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On June 16 2016 09:14 Dandel Ion wrote:
and gods response was to tell him to find better teammates iirc
pretty juicy

On June 16 2016 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
So, I kept hearing 6ah complain about OW solo queue but my experiences with it early on were pretty decent overall.
Decided last night and today to grind out a little on my own for fun.

Awful.
Just awful.
By far the worst part of it (to me) is the fact that 80% of the games you join after queuing are games that are either about to end in 30s or absolute stomps in the making. You are basically assured to join a horrible team with leavers and losses abound. Makes me wonder how ranked will deal with this---I'm assuming there won't be mid-game joining in ranked mode to prevent insta-losses affecting your stats?

Then of course there's typical solo-queue fare that exists in any game. The raging, the trash-talking, the terrible players (not fighting on the point, 3 snipers, etc). Not until I started playing these games did I feel what Red must feel every time he plays with us and we can't win. I am a horrible, awful player, and yet I manage to get 3-4 gold medals in a majority of my games, and still lose (and win sometimes too, obvs), but it's the feeling of 'I can't carry these assholes' that I truly thought I had left behind. I don't like it at all.

On June 16 2016 11:09 Eppa! wrote:

3 am weekday matchmaking is interesting, 1 guy plays winston vs 2 reaper comp and complains about mercy heals. played a game where I almost won with 3 tracers 3 genjis. The reality is that the "terrible matchmaking" is often just a product of snowballing.
People don't understand (as of now at shitty ratings) that every action has consequences. The hivemind parrots "the you should be flexible in picking" but they really don't understand the need to be flexible in playstyle and movement or at best they can fight vs some types and not others. You lose by not covering flanks and ot utilizing/countering concaves. There is also a lot of disagreement on how to utilize and create leverage. There is also slow push vs fast push vs ultibuilding vs looking for picks depending on the difference in team compositions and maps segments.

There is actually a lot to learn from shitty play because there is wilder meta especially as a lot of people don't understand how initial build order leads to an advantage at 3 base.

On June 17 2016 00:05 Requizen wrote:
I'm ready for some sort of ranked mode. Pick up games are fun but yeah they sometimes feel really one-sided. I guess that won't change too much with Ranked (because solo queue) but hey, you never know.

On June 17 2016 00:14 mordek wrote:
Has anyone been playing to get achievements? I love collecting those things. Some of these are going to be hard because of difficulty and also I'm garbage at that particular hero. Made sure to get my Reinhardt cute spray this morning :3

On June 17 2016 00:15 Redox wrote:

In general full team games should be more onesided than soloq games imo.

On June 17 2016 00:15 Redox wrote:

The nice thing about playing ranked is that you actually have something to play for. In unranked I dont care at all about win or lose, you end up with 50% anyway no matter if you try hard or not. Like my brother is a way better player than me but what does it matter, we both still win the same amount of games. So to me playing unranked feels like being in a hamster wheel. Nothing you do matters, you always end up at the same place as far as you can tell (since you cant see your mmr).

On June 17 2016 01:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:


Well that gets more into the focus on MMR vs the focus on personal improvement.

I've bounced around 55% win rate more or less, and none of it really matter because it's unranked. But I've been setting personal goals that I aim for to try and focus on mechanical improvements.

Aiming for:

• 100 damage absorbed per projected shield on Zarya
  
• 55% hook accuracy on Roadhog is what I consider decent, 60% is my current benchmark for "good"
  
• 35%+ direct rocket accuracy with Pharah (obviously skewed by shooting shields, but shut up red)
  

As I get more consistent with things like these, I increase my goal benchmarks. IDGAF about my MMR right now, but all these little improvements will be beneficial in the long run.

On June 16 2016 11:09 Eppa! wrote:

3 am weekday matchmaking is interesting, 1 guy plays winston vs 2 reaper comp and complains about mercy heals. played a game where I almost won with 3 tracers 3 genjis. The reality is that the "terrible matchmaking" is often just a product of snowballing.
People don't understand (as of now at shitty ratings) that every action has consequences. The hivemind parrots "the you should be flexible in picking" but they really don't understand the need to be flexible in playstyle and movement or at best they can fight vs some types and not others. You lose by not covering flanks and ot utilizing/countering concaves. There is also a lot of disagreement on how to utilize and create leverage. There is also slow push vs fast push vs ultibuilding vs looking for picks depending on the difference in team compositions and maps segments.

There is actually a lot to learn from shitty play because there is wilder meta especially as a lot of people don't understand how initial build order leads to an advantage at 3 base.

On June 17 2016 01:08 killerdog wrote:

Holyflare somehow has like 90% hook accuracy every game, with 20+ hooks fired.

I don't understand...

On June 17 2016 01:23 jcarlsoniv wrote:


Well, those are the cards you see, so I'd assume there's a bit of confirmation bias there.

I'm not sure about HF, but I tend to make a lot of low chance, high reward hook attempts (getting people on ledges, airborne enemies, getting flying hooks while I'm airborne, etc) that likely bring my accuracy rate down. I think I'm getting close to 50% average hook accuracy, but I might be falling slightly short of that at this moment (masteroverwatch is blocked at work for me, someone feel free to check Soniv#1962).

It could be that he's taking lower risk chances, he could be always grabbing fat tanks instead of the skinny carries or supports, as Redox mentioned it could be dependent on enemy skill, or he could just be a better Roadhog than I am (although I'd be a bit skeptical on that one only because I've played a LOT of Roadhog, not to teut my own horn or anything).

On June 17 2016 01:53 TheEmulator wrote:

Checked and you're at 48%.