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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 27 2014 04:15 GMT
#70761
I like that song a lot and was really sad when I realized it was the best song on that album.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 27 2014 04:26 GMT
#70762
On November 27 2014 13:00 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 12:53 iCanada wrote:
On November 27 2014 12:47 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 27 2014 12:45 iCanada wrote:
On November 27 2014 12:29 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 27 2014 12:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
I mean you're probably preaching to the choir in this thread. I doubt many people in this thread will defend our country's gun laws. Well idk about 6ah,he does live in Texas.

I think restrictions in place for gun types is a bit over done in this country especially in CA. But, I would advocate definitely for insanely strict background testing, along side fire arm competency training, and testing (sort of like Drivers Ed for guns).


Dont get me wrong, i'm from alberta. I'm about as redneck as Canadians come, and personally own 6 guns, and even ahve a restricted fire arms license (and a restricted fire arms travel permit... damn that one took a long as time... so many hoops) but I pretty well just flat out disagree with the fundamental idea that people have the right to bear arms.

I dont think having a firearm is a right, its a responsibility. Its like driving a car, but with significantly smaller margins of error, and much less costly to acquire.

I think the only way it should be legal to have a gun in an area that is not hunting grounds or a shooting range should be under strict legislation. It blows my mind how frequently kids get a hold of hand guns and kill people in the states. It just shouldn't happen.

A lot of it has to do with people acquiring guns without proper training or gun handling skills. It'd be just as irresponsible and stupid to give a brand new teenage driver a ferrari without course time.


Even then though, guns escalate any potential conflict by ridiculous amounts.

Imagine if that off-duty police officer (all racial issues aside) in ferguson didn't have a gun on him, the kid swears at the guy, he swears at the kid and thats the end of the story.

Instead, in the heat of the moment the kid goes for the gun and the guy shoots the kid out of fear, someone lost their life for nothing, and now a bunch of riots ensue. If the police officer just didn't have a gun whjile he was off duty its a nothing "man, i ran into the stupidest person today" story for each parties loved ones. No one benefited from that off-duty police officer having a gun in that instant, everyone lost.

a) he wasn't off duty
b) the "kid" (300lb 6'+) instigated the issue physically first by shoving the door close on the officer, and punching the officer while he's still in the car, all before the gun comes into play.
so get the story straight first.

secondly, one of my favorite quotes of all time "God made men, Samuel Colt made them equal."


Regardless of what happened, no gun and everyone probably walks away from that. There is wicked responsibility in that. I have no horse in that story, I dont really know the story too well, maybe i was wrong from the start.

I do think no one dies though if the first instinct isn't the gun.

Samuel Colt might have made every man holding a colt equal, but when only one is, it kind of tilts the scales.

I suppose we should agree to disagree here, i dont think either of us will convince the other of anything other than that we disagree, which has already happened.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 27 2014 04:28 GMT
#70763
I love it every time it comes on the radio. I know the history behind the song is a little depressing, but the chorus always brings a smile to my face. It makes me think of some of my own relationships.
It's your boy Guzma!
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
November 27 2014 04:32 GMT
#70764
What song
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 27 2014 04:37 GMT
#70765
It's your boy Guzma!
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
November 27 2014 04:56 GMT
#70766
Seven hells! I go away to do prep work and you guys get into stupid gun debate. Ain't nobody want to discuss that in any serious capacity. Even more so on a thread where two pages the topic was about warhammer, counter strike and magic the gathering.

Tis a silly topic to bring up I feel.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 27 2014 04:57 GMT
#70767
Just finished up Naxx and I enjoyed my time with it. No desire to play any of the heroic matches though lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 27 2014 05:15 GMT
#70768
Man Wei, I was just reading you spouting racist, uneducated crap in the politics thread, do I have to read you spouting it in off topic too.

Where's the pokemans.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
November 27 2014 05:22 GMT
#70769
This thread got real for a bit there. When can we start shitting on Jeff again.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 27 2014 05:29 GMT
#70770
On November 27 2014 13:26 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 13:00 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 27 2014 12:53 iCanada wrote:
On November 27 2014 12:47 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 27 2014 12:45 iCanada wrote:
On November 27 2014 12:29 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 27 2014 12:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
I mean you're probably preaching to the choir in this thread. I doubt many people in this thread will defend our country's gun laws. Well idk about 6ah,he does live in Texas.

I think restrictions in place for gun types is a bit over done in this country especially in CA. But, I would advocate definitely for insanely strict background testing, along side fire arm competency training, and testing (sort of like Drivers Ed for guns).


Dont get me wrong, i'm from alberta. I'm about as redneck as Canadians come, and personally own 6 guns, and even ahve a restricted fire arms license (and a restricted fire arms travel permit... damn that one took a long as time... so many hoops) but I pretty well just flat out disagree with the fundamental idea that people have the right to bear arms.

I dont think having a firearm is a right, its a responsibility. Its like driving a car, but with significantly smaller margins of error, and much less costly to acquire.

I think the only way it should be legal to have a gun in an area that is not hunting grounds or a shooting range should be under strict legislation. It blows my mind how frequently kids get a hold of hand guns and kill people in the states. It just shouldn't happen.

A lot of it has to do with people acquiring guns without proper training or gun handling skills. It'd be just as irresponsible and stupid to give a brand new teenage driver a ferrari without course time.


Even then though, guns escalate any potential conflict by ridiculous amounts.

