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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 18:56:59
December 02 2014 18:56 GMT
#71621
On December 03 2014 03:54 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 03:39 Alzadar wrote:
On December 03 2014 03:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 03 2014 03:36 Alzadar wrote:
On December 03 2014 03:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 03 2014 03:30 Alzadar wrote:
On December 03 2014 03:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Anima golem is terrible unless you silence it since there's a destroy check on EACH turn.


You need to give it a stealthed battle-buddy.

Also apparently Tree of Life + Auchenai Soulpriest = Everyone dies.


"restore to full health" is different than a heal, and so wouldn't be affected by auchenai


Not true. Restore to full health -> heal for a character's total health. This interaction is confirmed by Brode btw.



Well that's dumb and I disagree with the wording of the cards...

edit - I'm fine with the interaction, but it should be more explicit


Hearthstone favors simplicity over precision, it's a bit annoying but you just need to learn the rules.

This was already in place btw, Ancestral Healing + Auchenai kills anything.

What I wonder is how Armor affects this. If a Druid has 30 health +1 armor, will they survive Auchenai Tree of Life with 1 health?


I'm fairly certain that if you go to 0 health you die regardless of armor. It's rare that that happens but I think that's how it works.


That is true, but I don't think you will go to 0 health - Auchenai + Tree will deal 30 damage to both heroes, and you will survive if had more than 30 health + armor. That's my understanding at least.

I'm pretty sure a Divine Shield minion will survive Auchenai + Ancestral Healing, though that isn't quite the same.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
December 02 2014 18:59 GMT
#71622
how can you lose health before armour?
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 02 2014 19:00 GMT
#71623
Currently you can't (except Alex), but this card is new territory so it isn't clear. I think you still can't though.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 02 2014 19:02 GMT
#71624
I batter them, add salt and stuff, then pour them in the pan I sauted the mushrooms in (I put the mushrooms in the saucepan I battered the eggs in before pouring the whole thing back). But because the air vent isn't too close to the plates whenever I heat stuff the vapor condenses in droplets on the wall beside and the shelf on top of them, still I don't think enough droplets would fall back.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 02 2014 19:03 GMT
#71625
On December 03 2014 03:54 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 23:25 Alaric wrote:
On December 02 2014 22:00 Eppa! wrote:
On December 02 2014 09:56 Alaric wrote:
I still can't consistently get my steaks medium-rare, despite liking it more than rare. Prob has to do with timing, not sure what else I could be doing wrong (I could get them medium-rare, but by then the exterior would end up crispy).
I also need to find a better may to dry my mushrooms without making my omelette more liquid than it needs to. It's not as good when it's basically mush brought together and cooked compared to when I can get it to solidify in a few blocks and cook it more uniformly, and it's always harder when I put shrooms in, even after I cook them a bit to dry them.

Flipping it every 30 seconds should let it get a higher temp while not burning it. Either you add the mushrooms raw at the end when you fold the omelette or you saute them before/separately so you get most of the moisture out of the mushrooms.

YupI saute them beforehand. But there's probably some moisture remaining (or falling back to the pan) and that's why it has a harder time solidifying. The thing is I can't really flip it before it starts solidifying, and that's where I have trouble when I put mushrooms in (it barely solidifies and does so in small chunks, hence the "mush"-thing).

Moisture shouldn't be an issue you stir the eggs when you put it into the pan right?

Every guy should know how to cook a steak imo. Obv sous vide at home is out of the question for most people, so use your oven instead. Grill to get the char on the outside, then into the oven it goes to get it cooked on the inside. If you're cooking on a stove top, it won't come out as well imo.

Not my usual way of making eggs but Gordon Ramsey's method of scrambling eggs is pretty good. Comes out very moist and fluffy, more former than latter though. I tried it both way and I prefer mixing the eggs in a bowl first then into the pan. Stir frequently while in pan still.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 19:05:28
December 02 2014 19:03 GMT
#71626
Woah, did anyone link/post this yet?
  • Soulfire now costs 1 (up from 0)
    Soulfire, along with fast and powerful minions, allowed Warlock rush decks to get ahead on the board and stay ahead. We’ve upped Soulfire’s mana cost by 1 to slow down the Warlock rush deck just a bit and allow more players time to react and interact against the Warlock.

