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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 28 2016 18:35 GMT
#29141
On September 29 2016 03:32 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 03:26 mordek wrote:
On September 29 2016 03:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
be careful there, with how much blizz loves the rng, the first hand disruption spell they would port from mtg would actually be hymn to tourach :^)

Wow now there's an old card. Back in my youth I had 4 of those and the Hypnotic Specters. Anything discard related went into that deck.

Oh lord are you that guy that brings 8-rack to an event just so no one can play magic!

Playing a bit of wild made me realize how right kibler is. I was like "let me load up an oil rogue".... "fucking blizzard". Now they gutting charge so no more fun worgen nonsense.

well old casual discard decks were literally just discard without a proper win-con

so its more accurate to say that literally nobody played any magic
it was great
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
September 28 2016 18:55 GMT
#29142
On September 29 2016 03:17 phyvo wrote:
I know Charge is a classic card and so is subject to greater scrutiny but it still feels bad that Blizzard continues to nerf every combo deck that ever reaches the competitive scene. After the crap that is deadly fork I'm not confident in Blizzard's usage of the resulting design space.

If they can gut handlock they will gut any sort of control deck.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 19:02:03
September 28 2016 18:56 GMT
#29143
The guy who introduced his friends to mtg when he started again and organises drafts from time to time kept a bunch of older cards, and most of them are black and either removal or discard. You could tell he hated friends.
He's running Alesha in EDH atm, I didn't realise how powerful of a toolbox it is, can't let him attack too much or it just answers most stuff.

I'm not sure how I'm gonna make my warrior quests in HS now. Patron/OTK loses its main wincon, and I really dislike dragon decks.
I know they're effective, I just don't feel like playing them out of principle because of how I dislike playing against them. They feel like "just vomit your stuff on curve and get above-average value for having a later drop in hand", and the new "discover a dragon" 2-drop half makes me want to concede whenever it comes down.
Obviously has a bunch to do with the fact I'm not high on face decks so not much of what I play punishes them (got to rank 13 with Secret Hunter then stopped ranked, when Res Priest wouldn't get me higher than 16-15). I guess I'll cave in and craft Malygos or Van Cleef so I can play Rogue again too.

On September 29 2016 02:47 TheYango wrote:
4 mana Flamestrike equivalent in multiple classes that aren't Mage.

If we're gonna dream, may as well dream big.

Don't remind me that we lose Languish ;_;

Actually, updating my deck for the previous meta post-KLD would be cheap (yay Europe) and somewhat easy, I could even pick up a couple Ob Nixilis now that they're around 4-4.5€ to add to removal/interaction, although it'd need more fine-tuning regarding single-target removal.

But stuff like turbo-titan with Aetherworks Marvel, if it becomes a real deck, isn't really something we can interact with (I doubt Harsh Scrutiny is a thing because of vehicles, or ways to tutor/regrowth depending on the deck, and Lost Legacy is, well... "suited" to the current block I guess), and the mana base is going to become a lot harder since fastlands don't do nearly as well as painlands in control decks.
Actually I may end up with something like -painlands, -2 unco taplands, +4 fastlands, +2 basics (and find a way to add a couple Aether Hubs as early game fixers somehow). Especially now that with the loss of Languish the big turn for BW control is likely 5 (wrath effects, Ob Nixilis, etc.).

Liliana and Kalitas are too expensive for me to include them (Fumigate/Lost Legacy are basically worth nothing atm, Skywhaler's Shot is an uncommon, Live Fast a common if I use that over Succumb to Temptation, Ob dropped in price, Concealed Courtyard's very affordable, the Gearhulks are a bit too expensive though, I esp. hope the cataclysmic one drops since it's not as effective as its current price suggests compared to the others), so as long as I accept I'm not running a t1 deck, I'm fine with it, it makes me only spend like ~30€ to update the deck.
And ironically enough keeping my Gideon playset maindeck actually made me stronger against some match-ups than the PT-winning version (including in the mirror, hilariously).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 28 2016 19:11 GMT
#29144
On September 29 2016 03:35 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 03:32 Numy wrote:
On September 29 2016 03:26 mordek wrote:
On September 29 2016 03:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
be careful there, with how much blizz loves the rng, the first hand disruption spell they would port from mtg would actually be hymn to tourach :^)

Wow now there's an old card. Back in my youth I had 4 of those and the Hypnotic Specters. Anything discard related went into that deck.

Oh lord are you that guy that brings 8-rack to an event just so no one can play magic!

