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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Had two 60g dailies with hunter so I made a deck and I won 5 in a row, and ranked straight up to 15. I feel disgusting. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
just keep in mind that with priest you don't beat the cancer. you just put a bigger and more homosexual cancer on top of it. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
1) Priest, though you still need good draws; bad draws will shaft you against hunter still 2) Warrior, you need really good draws, but the inclusion of Shield Maiden is huge for Warrior Handlock vs Hunter is NOT a good matchup for Handlock, and anyone who says that is silly. Hunter has always been one of Handlocks most difficult matchups, since without an Ancient Watcher+Owl opener, and a few mortal coils in hand, Hunter damage snowballs far too fast, and Hunters can burst through that last bits of damage through taunts with hero power and kill commands. Or silence T5 taunts. Handlocks can win but god no. Druids do well vs Hunter, though it does depend on the archetype and the tech cards. And the opener. Keeper+wrath+swipe in opener will shut down non-control hunters. Freeze Mage can potentially do well against Face hunter, actually. Since Freeze Mages run x2 Ice Barriers and x2 Ice Blocks, and Face Hunter does not run flare in the deck. Freeze Mage does well in the current meta against every deck archetype except for Warrior, actually. The "no mo' flare" thing that really gated it. On December 14 2014 03:10 Dandel Ion wrote: just keep in mind that with priest you don't beat the cancer. you just put a bigger and more homosexual cancer on top of it. xD But are you seriously contesting that face hunter is not the most cancer and BM deck out there. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On December 14 2014 02:23 WaveofShadow wrote: Wtf beats face hunter? Had two 60g dailies with hunter so I made a deck and I won 5 in a row, and ranked straight up to 15. I feel disgusting. did you see day9's day off yesterday? he laddered from rank 14 to rank 7 with only 2 losses, both being horrible misplays on his part. the deck: mage giants with echo. i felt so bad for all his opponents having to play vs the anti fun. he just anti-funned all over every deck, control warrior, face hunter, priests, hand locks, zoo, everything. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On December 14 2014 03:19 PrinceXizor wrote: did you see day9's day off yesterday? he laddered from rank 14 to rank 7 with only 2 losses, both being horrible misplays on his part. the deck: mage giants with echo. i felt so bad for all his opponents having to play vs the anti fun. he just anti-funned all over every deck, control warrior, face hunter, priests, hand locks, zoo, everything. No Freeze Mage matchup? Pls. Also, I'm tempted to dust off my Giants mage, but eh. Freeze Mage still better. Even if Giants Mage is suppose to beat Freeze Mage. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On December 14 2014 03:23 Lord Tolkien wrote: No Freeze Mage matchup? Pls. Also, I'm tempted to dust off my Giants mage, but eh. Freeze Mage still better. he beat a mage or two, i can't remember if they were freeze mages or not, they got destroyed so quickly it was hard to tell. I have no doubt the deck day9 made is the best mage deck, it didn't lose except when he did some really stupid shit like throw away minions for nothing and miss lethal followed by saccing board control for nothing. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On December 14 2014 03:23 PrinceXizor wrote: he beat a mage or two, i can't remember if they were freeze mages or not, they got destroyed so quickly it was hard to tell. Technically Giants Mage should beat Freeze Mage. Save Alex to self-heal after an Iceblock, and then re-ice block. But it depends. The matchup is tricky, but Giants should always beat Freeze. I was running Duplicate Giants way back when Naxx came up. Looking at Day[9]'s decklist, there's not much difference between it or even the more modern Crusher Handmage deck. http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/104460-crusher-handmage-legendary | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Do i drink it? Do i not? Also noticed they were running rather low on them in the store compared to usual. Coincidence or master-advertising. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On December 14 2014 03:26 PrinceXizor wrote: whatever day9 proved to the world the true cancer deck is mage. and i love him for that, even if he had to make a pact with satancancer itself to do so. Err, no. Handlocks crush Giants Mage. Shadowflame a Giant and boom. Hunters (regular, Midrange hunters) should crush Hand mage too unless they're bad, especially since Day[9] is only running Belchers for taunters. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On December 14 2014 03:30 Lord Tolkien wrote: Err, no. Handlocks crush Giants Mage. Hunters (regular, Midrange hunters) should crush Hand mage too unless they're bad, especially since Day[9] is only running Belchers for taunters. every hand lock lost to him. every one. don't try to tell me you know better than how things literally happened and its verifiable. I'm going to trust something with actual proof behind it rather than your opinion. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On December 14 2014 03:31 PrinceXizor wrote: every hand lock lost to him. every one. don't try to tell me you know better than how things literally happened and its verifiable. I'm going to trust something with actual proof behind it rather than your opinion. banmatch LT vs PX, let's do this | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On December 14 2014 03:32 Scip wrote: Actually, doesn't the guy that plants a bomb in your deck kinda rekk freeze mage? Because it kills you through ice block, doesn't it? thats a warrior legendary. yeah and fatigue wrecks ice block too. On December 14 2014 03:32 Scip wrote: banmatch LT vs PX, let's do this ? you mean LT vs day9. i don't even have half the cards in that deck. and besides, the burden of proof is not on me. i have a video supporting me, he has only his opinion. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
Also PX: I played Duplicate Giants ~Rank 5 for ~2 months after Naxx release. I know what I'm talking about lol. It's mostly evidence that the handlocks he played against were bad (they usually are before rank ~10), or never had experience vs Duplicate/Handmage. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On December 14 2014 03:35 Lord Tolkien wrote: Iron Juggernaut does, but Warrior was already a terrible, terrible matchup for Freeze Mage. Also PX: I played Duplicate Giants ~Rank 5 for ~2 months after Naxx release. I know what I'm talking about lol. It's mostly evidence that the handlocks he played against were bad (they usually are before rank ~10), or never had experience vs Duplicate/Handmage. or the new cards he added improved the deck? that couldnt be it could it? no, you clearly perfected the deck for all expansions back when naxx came out. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On December 14 2014 03:36 PrinceXizor wrote: or the new cards he added improved the deck? that couldnt be it could it? no, you clearly perfected the deck for all expansions back when naxx came out. Echo doesn't change anything lol, it's a win-moar card. You could already flood the board with Giants via Duplicate. Day[9]'s deck isn't even running Fireballs (I wasn't right before I dropped it in the face of the unending hordes of huntards, but still). Fireballs+Frostbolts are what made every control Mage deck good against Handlock. Flame cannon+explosive sheep, while important tech (and really far more important than Echo in shoring up Giants mage, imo: they needed an early, non-doomsayer clear, especially one that could kill a 4hp undertaker). Giants mage should be stronger, but the matchups aren't radically different. Face hunters aren't running flare (as I noted, that's why Freeze Mage is actually good against it), but it's still run semi-regularly in midrange hunter decks. | ||
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