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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 14:31:17
August 25 2014 14:31 GMT
#56661
While I dislike the actual format of Arena, the idea of playing Limited at low cost due to not needing to buy the actual cards is probably the best idea to come out of Hearthstone.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 25 2014 14:32 GMT
#56662
On August 25 2014 23:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 23:14 TheYango wrote:
I with MODO had a non-shit business model.


yeah, wizards really dropped the ball on that one

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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 25 2014 14:34 GMT
#56663
On August 25 2014 23:31 TheYango wrote:
While I dislike the actual format of Arena, the idea of playing Limited at low cost due to not needing to buy the actual cards is probably the best idea to come out of Hearthstone.


I love Arena format, but I've always loved drafting more than constructed. Granted, there's less strategy to Arena draft than a MtG draft, but it's still fun.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 14:36:10
August 25 2014 14:35 GMT
#56664
For the DMs out there:

http://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/2eiulo/dungeons_and_dragons_and_philosophy_to_what/

r/rpg is one of the better subreddits out there imo. Lots of fun and thought-provoking content.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 25 2014 14:37 GMT
#56665
He attacks each combat, not each turn.

How is this relevantly different unless you have an effect that gives you multiple combat phases and a way to untap/give him vigilance?
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 14:43:42
August 25 2014 14:42 GMT
#56666
On August 25 2014 23:26 Gahlo wrote:
It massively inflated the secondary market. Then they tried to do some reprints to lower the prices and bam, so many cards became MORE expensive.

That's....not specifically a fault of Modern itself per say? I mean like:

  • If you can't get cards you need in order to play Modern itself then the issue is Wizards not reprinting enough stuff even though nothing is on the reserved list rather than the format itself (and you want to be playing in that format to begin with which is why you're buying those cards)
  • If you can't get cards at the right price and you want to play Legacy then yes that sucks but again the issue is Wizards not printing enough cards (and at the same time it's Legacy I mean the dual lands are the issue here tbh)
  • If you can't get cards at the right price for EDH then I'm sorry although again the issue is Wizards not printing cards
  • If Standard is becoming too expensive or people aren't trading you stuff because they're also used in Modern then I think this is less of a problem because a lot of these cards are mainly expensive because of Standard more than anything else (lol Bonfires)
  • I am not sure what other reason you are specifically mad at the Modern format for? Again the real issue is Wizards not reprinting stuff, not the format itself.



On August 25 2014 23:37 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
He attacks each combat, not each turn.

How is this relevantly different unless you have an effect that gives you multiple combat phases and a way to untap/give him vigilance?

Well there's quite a few reasons though.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 14:44:53
August 25 2014 14:43 GMT
#56667
I'm excited from what I've read of 5th edition. Mostly due to them making tons of Dragonlance references. Which hopefully means they'll do something with dragonlance..

Not a big fan of the Drow thing however.

As to the article itself I mean alignment and good vs evil has always been long debated and often a possible way for a party to break up. The example of the party finding a room with a baby orc in it. By the manual it's an ork it's an evil creature, however it's a baby and killing an infant orc or not is repugnant. Is it? I guess it depends on how you view what is good or evil. Which is why I rather liked the idea of Paladins working off of what they believe is right rather then what is written down in some book.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 25 2014 14:45 GMT
#56668
On August 25 2014 23:43 Parnage wrote:
I'm excited from what I've read of 5th edition. Mostly due to them making tons of Dragonlance references. Which hopefully means they'll do something with dragonlance..

Not a big fan of the Drow thing however.

As to the article itself I mean alignment and good vs evil has always been long debated and often a possible way for a party to break up. The example of the party finding a room with a baby orc in it. By the manual it's an ork it's an evil creature, however it's a baby and killing an infant orc or not is repugnant. Is it? I guess it depends on how you view what is good or evil. Which is why I rather liked the idea of Paladins not so much working off of what they believe is right rather then what is written down in some book.


They mention that one in the comments. I was highly amused.

Obviously any time you try to mechanically quantify good and evil there are going to be problems. It was just fun reading some of the ideas and implications that extend from such a "ruleset."
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
August 25 2014 14:46 GMT
#56669
STOP THE PRESSES NEW SMASH LEAK:

Bowser Jr, Shulk Confirmed for Smash4.

The leak that everyone has been posting is real.

SO THAT MEANS.

No more Wolf or Lucas.
Ice Climbers are likely out or DLC.
DUCK HUNT DOG PSUDO CONFIRMED?!
Ganondorf is in, but is still a clone.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
August 25 2014 14:49 GMT
#56670
1. What's a Shulk?

