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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-06 15:31:25
August 06 2016 15:29 GMT
#27801
On August 07 2016 00:25 Numy wrote:
Playing a fatigue style card advantage with a class that has zero defensive options is bad.

As I said earlier. Sure you can try your fun cute decks and having cards for them is nice and all but when they only print those kind of cards it's really frustrating for the other kind of player.

This game has always relied on Healing. healbot is gone, and rogue is bad because of it. You can try cute miracle rogue decks, but without the ability to withstand burst, it's meaningless.

Meanwhile Orbit in Rainbow6 Siege would be DQ'd if riot ran the scene. LOL Orbit gets a kill, nearly match point, "WOOOOOOOO GET IT" from the main stage.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 06 2016 15:38 GMT
#27802
On August 06 2016 16:42 Eppa! wrote:
LOL priest are getting shafted in Kara.

As somebody that doesn't play HS, this has very different meaning.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 06 2016 15:42 GMT
#27803
Healing would wreck Rogue because they lost Blade Flurry and Oil so outside of good Miracle draws their burst is low-ish now (hence the return of Leeroy). Give Healbot and the people getting out of Rogue's range is gonna be more impactful than Rogue not dying to other burn decks.

Also Reno keeps getting better till he'll be out so he's obnoxious for Rogue anyway (zoo and face hunter can kill before he drops down, Rogue can't).

On August 07 2016 00:11 phyvo wrote:
I'm finding it hard to be excited about this expansion. There aren't really any new mechanics and there isn't really much of a theme either. Which sucks because I like the guaranteed nature of getting adventure cards a lot more than the snoozefest of opening 40 dust packs.

They're adding some dragon matters cards in Paladin, which I'm fine with, helps dragon decks but doesn't buff Warrior some more.
The discard matters subtheme in Warlock could be interesting, but you need critical mass because of the random discad mechanic, which would make the deck degenerate if you could somehow get enough outlets/payoffs to make it efficient enough to be competitive. I'm not sure why they make you discard at random, considering it always happens on your turn anyway...

Rogue's card stealing is meh because so class-dependant. You don't do much against Warrior or Warlock (shield slam wooo~).
The 1/1 get a random card Pirate is terrible because it's random cycling, that leaves a bad body on board. But hey, you gotta up your game of playing pirates and stealing things obviously!
And the pay-off with the 5/6 for 6 is low because you need to steal cards, not play them, and still want to play them at some point (and be able too, high shield slam) for that card to get value. Bad.

Meanwhile Mage get a stupid common Portal that's ridiculously undercosted considering both effects, while Druid is overcosted, and Paladin and Shaman are costed for both effects (so advantageous since they're concentrated in one card) 'cept they're situational effects you're unlikely to want. Urgh.
And mage get some more good cards like that retarded book.

I like the hunter secret at least, considering everybody's spamming spells for Yogg.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
August 06 2016 15:43 GMT
#27804
**Looks at priest cards**

hahahahahahahahaaaaah. hah.

Not getting back into Hearthstone after THAT shit.

Also someone remember to put Zetalot on suicide watch.


On August 06 2016 22:55 Jek wrote:
Priest of the Feast doesn't look that bad. It's essentially a 4 mana 3/6 taunt against most decks.

So it's a soft-taunt 3/6 when I can pick up a vanilla 4-mana 3/5 hard taunt, or a 4-mana soft taunt 3/5 with actual offensive capabilities, none of which solves any of priest's core problems (early game) or offers/opens up any sort of meaningful gameplay/deckbuilding options for priests.

Purify is complete and total trash tier and Onyx Bishop is terrible as well.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 06 2016 15:44 GMT
#27805
On August 07 2016 00:29 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2016 00:25 Numy wrote:
Playing a fatigue style card advantage with a class that has zero defensive options is bad.

As I said earlier. Sure you can try your fun cute decks and having cards for them is nice and all but when they only print those kind of cards it's really frustrating for the other kind of player.

This game has always relied on Healing. healbot is gone, and rogue is bad because of it. You can try cute miracle rogue decks, but without the ability to withstand burst, it's meaningless.

