2016 22:58 mordek wrote:
Thanks guys. I'll take a look at those links and thanks for the recommendations hf.

bayonetta 1 and 2!!!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 19 2016 16:45 GMT
#30518
Magnemite this early in the game? Heck yusss

Also I'm glad I got Moon but it being dark all the time is a little odd. Gives the game a different vibe.
It's your boy Guzma!
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
November 19 2016 18:28 GMT
#30519
On November 20 2016 01:45 Requizen wrote:
Magnemite this early in the game? Heck yusss

Also I'm glad I got Moon but it being dark all the time is a little odd. Gives the game a different vibe.


if you get sick of it I think you can just change the clock on your 3ds
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
November 19 2016 18:37 GMT
#30520
On November 19 2016 19:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2016 09:44 mordek wrote:
Anyone have a Wii U? Thinking about checking for deals next week and upgrading from my 10 yr old Wii.
Primarily interested in what the best party and coop games are. Obviously that is the wii's forte but if there's not that many great ones I could pass.


Most fun party games in my experience are:

Nintendoland - lots of mini games crammed into a game, really fun

Mario kart - self-explanatory

Smash - if you're into that kind of thing which all my friends are


Most fun co-op:

Yoshi's wooly world - really had a lot of fun playing it

Donkey kong tropical freeze - if you're a fan of the games



Obligatory you should buy them because they're cool games:

Mario maker - always something new, always something really fun for whatever mood you're in

Splatoon - lot of fun just in general


Probably missing a few, you can pick up Marios if you're into them (world/bros etc), mario party 10 is alrightish but stupid train system makes it fucking boring. Bayonetta is good but single player

Have you tried mario 3d? I heard it's meant to be really good

We have super mario bros u, but its kinda a drag to play with younger siblings because they can't keep up, and also the controls feel kinda sluggish at times >.>
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