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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 16 2016 17:33 GMT
#26061
On June 17 2016 00:14 mordek wrote:
Has anyone been playing to get achievements? I love collecting those things. Some of these are going to be hard because of difficulty and also I'm garbage at that particular hero. Made sure to get my Reinhardt cute spray this morning :3

I like trying for a couple of them but I don't understabd some of the 'prevent team from capturing point' ones. I could swear I've done those multiple times and not gotten anything.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
June 16 2016 17:48 GMT
#26062
On June 17 2016 02:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 01:53 TheEmulator wrote:
On June 17 2016 01:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 17 2016 01:08 killerdog wrote:
On June 17 2016 01:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 17 2016 00:15 Redox wrote:
On June 17 2016 00:05 Requizen wrote:
I'm ready for some sort of ranked mode. Pick up games are fun but yeah they sometimes feel really one-sided. I guess that won't change too much with Ranked (because solo queue) but hey, you never know.

The nice thing about playing ranked is that you actually have something to play for. In unranked I dont care at all about win or lose, you end up with 50% anyway no matter if you try hard or not. Like my brother is a way better player than me but what does it matter, we both still win the same amount of games. So to me playing unranked feels like being in a hamster wheel. Nothing you do matters, you always end up at the same place as far as you can tell (since you cant see your mmr).


Well that gets more into the focus on MMR vs the focus on personal improvement.

I've bounced around 55% win rate more or less, and none of it really matter because it's unranked. But I've been setting personal goals that I aim for to try and focus on mechanical improvements.

Aiming for:
  • 100 damage absorbed per projected shield on Zarya
  • 55% hook accuracy on Roadhog is what I consider decent, 60% is my current benchmark for "good"
  • 35%+ direct rocket accuracy with Pharah (obviously skewed by shooting shields, but shut up red)


As I get more consistent with things like these, I increase my goal benchmarks. IDGAF about my MMR right now, but all these little improvements will be beneficial in the long run.

Holyflare somehow has like 90% hook accuracy every game, with 20+ hooks fired.

I don't understand...


Well, those are the cards you see, so I'd assume there's a bit of confirmation bias there.

I'm not sure about HF, but I tend to make a lot of low chance, high reward hook attempts (getting people on ledges, airborne enemies, getting flying hooks while I'm airborne, etc) that likely bring my accuracy rate down. I think I'm getting close to 50% average hook accuracy, but I might be falling slightly short of that at this moment (masteroverwatch is blocked at work for me, someone feel free to check Soniv#1962).

It could be that he's taking lower risk chances, he could be always grabbing fat tanks instead of the skinny carries or supports, as Redox mentioned it could be dependent on enemy skill, or he could just be a better Roadhog than I am (although I'd be a bit skeptical on that one only because I've played a LOT of Roadhog, not to teut my own horn or anything).

Checked and you're at 48%.


Thanks. I know I hit 49% at one point, must have fallen back down. I'll be happy once I average 50% overall

I've been playing a lot more of the other tanks instead of Roadhog lately though.

hey you had a game with 100% hook accuracy and also a game with 26 enemies hooked thats pretty baller.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 16 2016 17:56 GMT
#26063
Those stats seem pretty meaningless to me and are at risk of making me focus on the wrong things.
IF you start out bad and slowly improve like me over a large number of games it'll take forever to see any real reflection of that in your stats.

Roadhog hooks for example. I'm still learning him so I'm gonna spam hooks like crazy and miss a whole bunch, affecting my stats forever, but all of that will ultimately make me a better player which won't be reflected in my stats the longer that takes to happen. If I focused on good stats I'd only try and go for a few easy hooks per game and not improve.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
June 16 2016 17:57 GMT
#26064
On June 17 2016 00:14 mordek wrote:
Has anyone been playing to get achievements? I love collecting those things. Some of these are going to be hard because of difficulty and also I'm garbage at that particular hero. Made sure to get my Reinhardt cute spray this morning :3


I put in some concerted effort to get some of the achievements I was missing from regular play on my 'main' classes(like, I played around my recall cooldown to get the Tracer one, made sure to go ham reflecting Bastions every time I saw them for the Genji one... I think those are the two I actually had to make an effort on.

Really the only achievement I'm missing for people I play regularly is the Zarya 70 energy for 60 seconds one... which might be the next one I put a real effort into getting as opposed to trying to get it through natural play(I thought I had it last night but apparently it wasn't a full minute, QQ).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 16 2016 18:00 GMT
#26065
Does anyone have small hand mouse suggestions? I'm feeling a change and want to look at options. Don't really know what's out there. Think the last mouse I used before this shitty microsoft one was a SS Sensei which was pretty cool. Before that was the MX518 which is just godly :<
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
June 16 2016 18:15 GMT
#26066
On June 17 2016 01:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 00:15 Redox wrote:
On June 17 2016 00:05 Requizen wrote:
I'm ready for some sort of ranked mode. Pick up games are fun but yeah they sometimes feel really one-sided. I guess that won't change too much with Ranked (because solo queue) but hey, you never know.