Playing a bit of wild made me realize how right kibler is. I was like "let me load up an oil rogue".... "fucking blizzard". Now they gutting charge so no more fun worgen nonsense.

well old casual discard decks were literally just discard without a proper win-con

so its more accurate to say that literally nobody played any magic
it was great

This is much closer to the truth. And I only played kitchen table magic 95% of the time.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 19:38:34
September 28 2016 19:36 GMT
#29145
On September 29 2016 03:32 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 03:26 mordek wrote:
On September 29 2016 03:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
be careful there, with how much blizz loves the rng, the first hand disruption spell they would port from mtg would actually be hymn to tourach :^)

Wow now there's an old card. Back in my youth I had 4 of those and the Hypnotic Specters. Anything discard related went into that deck.

Oh lord are you that guy that brings 8-rack to an event just so no one can play magic!

Playing a bit of wild made me realize how right kibler is. I was like "let me load up an oil rogue".... "fucking blizzard". Now they gutting charge so no more fun worgen nonsense.


Yeah, at first I liked the idea of keeping classic cards and/or having a card game with a lot more buffs and nerfs thrown around but that Kibler video really made me think about how nerfing stuff like molten giant and blade flurry has actually affected my enjoyment of game, like how in practice the nerfs and wild haven't been as satisfying as they should have been. I miss playing echo giants, I miss blade flurry being a decent clear option whether it was in mill rogue or oil rogue, and while I never really played handlock I always liked watching the control warrior vs handlock matchup in competitions.

But more than that the video helped me find how that common nostalgic thread ties CGs in with every other game as well. Like how LoL became less interesting as basically every champion got reworked, and how each rework would flip my like/dislike of a champion like a switch. And how being able to separate games with defined sequels and expansions is actually a pretty great strength to have since it means that today I can load up both Starcraft 2 and Brood War if I want to and take my pick among Smash 64 or Melee or Project M.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 28 2016 19:51 GMT
#29146
I loved playing both sides of that matchup. Team 5 has just done enough to make me not really bother with the game anymore. Think this small wild session was first time I played in 3 months. It's a shame since I really enjoyed it at one point. Pity what they want the game to be is so drastically different to what I want.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
September 28 2016 19:58 GMT
#29147
Holy shit it's back

I'm redefining today as Monday because this is amazing, videos been literally unfindable on YouTube for like 8 years

Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 28 2016 20:15 GMT
#29148
On September 29 2016 04:58 killerdog wrote:
Holy shit it's back

I'm redefining today as Monday because this is amazing, videos been literally unfindable on YouTube for like 8 years

https://youtu.be/vxrBRfdURY8


Sounds like a knockoff Basshunter tbh.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 28 2016 20:24 GMT
#29149
basshunter, thats a name i havent heard for a long time
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 28 2016 20:43 GMT
#29150
perhaps they finally found the bass and retired
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 28 2016 20:58 GMT
#29151
One does not simply retire from the bass.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 21:42:54
September 28 2016 21:12 GMT
#29152
Yay for HS changes
RIP Shaman, you will not be missed#

Also, a scrying mechanic might bring the Wrath+Molten giant Paladin deck in the meta. Could be fun, hehe.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 22:15:28
September 28 2016 22:14 GMT
#29153
On September 29 2016 05:15 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 04:58 killerdog wrote:
Holy shit it's back

I'm redefining today as Monday because this is amazing, videos been literally unfindable on YouTube for like 8 years

https://youtu.be/vxrBRfdURY8


Sounds like a knockoff Basshunter tbh.

It's about a guy and his friends who go to the jyske builders school and drink beers and do e and go into town without taking showers.

It's legendary

And also the first thing any dane between the ages of 18 and 30 think of when they hear my name T.T
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 28 2016 22:24 GMT
#29154
The only time I wake up and there's 50+ new posts anymore you guys are talking about Hearthstone.

In other news, why the fuck do Windows 10's update messages look like a ransomware attack?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 23:02:35
September 28 2016 22:55 GMT
#29155
They might as well be! The best part is when your computer crashes and there's a giant That freaks me out every time, I don't know who's idea it was to be cute but they're awful.

Also, I just finished A Dance with Dragons and I can't believe Martin wasted my time on:

+ Show Spoiler +

1. A dude whose entire purpose is to get anticlimactically lit on fire with almost no implications for anyone that really matters.
2. Aegon! Because we totally needed someone who was supposedly dead vying for the throne out of no where with all his stupid mummers. Really adds to the story.
3. A bunch of wildings being let into the wall while the real action (Hardhomme) is completely ignored beyond grave messages that amount to nothing because... well that just ends abruptly.
4. All the dumb political crap in Essos. Which is half the book.


Yeah, not reading the last couple books for like 5 pages of stuff that actually matters amidst 1995 pages of garbage. Thing that makes me angriest is the book elitists who act like the show is trash. 3/5 of the books I read were trash, and arguably 4/5ths of one of the good books isn't great either. The show gets really bad where the books get really bad.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
September 28 2016 23:23 GMT
#29156
On September 29 2016 07:24 Ketara wrote:
The only time I wake up and there's 50+ new posts anymore you guys are talking about Hearthstone.

