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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
November 17 2014 19:31 GMT
#69121
Curse you Asmo.
Your roguelike blog post got me back into Dungeons of Dredmor.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
November 17 2014 19:31 GMT
#69122
On November 18 2014 04:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
Why would you not add 1x Sapper?


It only costs 3 which means it's a thing we can have early which is nice. I was generally avoiding all other creatures in order to alleviate the fact that ancestor's is random. It's not bad and we could probably honestly run 2.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 17 2014 19:31 GMT
#69123
On November 18 2014 04:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
i just watched my coworker use his iPad as a plate for a doughnut


Plz kill and send ipad to me ty.
Useless wet fish.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
November 17 2014 19:32 GMT
#69124
On November 18 2014 04:25 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 04:24 Alzadar wrote:
That deck is fucking awful dude. Chances of dead hand until turn 5 are astronomical.


You must not have ever played control in magic lol.


No, but I have played Hearthstone, a game where you are pretty fucked if you have no play until turn 5 as a class with no healing and no hard wipe.
I am the Town Medic.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 17 2014 19:33 GMT
#69125
On November 18 2014 04:31 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 04:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
Why would you not add 1x Sapper?


It only costs 3 which means it's a thing we can have early which is nice. I was generally avoiding all other creatures in order to alleviate the fact that ancestor's is random. It's not bad and we could probably honestly run 2.

it just seems like a card good enough to force control cards out early in the control vs control matchup. you don't want to see your bigs get torn down right as they get out, so sappers will be big targets for decks saving up cards.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
November 17 2014 19:35 GMT
#69126
On November 18 2014 04:32 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 04:25 Cixah wrote:
On November 18 2014 04:24 Alzadar wrote:
That deck is fucking awful dude. Chances of dead hand until turn 5 are astronomical.


You must not have ever played control in magic lol.


No, but I have played Hearthstone, a game where you are pretty fucked if you have no play until turn 5 as a class with no healing and no hard wipe.


We'll just have to wait and see then. Even if I know I'm right .
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 17 2014 19:38 GMT
#69127
On November 18 2014 04:32 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 04:25 Cixah wrote:
On November 18 2014 04:24 Alzadar wrote:
That deck is fucking awful dude. Chances of dead hand until turn 5 are astronomical.


You must not have ever played control in magic lol.


No, but I have played Hearthstone, a game where you are pretty fucked if you have no play until turn 5 as a class with no healing and no hard wipe.


I'm with the zombie on this one. Health is a resource.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 19:43:12
November 17 2014 19:39 GMT
#69128
Welp. Stumbled upon a Druid, couldn't do a thing because despite playing on curve every turn I couldn't deal with the bullshit card value.
Druid is so frustrating to play against, even in Arena. ><

Then again, starfall, 2 spellbreakers, 2 wraths, 2 swipes, innervate, druid of the claw is a ton of good shit.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
November 17 2014 19:40 GMT
#69129
I'm still unclear on how Ancestor's Call actually works, has Blizzard clarified? But I can't see any interpretation that would allow it to be the basis for a deck.
I am the Town Medic.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 17 2014 19:47 GMT
#69130
If Druid can afford to play with 0 minions under 4 mana cost, then so can Chaman with such a card (using their 2-cost weapon, the 3-cost spell that summons wolves, rockbiter, lightining strike, etc. to hold till turn 4, and aggressive mulligan to bring a powerhouse with ancestor's call in your starting hand).
It could lose to some super-aggressive decks, but consider all the stuff available from Nax that shits on aggro and G&G that seems to have its own, it's dubious whether you're going to see a lot of aggro/early game from the cards we've seen so far.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 17 2014 19:49 GMT
#69131
On November 18 2014 00:36 PrinceXizor wrote:
Ahhh not wanting pokemon or smash pays off, yet again.

Ahhh at least I'm not a culture-less plebeian.

On November 18 2014 01:06 Numy wrote:
Should I buy skullgirls for 5 dollars?

Yeh it's got great art and it's fun.

On November 18 2014 03:54 Cixah wrote:
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On November 18 2014 03:51 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 18 2014 03:49 Cixah wrote:
Haha

Ancestor's Call is over powered as all hell and will be a deck.

lol I read it and thought "oh that's neat but seems sort of situational." This is why I'm bad at card games.


http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=show and tell

This card is a staple and usually runs Upwards of 80 plus dollars.