The nice thing about playing ranked is that you actually have something to play for. In unranked I dont care at all about win or lose, you end up with 50% anyway no matter if you try hard or not. Like my brother is a way better player than me but what does it matter, we both still win the same amount of games. So to me playing unranked feels like being in a hamster wheel. Nothing you do matters, you always end up at the same place as far as you can tell (since you cant see your mmr).


Well that gets more into the focus on MMR vs the focus on personal improvement.

I've bounced around 55% win rate more or less, and none of it really matter because it's unranked. But I've been setting personal goals that I aim for to try and focus on mechanical improvements.

Aiming for:
  • 100 damage absorbed per projected shield on Zarya
  • 55% hook accuracy on Roadhog is what I consider decent, 60% is my current benchmark for "good"
  • 35%+ direct rocket accuracy with Pharah (obviously skewed by shooting shields, but shut up red)


As I get more consistent with things like these, I increase my goal benchmarks. IDGAF about my MMR right now, but all these little improvements will be beneficial in the long run.

How do you see direct rocket percentage?
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
June 16 2016 18:26 GMT
#26067
Is direct hit really something you want to be maximising that hard?

With how free ammo is in OW, surely you want to be firing zoning rockets into doorways/chokes whenever you don't have anything more useful to be doing, rather than only going for snipes.

Like, sure it's a proportionally stat overall, but trying to intentionally boost it could lead to pretty shitty habits in terms of actually just maximising your own usefulness.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
June 16 2016 18:27 GMT
#26068
On June 17 2016 03:26 killerdog wrote:
Is direct hit really something you want to be maximising that hard?

With how free ammo is in OW, surely you want to be firing zoning rockets into doorways/chokes whenever you don't have anything more useful to be doing, rather than only going for snipes.

Like, sure it's a proportionally stat overall, but trying to intentionally boost it could lead to pretty shitty habits in terms of actually just maximising your own usefulness.

yeah my accuracy is pretty shit on pharah and torb cause i just lob shit where I know they will have to come from presently if its not a good time to go hunting or do anything else.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 18:29:48
June 16 2016 18:28 GMT
#26069
On June 17 2016 03:00 Numy wrote:
Does anyone have small hand mouse suggestions? I'm feeling a change and want to look at options. Don't really know what's out there. Think the last mouse I used before this shitty microsoft one was a SS Sensei which was pretty cool. Before that was the MX518 which is just godly :<

I love my G400 which also was super cheap, but apparently it has been phased out. I guess g402 is the succesor but personally I dont know it. Its also inexpensive tho.
Off-season = best season
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 16 2016 18:31 GMT
#26070
On June 17 2016 02:57 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 00:14 mordek wrote:
Has anyone been playing to get achievements? I love collecting those things. Some of these are going to be hard because of difficulty and also I'm garbage at that particular hero. Made sure to get my Reinhardt cute spray this morning :3


I put in some concerted effort to get some of the achievements I was missing from regular play on my 'main' classes(like, I played around my recall cooldown to get the Tracer one, made sure to go ham reflecting Bastions every time I saw them for the Genji one... I think those are the two I actually had to make an effort on.

Really the only achievement I'm missing for people I play regularly is the Zarya 70 energy for 60 seconds one... which might be the next one I put a real effort into getting as opposed to trying to get it through natural play(I thought I had it last night but apparently it wasn't a full minute, QQ).


Rapid Discord seems like it'll be the hardest to pull off even with concerted effort.

I really want the D.Va 4+ kill one but somewhere between beta and release everybody learned to just bolt when they hear D.Va's ultimate.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-16 18:35:21
June 16 2016 18:32 GMT
#26071
On June 17 2016 03:28 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 03:00 Numy wrote:
Does anyone have small hand mouse suggestions? I'm feeling a change and want to look at options. Don't really know what's out there. Think the last mouse I used before this shitty microsoft one was a SS Sensei which was pretty cool. Before that was the MX518 which is just godly :<

I love my G400 which also was super cheap, but apparently it has been phased out. I guess g402 is the succesor but personally I dont know it. Its also inexpensive tho.