2. I forgot 5th edition also mentioned the whole planes of reality ala Planescape. This further pleases me.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 25 2014 14:50 GMT
#56671
I pretty much never run by-the-book Paladins because the class as a whole is a pain in the ass to deal with on multiple levels.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 14:52:37
August 25 2014 14:51 GMT
#56672
On August 25 2014 23:46 Cixah wrote:
STOP THE PRESSES NEW SMASH LEAK:

Bowser Jr, Shulk Confirmed for Smash4.

The leak that everyone has been posting is real.

SO THAT MEANS.

No more Wolf or Lucas.
Ice Climbers are likely out or DLC.
DUCK HUNT DOG PSUDO CONFIRMED?!
Ganondorf is in, but is still a clone.


link plox

On August 25 2014 23:50 TheYango wrote:
I pretty much never run by-the-book Paladins because the class as a whole is a pain in the ass to deal with on multiple levels.


I've yet to play with a Paladin who wasn't an asshole. Even in the games where there's no Paladin "class," the guy who decided to be the "honorable, lawful good paragon" sucks.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
August 25 2014 14:52 GMT
#56673
On August 25 2014 23:51 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 23:46 Cixah wrote:
STOP THE PRESSES NEW SMASH LEAK:

Bowser Jr, Shulk Confirmed for Smash4.

The leak that everyone has been posting is real.

SO THAT MEANS.

No more Wolf or Lucas.
Ice Climbers are likely out or DLC.
DUCK HUNT DOG PSUDO CONFIRMED?!
Ganondorf is in, but is still a clone.


link plox


http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2eizub/i_heard_you_like_leaks/
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 25 2014 14:54 GMT
#56674
On August 25 2014 23:52 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 23:51 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 25 2014 23:46 Cixah wrote:
STOP THE PRESSES NEW SMASH LEAK:

Bowser Jr, Shulk Confirmed for Smash4.

The leak that everyone has been posting is real.

SO THAT MEANS.

No more Wolf or Lucas.
Ice Climbers are likely out or DLC.
DUCK HUNT DOG PSUDO CONFIRMED?!
Ganondorf is in, but is still a clone.


link plox


http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2eizub/i_heard_you_like_leaks/


Googled Shulk and now I know what it is, but you'll never convince me that it's not "She Hulk."
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
August 25 2014 14:55 GMT
#56675
I like Paladins.. what are you doing exactly to draw the ire of the lawful good guy?
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 25 2014 14:56 GMT
#56676
On August 25 2014 23:55 Parnage wrote:
I like Paladins.. what are you doing exactly to draw the ire of the lawful good guy?


I find their inflexibility frustrating. It makes me want to stab them.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
August 25 2014 15:02 GMT
#56677
And we have the Standard Meta change with 3 set blocks being axed and 2 set blocks being a thing. New Standard actually might be ok. Are we still getting core sets though?
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 25 2014 15:09 GMT
#56678
M15 will be in the new block rotation
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 15:17:22
August 25 2014 15:11 GMT
#56679
On August 25 2014 23:56 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 23:55 Parnage wrote:
I like Paladins.. what are you doing exactly to draw the ire of the lawful good guy?


I find their inflexibility frustrating. It makes me want to stab them.

It's not exclusive to just lawful good Paladins, but also the variants of the other 3 extreme alignments as well.

Fundamentally, the idea of a character who's bound to a particular ideology so tightly that they lose all their power for even straying slightly from it creates a weird standoff between player and DM where the player plays their character as close to the book as possible for fear of the consequences of doing otherwise, and the DM therefore has trouble trying to motivate the party through objectives that aren't in line with that character's extreme alignment due to the player not wanting to be take that risk.

There are a lot of complex plotlines that you end up being unable to use because the Paladin's answer has to be "I can't because my god says no". For example, is the Paladin unable to cross the River Styx in your adventures into Hades because paying Charon the coin to cross is paying an evil demon for his services?
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 15:13:55
August 25 2014 15:13 GMT
#56680
On August 26 2014 00:11 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 23:56 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On August 25 2014 23:55 Parnage wrote:
I like Paladins.. what are you doing exactly to draw the ire of the lawful good guy?


I find their inflexibility frustrating. It makes me want to stab them.

It's not exclusive to just lawful good Paladins, but also the variants of the other 3 extreme alignments as well.

Fundamentally, the idea of a character who's bound to a particular ideology so tightly that they lose all their power for even straying slightly from it creates a weird standoff between player and DM where the player plays their character as close to the book as possible for fear of the consequences of doing otherwise, and the DM therefore has trouble trying to motivate the party through objectives that aren't in line with that character's extreme alignment due to the player not wanting to be take that risk.


At least with players who decide to act CE I just have the town guard murder them where they stand.

Edit: Or murder them myself, if I'm PC'ing.
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