  • Gadgetzan Auctioneer now costs 6 (up from 5)
    Gadgetzan Auctioneer’s ability allows for a player to potentially draw many cards for little cost. Card draw and card advantage are important to the game—overall, games are less interesting when a player draws their entire deck. This change brings Gadgetzan Auctioneer’s cost more in line with its power level.

  • Flare now costs 2 (up from 1)
    Flare allowed the Hunter an advantage versus decks that revolve around Secrets, while also allowing the Hunter to draw a card for little cost. We want to encourage a variety of decks in Hearthstone. With this change, Flare will continue to be useful against decks playing Secrets, but will be weaker against other decks

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/15490329072?utm_expid=68589644-24.yOgsCsWhSz-gOSDIbl82Wg.0&utm_referrer=http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/12492997/

Looks like I'm late. Oh well, I didn't see any discussion so please forgive me friends.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 19:05:33
December 02 2014 19:03 GMT
#71627
On December 03 2014 04:00 Alzadar wrote:
Currently you can't (except Alex), but this card is new territory so it isn't clear. I think you still can't though.

Auchenai isn't new territory though, which is what defines the damage interaction.

The only question is HOW MUCH damage is dealt. The damage conversion is going to be consistent with the heal/damage conversion done by Auchenai for other heals.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 19:08:32
December 02 2014 19:07 GMT
#71628
On December 03 2014 03:46 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 03:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 03 2014 03:39 Alzadar wrote:
On December 03 2014 03:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 03 2014 03:36 Alzadar wrote:
On December 03 2014 03:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 03 2014 03:30 Alzadar wrote:
On December 03 2014 03:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Anima golem is terrible unless you silence it since there's a destroy check on EACH turn.


You need to give it a stealthed battle-buddy.

Also apparently Tree of Life + Auchenai Soulpriest = Everyone dies.


"restore to full health" is different than a heal, and so wouldn't be affected by auchenai


Not true. Restore to full health -> heal for a character's total health. This interaction is confirmed by Brode btw.

https://twitter.com/bdbrode/status/539843584170532864


Well that's dumb and I disagree with the wording of the cards...

edit - I'm fine with the interaction, but it should be more explicit


Hearthstone favors simplicity over precision, it's a bit annoying but you just need to learn the rules.

This was already in place btw, Ancestral Healing + Auchenai kills anything.

What I wonder is how Armor affects this. If a Druid has 30 health +1 armor, will they survive Auchenai Tree of Life with 1 health?


It's not even about simplicity - just clarity. There's no reason not to word the card (and Ancestral Healing - I was unaware of this one) to say "Heal all characters to full health". The interaction still obviously applies, and it's straightforward.

It's just nitpicking, sure. But there's a reason Wizards defined and standardized key words in MtG


I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. The word "heal" isn't ever used in Hearthstone, it's always "restore".


Not 100% true. They use the word "Healed" but use "restore" instead of "heal". That's most likely where the confusion is coming into play which I think is an oversight by them.

On December 03 2014 04:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 03:54 Eppa! wrote:
On December 02 2014 23:25 Alaric wrote:
On December 02 2014 22:00 Eppa! wrote:
On December 02 2014 09:56 Alaric wrote:
I still can't consistently get my steaks medium-rare, despite liking it more than rare. Prob has to do with timing, not sure what else I could be doing wrong (I could get them medium-rare, but by then the exterior would end up crispy).
I also need to find a better may to dry my mushrooms without making my omelette more liquid than it needs to. It's not as good when it's basically mush brought together and cooked compared to when I can get it to solidify in a few blocks and cook it more uniformly, and it's always harder when I put shrooms in, even after I cook them a bit to dry them.

Flipping it every 30 seconds should let it get a higher temp while not burning it. Either you add the mushrooms raw at the end when you fold the omelette or you saute them before/separately so you get most of the moisture out of the mushrooms.