It's true that a lot of busted cards is Legacy are busted because you can take a symmetrical affect and then make it really imbalanced by building your deck around it. But the randomness is a real drawback. It's definitely good, but it's not Show and Tell level good (especially because of the lack of card draw and selection in HS). Could definitely build a deck around it though.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 17 2014 19:50 GMT
#69132
Trying to juggle way too many games seriously atm. FF14 (literally just bought), Archeage (Probably dropping this FOR ff14.), Hearthstone, League, CSGO + Like 10 single player games + Wife and job and social life.

Its really impossibru. How do i trim the fat?

Also does anyone else pick up Civ randomly and play it religiously for like a week or two then suddenly wake up and forget about it again? Really weird how i do that every now and then.
Useless wet fish.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 17 2014 19:52 GMT
#69133
Well HS I think don't take too seriously and MMOs are a waste of time. I've done that exact same thing with Civ. I played it solidly for a week then haven't played since.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 17 2014 19:52 GMT
#69134
On November 18 2014 04:35 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 04:32 Alzadar wrote:
On November 18 2014 04:25 Cixah wrote:
On November 18 2014 04:24 Alzadar wrote:
That deck is fucking awful dude. Chances of dead hand until turn 5 are astronomical.


You must not have ever played control in magic lol.


No, but I have played Hearthstone, a game where you are pretty fucked if you have no play until turn 5 as a class with no healing and no hard wipe.


We'll just have to wait and see then. Even if I know I'm right .

It depends on how the game shapes up as a whole, but Ancestor's Call doesn't exactly swing the game against control Shaman's hard matchups.

Like, aside from Ancestor's, the rest of that deck's core has been played before, and I don't see how Ancestor's saves your game against the decks that already beat it.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 17 2014 19:53 GMT
#69135
On November 18 2014 04:49 MoonBear wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 01:06 Numy wrote:
Should I buy skullgirls for 5 dollars?

Yeh it's got great art and it's fun.



Do you need an arcade stick, or is it serviceable with an xbox controller?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 17 2014 19:58 GMT
#69136
On November 18 2014 04:32 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2014 04:25 Cixah wrote:
On November 18 2014 04:24 Alzadar wrote:
That deck is fucking awful dude. Chances of dead hand until turn 5 are astronomical.


You must not have ever played control in magic lol.


No, but I have played Hearthstone, a game where you are pretty fucked if you have no play until turn 5 as a class with no healing and no hard wipe.


You get to drop three totems at worst. That's not fantastic, but it's better than most classes can manage.

That said I'd definitely add in 2xStormforged Axe, 2xFar Sight, and maybe swap a Doomhammer out for an Earth Shock.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 17 2014 20:13 GMT
#69137
Out of curiosity, let's say you have Ancestor's Call, Coin and a Sludge Belcher in hand (amongst interesting stuff like Earth Ele orYsera, obviously), it's turn 4. Do you Coin the Sludge Belcher to "get rid of it" and play Ancestor's Call turn 5, delaying it, or do you for the RNG big play and cast Ancestor's Call hoping it doesn't pick the Belcher?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 17 2014 20:14 GMT
#69138
On November 18 2014 05:13 Alaric wrote:
Out of curiosity, let's say you have Ancestor's Call, Coin and a Sludge Belcher in hand (amongst interesting stuff like Earth Ele orYsera, obviously), it's turn 4. Do you Coin the Sludge Belcher to "get rid of it" and play Ancestor's Call turn 5, delaying it, or do you for the RNG big play and cast Ancestor's Call hoping it doesn't pick the Belcher?


I would say that entirely depends on how the board looks and what's in your hand.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 20:20:11
November 17 2014 20:17 GMT
#69139
Depends on opponent's class as well. You don't want to blindly 2-for-1 yourself.

Some matchups you need the big threat on the board, others you need to hold cards. Remember the value of Ancestor's isn't just as a turn 4 play but also that you can play it WITH other cards later.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 17 2014 20:23 GMT
#69140
Practically speaking turn 4 Ancestor's Call is going to be a huge gamble. Your opponent probably hasn't used any removal yet, so you need to dodge Hex/Polymorph/etc., and at the same time you won't have mana to remove whatever drops. So unless you're dropping something which comes into effect immediately (e.g. Ysera, Rag, Leeroy) you might get zero benefit out of the play.

I can see lulz happening though when you force a Miracle rogue to play Auctioneer Turn 5 and then Lightning Bolt it to death because you have a Wrath of Air Totem out.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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