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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 16 2014 14:18 GMT
#74401
I mean I guess they have low upfront cost removal spells?
Hey! How you doin'?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 16 2014 14:25 GMT
#74402
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 16 2014 14:29 GMT
#74403
On December 16 2014 23:25 krndandaman wrote:
on another note, iron juggernaut is hilarious in arena. 6/5 with a pyroblast op.

that requires picking warrior though
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 16 2014 14:30 GMT
#74404
Combine with pandas for multiple pyroblasts!
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 14:45:59
December 16 2014 14:31 GMT
#74405
Edit: about Rogues in arena, even with Sensei's super value, and cards like Tinkering Oil being quite powerful (buffing the weapon is nice but that effect for 4 seems expensive, considering the combo buffs for a random minion for an effect a Paladin card lets you apply freely for 1), aren't you pretty dependant on getting offered mechs (and the sensei out of all the rares you can get) to do well?
Plus their new combo cards cost 4, so they aren't easy to use early on either, for tempo.

Edit²: I don't understand that Shaman deck. @_@ Remove all the things, then rely on totems ot keep you healthy and create board "presence" through argus and flametongue, (and totemic might to stall/prevent removal better) until you can bloodlust and swing at people for 15 damage using innocuous totems?


I could actually do fairly well, considering I had 3 Dark Cultist and 3 Velen's Chosen (I pretty much beat a Warrior too when I played Micro-Machine turn 2, Velen's Chosen turn 3). I only did 3 wins because I fucked up on the last game (cultist and chosen in hand while going second, I had some other buffs/heals; he pretty much did the same thing to me, but one or two turns later and using cards he drew, not one he'd have had in hand... and I had a brain fart and used the coin on turn 1 instead of 2, leading to doing nothing during these while not having the coin later, so I gave him free tempo instead of putting huge pressure (biggest issue was his spider tank, using my combo on my turn 3 I'd have had a buffed Cultist to take out the spider before he could buff it, and been able to do the same until turn 6-7 for him to have enough mana to drop+buff).

But there's no point complaining about that (read: QQ post here) since it's an obvious mistake on my part, same with the other games I lose because of clear mistakes.
Plus he was a Priest himself so the issue wasn't necessarily me using that class. Thoughtstealing exactly the card he needed next turn (a big buff, SSC wouldn't have been enough) and one of the best my draft gave me made me pretty salty, for once that I had a decent draft.
On top of that he had very good cards himself (2 nova was already something I hadn't had in months, GvG in arena made it even rarer; my 2nd loss was to a warlock where our boards were to a standstill because of a combo of health > attack, taunts, and not enough mana for me to solidify my board, then heal after a trade, and he ended up drawing Hellfire my draft had no AoE) and I had to fight against that on my 1st game of the run.

I actually think I'd have done decent with that draft, 3x velen's chosen is stupidly good value, enhanco-mecano, stormwind champion, 2x force tank... but I fought that in the first game, and I derped hard in my 3rd loss. So not sure if good draft or priest clicking with me (with the awful draft RNG I've had the past month, 6-7 wins went from standard to "pretty good run" for me so I don't have the same expectations as you too).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 16 2014 14:43 GMT
#74406
On December 16 2014 23:31 Alaric wrote:
Je ne pouvais assez bien, étant donné que je eu trois foncé sectateur et 3 de Velen Chosen (je suis assez battu un guerrier aussi quand je jouais Micro-Machine tour 2, l'Élu de Velen tourner 3). Je ne ai fait que trois victoires, car je ai merdé sur le dernier match (sectaire et choisi dans la main tout en allant secondes, je avais d'autres buffs/guérit, il à peu près fait la même chose pour moi, mais un ou deux tours plus tard et l'utilisation de cartes il a attiré, pas celui qu'il aurait eu en main ... et je ai eu un pet de cerveau et utilisé la pièce au tour 1 au lieu de 2, conduisant à ne rien faire pendant ces tout en ne ayant pas la pièce plus tard, donc je lui ai donné gratuitement tempo au lieu de mettre une énorme pression (plus gros problème était son réservoir d' araignée, en utilisant mon combo sur mon tour "Je ai eu un sectateur polie pour prendre l'araignée avant qu'il ne puisse polir, et a été en mesure de faire la même chose jusqu'à ce que son tour 6 -7 pour lui d'avoir assez de mana pour déposer + améliorer).

Mais il est inutile se plaindre que, depuis ce est une erreur évidente de ma part, même avec les autres jeux que je perds à cause des erreurs évidentes.
En plus, il était un prêtre lui-même de sorte que la question ne était pas nécessairement me utilisait cette classe. Thoughtstealing exactement la carte qu'il faut prochain tour (un grand buff, SSC ne aurait pas été assez) et l'un des meilleurs de mon projet m'a donné m'a fait assez salé, pour une fois que je avais un projet décent.
En plus de cela, il avait de très bonnes cartes lui-même (2 nova était déjà quelque chose que je ne avais pas eu depuis des mois, GvG dans l'arène a encore plus rare; mon 2ème perte était à un démoniste où nos planches étaient à l'arrêt en raison d'un combo de la santé > attaque, railleries, et pas assez de mana pour moi de solidifier ma planche, puis guérir après un métier, et il a fini dessin Hellfire mon projet ne avait pas AoE) et je devais lutter contre ça sur mon 1er jeu de la course.