Imagine if that off-duty police officer (all racial issues aside) in ferguson didn't have a gun on him, the kid swears at the guy, he swears at the kid and thats the end of the story.

Instead, in the heat of the moment the kid goes for the gun and the guy shoots the kid out of fear, someone lost their life for nothing, and now a bunch of riots ensue. If the police officer just didn't have a gun whjile he was off duty its a nothing "man, i ran into the stupidest person today" story for each parties loved ones. No one benefited from that off-duty police officer having a gun in that instant, everyone lost.

a) he wasn't off duty
b) the "kid" (300lb 6'+) instigated the issue physically first by shoving the door close on the officer, and punching the officer while he's still in the car, all before the gun comes into play.
so get the story straight first.

secondly, one of my favorite quotes of all time "God made men, Samuel Colt made them equal."


Regardless of what happened, no gun and everyone probably walks away from that. There is wicked responsibility in that. I have no horse in that story, I dont really know the story too well, maybe i was wrong from the start.

I do think no one dies though if the first instinct isn't the gun.

Samuel Colt might have made every man holding a colt equal, but when only one is, it kind of tilts the scales.

I suppose we should agree to disagree here, i dont think either of us will convince the other of anything other than that we disagree, which has already happened.

All I know, is if you're crazy enough to assault a police officer that's clearly carrying a gun, and is in his vehicle. That's not a person who's sane enough to stop at "just beating you up and stopping". Sure maybe if Wilson was a high level martial artist, could have resolved the issue of a charging Mike Brown without death. Maybe finish it off with a triangle choke, but guess what the media headlines would be? "White officer uses dangerous blood choke on young black kid, you can't believe what he got away with!" Remember just a couple months before this, an officer got in trouble for using an RNC on a black dude, and it ended up killing him (even though it was properly applied and well within normal range of hold), the entire media lighted him up. "WHY DID HE USE SUCH A DANGEROUS MOVE?!", meanwhile in BJJ dojo's all around the world just chuckled at the media headlines. The situation and racial tension in Ferguson (and the rest of the US), was running high, almost any outcome of the incident involving Mike Browns actions, and Wilson's obligation as a cop would have ended extremely poorly.
liftlift > tsm
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
November 27 2014 05:33 GMT
#70771
Please, some moderator shut Wei up.

I do not want to read about the Michael Brown shooting in this thread.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 05:35:29
November 27 2014 05:35 GMT
#70772
I think that event shows that police needs to wear dash cams while on duty. It's not about guns.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 05:37:53
November 27 2014 05:36 GMT
#70773
After reading the post I realize I misinterpreted what wei said. Still a pretty ridiculous post overall though.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 05:40:51
November 27 2014 05:38 GMT
#70774
On November 27 2014 14:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
You consider shooting an unarmed individual as an "obligation as a cop?"

wei pls.

I consider someone crazy enough to instigate an unprovoked assault against a police officer in his vehicle a danger to society. Of which it's the obligation as a cop to arrest said individual.
On November 27 2014 14:35 Sufficiency wrote:
I think that event shows that police needs to wear dash cams while on duty. It's not about guns.

this.
On November 27 2014 14:33 Ketara wrote:
Please, some moderator shut Wei up.

I do not want to read about the Michael Brown shooting in this thread.

Racism would imply I hate a race. I don't think anything I said in the US Politics megathread showed any of that.
liftlift > tsm
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 27 2014 05:38 GMT
#70775
Wavebaiting strikes again I guess?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 27 2014 05:39 GMT
#70776
reminder that this thread was formed to talk about Pokemon and Costco and Wei is ruINING MY FUCKING VIBE
It's your boy Guzma!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 27 2014 05:41 GMT
#70777
GOD DO I LOVE CANDY AND POPCORN AND BUBBLEGUM AND RABBITS

AND FISH PUNS

LETS GO BACK
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 27 2014 05:41 GMT
#70778
On November 27 2014 14:39 Requizen wrote:
reminder that this thread was formed to talk about Pokemon and Costco and Wei is ruINING MY FUCKING VIBE

Then why the fuck are you talking about your dolls?
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 27 2014 05:42 GMT
#70779
On November 27 2014 14:38 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 14:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
You consider shooting an unarmed individual as an "obligation as a cop?"

wei pls.

I consider someone crazy enough to instigate an unprovoked assault against a police officer in his vehicle a danger to society. Of which it's the obligation as a cop to arrest said individual.
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 14:35 Sufficiency wrote:
I think that event shows that police needs to wear dash cams while on duty. It's not about guns.

this.

So an obligation to arrest gives an officer the right to shoot an unarmed individual? Okay.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 05:44:59
November 27 2014 05:44 GMT
#70780
On November 27 2014 14:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 14:38 wei2coolman wrote:
On November 27 2014 14:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
You consider shooting an unarmed individual as an "obligation as a cop?"

wei pls.

I consider someone crazy enough to instigate an unprovoked assault against a police officer in his vehicle a danger to society. Of which it's the obligation as a cop to arrest said individual.
On November 27 2014 14:35 Sufficiency wrote:
I think that event shows that police needs to wear dash cams while on duty. It's not about guns.

this.

So an obligation to arrest gives an officer the right to shoot an unarmed individual? Okay.

That's why the obligation to arrest is met with the actions similar to that of Mike Brown, the result is never pretty.

And you want to see what an unarmed person can do to another human being? just look up mike tyson fights.

Hell 40 year old george foreman was still knocking people out with a single shot, unarmed doesn't mean "not dangerous".
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