Meanwhile Orbit in Rainbow6 Siege would be DQ'd if riot ran the scene. LOL Orbit gets a kill, nearly match point, "WOOOOOOOO GET IT" from the main stage.

Pretty sure not even riot would DQ someone for shouting that. Although they did fine Hai for flipping off someone lol.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-06 16:14:25
August 06 2016 16:13 GMT
#27806
On August 07 2016 00:43 Lord Tolkien wrote:
**Looks at priest cards**

hahahahahahahahaaaaah. hah.

Not getting back into Hearthstone after THAT shit.

Also someone remember to put Zetalot on suicide watch.


Show nested quote +
On August 06 2016 22:55 Jek wrote:
Priest of the Feast doesn't look that bad. It's essentially a 4 mana 3/6 taunt against most decks.

So it's a soft-taunt 3/6 when I can pick up a vanilla 4-mana 3/5 hard taunt, or a 4-mana soft taunt 3/5 with actual offensive capabilities, none of which solves any of priest's core problems (early game) or offers/opens up any sort of meaningful gameplay/deckbuilding options for priests.

Purify is complete and total trash tier and Onyx Bishop is terrible as well.

It's more flexible than just a 3/6 soft taunt, if for some reason sticks it should be fairly trivial to heal out of burst range. Later in the game you can play it for burst healing. It's a unique effect and as with all unique effects I think it's too early to judge it without actually trying it.

AND YOU CAN PURIFY IT IF YOU HAVE SOUL PRIEST IN PLAY. Oh the synergy. :^)
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-06 16:25:09
August 06 2016 16:24 GMT
#27807
On August 07 2016 01:13 Jek wrote:
It's more flexible than just a 3/6 soft taunt, if for some reason sticks it should be fairly trivial to heal out of burst range. Later in the game you can play it for burst healing. Think it's too early to judge it.

AND YOU CAN PURIFY IT IF YOU HAVE SOUL PRIEST IN PLAY. Oh the synergy. :^)

Again, issue is it doesn't address any of the core issues that Priest has (besides adding to an already clogged 4-slot), and priest does not need a conditional heal effect with the amount of instant healing options available (alchemist, flash heal). Else people would seriously consider tournament medic outside of gimmick inner fire decks.

I mean theoretically you can use x2 of that shit and x2 flash heal for a 22 HP on turn 10, but Paladins do something similar with 1 card so...yeah.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
August 06 2016 16:43 GMT
#27808
Reached rank 69 in OW time to retire.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 06 2016 17:56 GMT
#27809
Any opinion on Fallout 4? Better / worse than Skyrim?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 06 2016 18:26 GMT
#27810
On August 07 2016 00:44 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2016 00:29 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 07 2016 00:25 Numy wrote:
Playing a fatigue style card advantage with a class that has zero defensive options is bad.

As I said earlier. Sure you can try your fun cute decks and having cards for them is nice and all but when they only print those kind of cards it's really frustrating for the other kind of player.

This game has always relied on Healing. healbot is gone, and rogue is bad because of it. You can try cute miracle rogue decks, but without the ability to withstand burst, it's meaningless.

Meanwhile Orbit in Rainbow6 Siege would be DQ'd if riot ran the scene. LOL Orbit gets a kill, nearly match point, "WOOOOOOOO GET IT" from the main stage.

Pretty sure not even riot would DQ someone for shouting that. Although they did fine Hai for flipping off someone lol.

he followed it up with "fuck yeah suck my dick."
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-06 18:36:18
August 06 2016 18:35 GMT
#27811
On August 07 2016 02:56 Sufficiency wrote:
Any opinion on Fallout 4? Better / worse than Skyrim?

Worse (hard to compare since Skyrim was a true gem in the genre), but it's still a good game in my opinion. It's getting better by the day thanks to the insane modding scene on Nexus.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
August 06 2016 18:37 GMT
#27812
Imo it slightly worse than skyrim but if you moded skyrim fallout is much worse.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 06 2016 18:42 GMT
#27813
On August 07 2016 03:26 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2016 00:44 nafta wrote:
On August 07 2016 00:29 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 07 2016 00:25 Numy wrote:
Playing a fatigue style card advantage with a class that has zero defensive options is bad.