I'll take a look thanks. Seems to be pretty oddly shaped oo

edit: Whelp our prices are fucking insane. So nothing is inexpensive it seems. The G502 is R100 less expensive wtf.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23470 Posts
June 16 2016 18:37 GMT
#26072
I thought I was slowly transforming into an old american white man when I thought bill oreilly was making a lot of sense on the late show

but then he was like yea we just need to make being a jihadi muslim illegal m8

nvm
aka Teutonica
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 16 2016 18:42 GMT
#26073
On June 17 2016 03:31 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 02:57 red_ wrote:
On June 17 2016 00:14 mordek wrote:
Has anyone been playing to get achievements? I love collecting those things. Some of these are going to be hard because of difficulty and also I'm garbage at that particular hero. Made sure to get my Reinhardt cute spray this morning :3


I put in some concerted effort to get some of the achievements I was missing from regular play on my 'main' classes(like, I played around my recall cooldown to get the Tracer one, made sure to go ham reflecting Bastions every time I saw them for the Genji one... I think those are the two I actually had to make an effort on.

Really the only achievement I'm missing for people I play regularly is the Zarya 70 energy for 60 seconds one... which might be the next one I put a real effort into getting as opposed to trying to get it through natural play(I thought I had it last night but apparently it wasn't a full minute, QQ).


Rapid Discord seems like it'll be the hardest to pull off even with concerted effort.

I really want the D.Va 4+ kill one but somewhere between beta and release everybody learned to just bolt when they hear D.Va's ultimate.

Convince somebody to play Zarya with you on Nepal or Lijiang~
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
June 16 2016 18:55 GMT
#26074
On June 17 2016 03:37 Slayer91 wrote:
I thought I was slowly transforming into an old american white man when I thought bill oreilly was making a lot of sense on the late show

but then he was like yea we just need to make being a jihadi muslim illegal m8

nvm

isnt a jihadi muslim a militant for a religion instead of a nation? isnt that already illegal except in the deep south USA?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
June 16 2016 19:00 GMT
#26075
On June 17 2016 03:26 killerdog wrote:
Is direct hit really something you want to be maximising that hard?

With how free ammo is in OW, surely you want to be firing zoning rockets into doorways/chokes whenever you don't have anything more useful to be doing, rather than only going for snipes.

Like, sure it's a proportionally stat overall, but trying to intentionally boost it could lead to pretty shitty habits in terms of actually just maximising your own usefulness.

That's because DH% is a shit stat, DH# on the other hand is imo really good metric to pay attention to.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
June 16 2016 19:03 GMT
#26076
On June 17 2016 04:00 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 03:26 killerdog wrote:
Is direct hit really something you want to be maximising that hard?

With how free ammo is in OW, surely you want to be firing zoning rockets into doorways/chokes whenever you don't have anything more useful to be doing, rather than only going for snipes.

Like, sure it's a proportionally stat overall, but trying to intentionally boost it could lead to pretty shitty habits in terms of actually just maximising your own usefulness.

That's because DH% is a shit stat, DH# on the other hand is imo really good metric to pay attention to.

had a game with 76 direct hits.... felt good man.... of course they had a reinhardt but still
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
June 16 2016 19:10 GMT
#26077
I love how happily he just takes every single criticism and adresses them. This interview made me want to go see the film :p

AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
June 16 2016 19:13 GMT
#26078
On June 17 2016 04:03 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 04:00 AlterKot wrote:
On June 17 2016 03:26 killerdog wrote:
Is direct hit really something you want to be maximising that hard?

With how free ammo is in OW, surely you want to be firing zoning rockets into doorways/chokes whenever you don't have anything more useful to be doing, rather than only going for snipes.

Like, sure it's a proportionally stat overall, but trying to intentionally boost it could lead to pretty shitty habits in terms of actually just maximising your own usefulness.

That's because DH% is a shit stat, DH# on the other hand is imo really good metric to pay attention to.

had a game with 76 direct hits.... felt good man.... of course they had a reinhardt but still

I played with someone who consistently hit 90-100 every game. And I thought I'm good with 40-50.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 16 2016 19:28 GMT
#26079
On June 17 2016 04:00 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 03:26 killerdog wrote:
Is direct hit really something you want to be maximising that hard?

With how free ammo is in OW, surely you want to be firing zoning rockets into doorways/chokes whenever you don't have anything more useful to be doing, rather than only going for snipes.

Like, sure it's a proportionally stat overall, but trying to intentionally boost it could lead to pretty shitty habits in terms of actually just maximising your own usefulness.

That's because DH% is a shit stat, DH# on the other hand is imo really good metric to pay attention to.


Certainly, and as I said, it's skewed by shields and stuff. It's a decent enough metric to watch just as a guide, but I know if I was particularly good or bad at direct hits during a game (Pharah air battles are fun as shit).
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 16 2016 19:30 GMT
#26080
4 days of job interviews. So tired....
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
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