Je pense en fait je aurais fait décent avec ce projet, a choisi 3x velen est bêtement bonne valeur, enhanco-mecano , champion de Hurlevent, réservoir de force 2x ... mais je me suis battu que dans le premier jeu, et je derped dur dans mon 3ème la perte. Donc ne sais pas si bon tirage ou un prêtre cliquant avec moi (avec l'horrible projet de RNG Je ai eu le mois passé, 6-7 victoires allé de standard à " très bon run" pour moi, donc je ne ai pas les mêmes attentes que vous aussi).


Just keep playing, you'll get better over time. Take your losses in stride.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 14:51:27
December 16 2014 14:44 GMT
#74407
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 16 2014 14:48 GMT
#74408
On December 16 2014 23:44 krndandaman wrote:
I think velen's chosen is overrated. its good when you have a board, but most of the time as priest you're fighting to stabilize, let alone build a board. velen's is a dead card without a board and investing in buffing a minion before it can attack is too risky.

its alright but I value it as much as I do a blessing of kings in paladin (not too much).


Well except you have to factor in that priests can easily heal their cards for value whereas paladins cannot, making creature buffs on priest SLIGHTLY better. This is negated if pally has divine shield givers of course.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 16 2014 14:54 GMT
#74409
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 15:02:24
December 16 2014 14:59 GMT
#74410
That's why the Cultist+Velen's combo was so strong (I started 2nd most of my games), the cultist with its 4 health would survive to any 2-drop if coined out, forcing either removal (say execute from a warrior) or a charge minion on their turn 3. Would also work with about anything that has 3 HP, considering the +2 attack should make make any drop able to kill most 1~3-drops regardless of its own attack.
Also works well with the minion-dropping mechs (that's what my Priest opponent did: he got a Defias from the 4-drop mech, I had 4 HP left on my buffed minion, he used the velen's chosen he thoughtstole to kill it and survive, swinging the tempo in his favour) unless you're so behind that your opponent can kill both it and the drop (similar to a harvest golem, but usually sturdier since most 2-drops have 2 HP), in case you don't have the coin for turn 2 shenanigans.

As for Rogues in arena I dunno, they still get a lot of their tempo from weapons so you need some mix of finishers/heals/taunts to not just die if you don't kill them with a mixture of removal+drops early on. On the other hand, it's true that AoE being harder to come by in GvG arena helps them...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 16 2014 15:02 GMT
#74411
Or you could just be a real man and roll Velen's Ooze like I do.

Deck is like... 8-1, with only a loss to control Pally + Show Spoiler +
Oh... and I'm at Rank 18. LOL
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SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
December 16 2014 15:04 GMT
#74412
Normally morbid news alerts don't affect me. But today's events.... were deeply upsetting.

Sorry about bringing up something like this randomly.
Just had to get this out somewhere.

RIP
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 15:08:36
December 16 2014 15:05 GMT
#74413
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 16 2014 15:13 GMT
#74414
On December 17 2014 00:04 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Normally morbid news alerts don't affect me. But today's events.... were deeply upsetting.

Sorry about bringing up something like this randomly.
Just had to get this out somewhere.

RIP


Yeah that's a tragedy unto itself. I feel so badly for all the parents who have to do nothing and wait to hear the bad news.
Hey! How you doin'?
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 16 2014 15:14 GMT
#74415
On December 17 2014 00:04 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Normally morbid news alerts don't affect me. But today's events.... were deeply upsetting.

Sorry about bringing up something like this randomly.
Just had to get this out somewhere.

RIP


Condolences.
I am the Town Medic.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 16:09:46
December 16 2014 15:58 GMT
#74416
On December 17 2014 00:04 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Normally morbid news alerts don't affect me. But today's events.... were deeply upsetting.

Sorry about bringing up something like this randomly.
Just had to get this out somewhere.

RIP


Yeah, it's been a rough couple days already. I'm hoping you weren't personally associated with anyone affected. Targeting kids, especially in a school, is just despicable.
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 16 2014 17:58 GMT
#74417
On December 17 2014 00:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 00:04 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Normally morbid news alerts don't affect me. But today's events.... were deeply upsetting.

Sorry about bringing up something like this randomly.
Just had to get this out somewhere.

RIP


Yeah, it's been a rough couple days already. I'm hoping you weren't personally associated with anyone affected. Targeting kids, especially in a school, is just despicable.

shit I just heard about this, that's fucked up.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
December 16 2014 18:02 GMT
#74418
I checked the news to see what you guys were talking about and I don't have words for this. I'm baffled as to why anyone would do that.

Condolences for such a tragedy.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 16 2014 18:14 GMT
#74419
Can we talk about something more cheerful? Has anyone else watched Marco Polo? I'd say they're pretty clearly going for a Game of Thronesy atmosphere, minus magic I guess.
I am the Town Medic.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 16 2014 18:17 GMT
#74420
It reminded me more of the Tudors than Game of Thrones. but yeah they are definitely going for HBO-style.
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