In other news, why the fuck do Windows 10's update messages look like a ransomware attack?

new update, idk science maybe
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 23:59:01
September 28 2016 23:42 GMT
#29157
On September 29 2016 00:06 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 23:57 phyvo wrote:
Is it enough if I know that SQL is programming for databases and is really really popular? Because that is the full extent of what I know about it.

On September 28 2016 23:30 Eppa! wrote:
https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchopen is live.


I am normally not much of an FPS-watching guy but the last part of the open was actually really exciting to watch.


You know more than my boss does. She's so clueless I can usually get away with "Magic" for why I fixed it.


It goes the other way too.

The software guys are in other department (i'm a mechie) building something for our finance department so they don't have to spend ridiculous money on 3rd party software monthly in this economy.

But we have all this Equipment data in an SQL server only the software guys have access to. I want to run a quick query on the database to get a table that crosses a few tables on the database... But it is magic and will take them "who even knows how long" to do, so I can't get approved to get them to get me that information that would let me build a 10/10 piece of equipment with real job data instead of real half assed best guesses to get to a 6/10 design.

Its magic, so... two lines of coding is out of reach i guess. It could waste weeks of their time! I can't do it either, I might royally fuck everything up! Even though even if I had to learn a completely new language it would take me 45 minutes absolute maximum. Like 5 minutes for a software engineer to get that shit for me tops.

Its just like... fuck, why even bother collecting the data if we can't use it. I guess thats Alberta with Oil @ 40 bucks an hour for you.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 28 2016 23:46 GMT
#29158
On September 29 2016 07:55 zer0das wrote:
They might as well be! The best part is when your computer crashes and there's a giant That freaks me out every time, I don't know who's idea it was to be cute but they're awful.

Also, I just finished A Dance with Dragons and I can't believe Martin wasted my time on:

+ Show Spoiler +

1. A dude whose entire purpose is to get anticlimactically lit on fire with almost no implications for anyone that really matters.
2. Aegon! Because we totally needed someone who was supposedly dead vying for the throne out of no where with all his stupid mummers. Really adds to the story.
3. A bunch of wildings being let into the wall while the real action (Hardhomme) is completely ignored beyond grave messages that amount to nothing because... well that just ends abruptly.
4. All the dumb political crap in Essos. Which is half the book.


Yeah, not reading the last couple books for like 5 pages of stuff that actually matters amidst 1995 pages of garbage. Thing that makes me angriest is the book elitists who act like the show is trash. 3/5 of the books I read were trash, and arguably 4/5ths of one of the good books isn't great either. The show gets really bad where the books get really bad.

idk about those book 'elitists' either, later books get really weak and borderline unreadable

the show going in completely different direction can sometimes be a good thing
ppl just be mad they fuck up parts that are good in the books, while the book is just fucking up parts that didn't make it into the show i guess
so nobody got attached to those parts -> less butthurt about it
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Sunaj
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-29 00:50:52
September 29 2016 00:50 GMT
#29159
On September 29 2016 07:55 zer0das wrote:
They might as well be! The best part is when your computer crashes and there's a giant That freaks me out every time, I don't know who's idea it was to be cute but they're awful.

Also, I just finished A Dance with Dragons and I can't believe Martin wasted my time on:

+ Show Spoiler +

1. A dude whose entire purpose is to get anticlimactically lit on fire with almost no implications for anyone that really matters.
2. Aegon! Because we totally needed someone who was supposedly dead vying for the throne out of no where with all his stupid mummers. Really adds to the story.
3. A bunch of wildings being let into the wall while the real action (Hardhomme) is completely ignored beyond grave messages that amount to nothing because... well that just ends abruptly.
4. All the dumb political crap in Essos. Which is half the book.


Yeah, not reading the last couple books for like 5 pages of stuff that actually matters amidst 1995 pages of garbage. Thing that makes me angriest is the book elitists who act like the show is trash. 3/5 of the books I read were trash, and arguably 4/5ths of one of the good books isn't great either. The show gets really bad where the books get really bad.


Now imagine actually waiting 6 years for it. I started reading ASoFaI in 04. My Feast of Crows has a note from Martin saying Dance was gonna be out the summer of 06......
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-29 02:23:10
September 29 2016 02:18 GMT
#29160
I don't know what SQL is and I can't change oil in a car. I can however make nice food so that is good.

The classes in Hearthstone are a mess. Some are amazing, Druid, Warrior, Rogue, Lock and some are shit Shaman, Priest, Hunter. So instead of fixing the actual classes or rotating base sets they just become strongly tiered and then get "adjusted" by releasing shit cards or OP broken cards.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
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