YupI saute them beforehand. But there's probably some moisture remaining (or falling back to the pan) and that's why it has a harder time solidifying. The thing is I can't really flip it before it starts solidifying, and that's where I have trouble when I put mushrooms in (it barely solidifies and does so in small chunks, hence the "mush"-thing).

Moisture shouldn't be an issue you stir the eggs when you put it into the pan right?

Every guy should know how to cook a steak imo. Obv sous vide at home is out of the question for most people, so use your oven instead. Grill to get the char on the outside, then into the oven it goes to get it cooked on the inside. If you're cooking on a stove top, it won't come out as well imo.

Not my usual way of making eggs but Gordon Ramsey's method of scrambling eggs is pretty good. Comes out very moist and fluffy, more former than latter though. I tried it both way and I prefer mixing the eggs in a bowl first then into the pan. Stir frequently while in pan still.


Wait to people actually not mix the eggs beforehand? Thought that's the normal way to do them.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 02 2014 19:09 GMT
#71629
On December 03 2014 04:03 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 04:00 Alzadar wrote:
Currently you can't (except Alex), but this card is new territory so it isn't clear. I think you still can't though.

Auchenai isn't new territory though, which is what defines the damage interaction.

The only question is HOW MUCH damage is dealt. The damage conversion is going to be consistent with the heal/damage conversion done by Auchenai for other heals.


Oh I see what you mean. Yes I think in no circumstances will Tree of Death leave you with Armor intact and 0 health. But it's unclear if it will hit you for 30 + armor or just 30.
I am the Town Medic.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 19:14:59
December 02 2014 19:12 GMT
#71630
Personally I think its already weird that "restore to full life" means "heal for an amount equal to max HP", rather than "heal for an amount equal to the character's missing HP (i.e. max - current)". Because that would be the most straightforward understanding of "heal to full". Why would "heal to full" imply any healing on something that's already full HP?
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
December 02 2014 19:13 GMT
#71631
Someone message me on Steam when Hearthstone is dead please.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
December 02 2014 19:15 GMT
#71632
On December 03 2014 04:13 red_ wrote:
Someone message me on Steam when Hearthstone is dead please.


Play once D:

I just want you to be happy! We can play doto later too!
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 02 2014 19:16 GMT
#71633
How many of you actually post on LH?
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 19:17:07
December 02 2014 19:16 GMT
#71634
On December 03 2014 04:12 TheYango wrote:
Personally I think its already weird that "restore to full life" means "heal for an amount equal to max HP", rather than "heal for an amount equal to the character's missing HP (i.e. max - current)". Because that would be the most straightforward understanding of "heal to full". Why would "heal to full" imply any healing on something that's already full HP?


Well, the only time this distinction matters at all is when Auchenai is in play. So that's why - it makes Soulpriest better.

On December 03 2014 04:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
How many of you actually post on LH?


I do a bit, but LiquidHearth is pretty dead TBH. There's basically as much discussion in this thread about card reveals as on LH.
I am the Town Medic.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 02 2014 19:17 GMT
#71635
On December 03 2014 04:13 red_ wrote:
Someone message me on Steam when Hearthstone is dead please.

Do you dislike all card games or just Hearthstone specially?
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
December 02 2014 19:17 GMT
#71636
On December 03 2014 04:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
How many of you actually post on LH?


I have 103 posts on liquid hearth, 101 of which were moved over from the subforum when it was TL.

Use that as a statistic.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 19:18:49
December 02 2014 19:18 GMT
#71637
On December 03 2014 04:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
How many of you actually post on LH?


lol

pls

edit - I do browse there occasionally, and I always run into a comment from mordek
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 02 2014 19:18 GMT
#71638
On December 03 2014 04:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
How many of you actually post on LH?


It's a pretty dead site. Don't really know why liquid expected such a casual game to have a big forum fanbase.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 02 2014 19:19 GMT
#71639
On December 03 2014 04:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
How many of you actually post on LH?

The only reason I check LH is to see if GuntherBovine is still basically the only person using the Blogs section.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 19:21:35
December 02 2014 19:20 GMT
#71640
Oh I wondered if Lightbomb was going to a be a thing at some point.

I post occasionally but it's never anything substantive really. Mostly just to encounter ideas and news.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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