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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 18 2016 18:08 GMT
#29521
On October 19 2016 02:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2016 02:43 Requizen wrote:
On October 18 2016 11:21 iCanada wrote:
RIP Proleauge. Even though I havn't watched in like 3 years... RIP.

It's a pretty shitty day to be a SC2 fan. I honestly can't see OW having longevity, though. Like, it's fun and I play a lot and what not, but as an esport? I dunno. Nothing replaces Starcraft as a spectator sport for me.

On October 18 2016 20:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 18 2016 10:41 Cixah wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +


My music Monday in the spoiler. Kinda fun little song the video is pretty nsfw tho


yessssss Caravan Palace is so good

I dig their stuff (I actually linked this song in the first electroswing thing a long while back) but this is by and far their best song imo.

Is it weird that I find sc2/BW way easier to follow than OW?

Of course not. It's easy to watch the movement and actions on something like Starcraft. Buildings, upgrades, and units take time, and you can also know the timings. Watching an army move around is pretty straightforward. Even if you don't know the minutiae of the controls or builds or whatever, it's easy to see resources and map control. It's simple to see who's winning a fight and the movements of units around said fight.

For OW or other shooters, it's hard to follow 12 people moving independently and spraying out a million shots and abilities. You can do a top down view, but then you don't see any of the actual gameplay or skill that's happening.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 18 2016 18:15 GMT
#29522
RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2

I NEED TO LIE DOWN.
It's your boy Guzma!
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 18 2016 18:19 GMT
#29523
On October 19 2016 03:15 Requizen wrote:
RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2

I NEED TO LIE DOWN.


Not calling it Red Dead Revenge is a travesty.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 18 2016 18:28 GMT
#29524
On October 19 2016 02:52 iCanada wrote:
Yeah calculus didn't click for me mentally until I took beam theory and vibration mechanics. Which is sad because I aced all my math classes.

Why all calculus is introduced fundamentally with proofs is beyond me. Seems stupid as all hell.

Even goinh back to highschool courses... would be much much better if it wasintroduced as relations between distance, velocity, and acceleration. What kind of 16 year old can just take maths and turn it into a a sound understanding of a limit and the limit function. Like make those kids reason how to integrate a distance/time graph into a velocity graph without those words. Then if they smart make em do it again to create anew acceleration graph. Then show theme you can discover that with one mathematical operation... kids minds would be blown and instrigued instead of sleepingredients or texting.

"Welcome to pre-calc. Look limit formula. Memorize and forget forever!"

It's even more perplexing when you realize most of these things were figured out by individuals trying to solve real world problems. I don't really know how teaching came to this or why there is so much freaking inertia to get any real change going. Rather sad. So many people getting robbed of interesting concepts and thoughts just because they taught in such ugly ways.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 18 2016 19:16 GMT
#29525
introductory lessons being shit is sometimes intentional, selection and such. makes sure only people who really want that shit do that shit
the famous 'if you can deal with our worst, u cool' approach

it's not a good one. and doesn't really work. and most of the time it's just incompetence.
but hey,
i got nothing
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 18 2016 19:23 GMT
#29526
I really hate how higher ed basically tries to fail people. A couple days ago there was a Reddit post about how harsh things can be.

This quora answer is also kind of interesting.

I was pre med-ish until junior year. All the classes kind of sucked my passion away even though I did pretty well. It was after I quit that I began to enjoy my higher level bio classes, but problem was that I had already quit and I wasn't about to go back. Kind of a paradox.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 18 2016 19:43 GMT
#29527
On October 19 2016 04:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
I was pre med-ish until junior year. All the classes kind of sucked my passion away even though I did pretty well. It was after I quit that I began to enjoy my higher level bio classes, but problem was that I had already quit and I wasn't about to go back. Kind of a paradox.

Pre-med classes in college are awful.

Currently in 1st year of med school, and having done about half my requirements while I was in college and the other half on my own time after graduating and working, I can say that I found the latter to be highly preferable. Most university professors hate teaching pre-med students anyway (admittedly for good reason given how a lot of pre-med students tend to act).
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 18 2016 19:46 GMT
#29528
On October 19 2016 04:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2016 04:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
I was pre med-ish until junior year. All the classes kind of sucked my passion away even though I did pretty well. It was after I quit that I began to enjoy my higher level bio classes, but problem was that I had already quit and I wasn't about to go back. Kind of a paradox.

Pre-med classes in college are awful.