As I said earlier. Sure you can try your fun cute decks and having cards for them is nice and all but when they only print those kind of cards it's really frustrating for the other kind of player.

This game has always relied on Healing. healbot is gone, and rogue is bad because of it. You can try cute miracle rogue decks, but without the ability to withstand burst, it's meaningless.

Meanwhile Orbit in Rainbow6 Siege would be DQ'd if riot ran the scene. LOL Orbit gets a kill, nearly match point, "WOOOOOOOO GET IT" from the main stage.

Pretty sure not even riot would DQ someone for shouting that. Although they did fine Hai for flipping off someone lol.

he followed it up with "fuck yeah suck my dick."

Sounds like Console fps. Is this on console?
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-06 18:43:54
August 06 2016 18:43 GMT
#27814
It's worth noting it's much more like Skyrim, the setting aside, than the older Fallout games, there's barely any reason to use VATS for instance.

If you liked Skyrim you're going to like Fallout 4.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 06 2016 21:19 GMT
#27815
Actually the Luck-based VATS build is one of the strongest. Infinite crits/AP is pretty sick.

But until you get the core elements of that build, VATS is basically useful for pointing you in the direction of whatever is shooting you and/or good if you're absolutely awful at aiming.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 06 2016 21:57 GMT
#27816
Fun fact: Pinsir tears Exeggutor's ass open.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
August 06 2016 22:07 GMT
#27817
On August 07 2016 02:56 Sufficiency wrote:
Any opinion on Fallout 4? Better / worse than Skyrim?


fun. not as good as skyrim but fun.

Kinda hard to find a vendor in the beginning if you just explore aimlessly
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 07 2016 00:16 GMT
#27818
A guy on YouTube put it best about suicide squad: critics came to see a film and fans came to see suicide squad. Objectively the movie is a complete pile of shit, which was inevitable after they did maaive reshooting to change the tone of the film; that decision made the movie totally tone-deaf so it was either comically serious or seriously comical, and it also showed some pretty terrible editing in the action scenes. Also almost none of the characters meant anything. I don't mind that some people enjoyed the movie, but there's no way it was good.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
August 07 2016 00:31 GMT
#27819
On August 07 2016 09:16 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
A guy on YouTube put it best about suicide squad: critics came to see a film and fans came to see suicide squad. Objectively the movie is a complete pile of shit, which was inevitable after they did maaive reshooting to change the tone of the film; that decision made the movie totally tone-deaf so it was either comically serious or seriously comical, and it also showed some pretty terrible editing in the action scenes. Also almost none of the characters meant anything. I don't mind that some people enjoyed the movie, but there's no way it was good.



considering they screened both versions of it for a while I doubt the darker version was that much better. I mean it probably was better but if somethings great you can usually tell
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 07 2016 00:49 GMT
#27820
On August 07 2016 03:42 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2016 03:26 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 07 2016 00:44 nafta wrote:
On August 07 2016 00:29 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 07 2016 00:25 Numy wrote:
Playing a fatigue style card advantage with a class that has zero defensive options is bad.

As I said earlier. Sure you can try your fun cute decks and having cards for them is nice and all but when they only print those kind of cards it's really frustrating for the other kind of player.

This game has always relied on Healing. healbot is gone, and rogue is bad because of it. You can try cute miracle rogue decks, but without the ability to withstand burst, it's meaningless.

Meanwhile Orbit in Rainbow6 Siege would be DQ'd if riot ran the scene. LOL Orbit gets a kill, nearly match point, "WOOOOOOOO GET IT" from the main stage.

Pretty sure not even riot would DQ someone for shouting that. Although they did fine Hai for flipping off someone lol.

he followed it up with "fuck yeah suck my dick."

Sounds like Console fps. Is this on console?

no i had said so when starting about the event.
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