Currently in 1st year of med school, and having done about half my requirements while I was in college and the other half on my own time after graduating and working, I can say that I found the latter to be highly preferable. Most university professors hate teaching pre-med students anyway (admittedly for good reason given how a lot of pre-med students tend to act).

Premeds are pretty insufferable.

Can definitely attest to taking a little longer to get your prerequisites and doing it more on your own time though. I think in many cases the benefits outweigh those of being a 22 year old doctor or whatever.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 19:53:22
October 18 2016 19:50 GMT
#29529
I love those unis/lecturers that pride themselves on how low their pass rate is. Fucking morons. If people are failing your course in droves then you are the problem. Higher education is just not at all about education. They treat under-grad as a side thing they have to get out of the way so they can do postgrad work.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 18 2016 20:09 GMT
#29530
and meanwhile you pay more and more tuition for the privilege of killing yourself to learn what a professor should have taught you. at least at work i get paid for my overly long hours. :>
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 18 2016 20:31 GMT
#29531
it really is tempting to just work instead of studying

i even did it for a year

i wont even make significantly more after i get a job in my field than when i did that
only upside is it'll be less boring work
probably
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-18 20:46:35
October 18 2016 20:46 GMT
#29532
Music Monday (belated):
+ Show Spoiler +
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 18 2016 21:27 GMT
#29533
On October 19 2016 05:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
and meanwhile you pay more and more tuition for the privilege of killing yourself to learn what a professor should have taught you. at least at work i get paid for my overly long hours. :>

It is pretty sad how little results have to do with your salary (and how low it is in general at least in Bulgaria). That is by far the biggest issue with education.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 18 2016 22:09 GMT
#29534
Most profs don't teach because they want to, they teach because they want to do research.

It is a large fundamental problem in academia imo. Although there are a few profs that are amazing.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 18 2016 22:10 GMT
#29535
On October 19 2016 05:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
it really is tempting to just work instead of studying

i even did it for a year

i wont even make significantly more after i get a job in my field than when i did that
only upside is it'll be less boring work
probably

There are some fields where you can come in at a really low level and get them to pay for your degree (or at least part of it) while you move up.
It's your boy Guzma!
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
October 19 2016 04:30 GMT
#29536
On October 19 2016 02:52 iCanada wrote:
Yeah calculus didn't click for me mentally until I took beam theory and vibration mechanics. Which is sad because I aced all my math classes.

Why all calculus is introduced fundamentally with proofs is beyond me. Seems stupid as all hell.

Even goinh back to highschool courses... would be much much better if it wasintroduced as relations between distance, velocity, and acceleration. What kind of 16 year old can just take maths and turn it into a a sound understanding of a limit and the limit function. Like make those kids reason how to integrate a distance/time graph into a velocity graph without those words. Then if they smart make em do it again to create anew acceleration graph. Then show theme you can discover that with one mathematical operation... kids minds would be blown and instrigued instead of sleepingredients or texting.

"Welcome to pre-calc. Look limit formula. Memorize and forget forever!"


but... but... but... I *liked* learning all the proofs. =(
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 19 2016 07:22 GMT
#29537
I'm old fashioned and think understanding the reasons behind things is important. Learning to be methodical and fastidious is also super important in anything STEM, and proofs happen to be exercises in being methodical and fastidious.

They're a royal pain in the butt, and I absolutely hated proofs because writing every goddamn step was such a waste of time, except I probably wouldn't be as good a software engineer as I am now without that experience.

If there's a better way to teach those skills such that proofs can be saved for later, then awesome, do that instead.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 19 2016 08:09 GMT
#29538
Started working out about 7 months to this day, and I'll pray to any lifting god that I can reach the 225 (102kg) bench press club.

Felt happy today to bust out clean reps of 6 at 185 (102kg) after sets of 10 at 135 (61)x2 and 165 (75kg). Standing at about 163 pounds, I remember finally being able to bench 135.
Forever Young
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
October 19 2016 08:45 GMT
#29539
I have a feeling this bell curve thing is not universal. At least I've never experienced pride in any of the teachers with high fail classes/fields (organic chem, 1,5lvl math). Just frustration.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 19 2016 09:13 GMT
#29540
On October 19 2016 07:10 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2016 05:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
it really is tempting to just work instead of studying

i even did it for a year

i wont even make significantly more after i get a job in my field than when i did that
only upside is it'll be less boring work
probably

There are some fields where you can come in at a really low level and get them to pay for your degree (or at least part of it) while you move up.

but this is socialist europe. we don't have to pay for our degrees anyway
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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