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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On August 25 2014 21:31 Alaric wrote: I don't get it. You attack with single creatures, when the enemy blocks it that card automatically joins, takes no damage because indestructible your turn, the blocker dies, you get a counter, you attack with the next creature, etc. to massively buff him, then you swing at face with Fly or something? Unless mana is ridiculous and were reprinting reflecting pool again (PLEASE REPRINT REFLECTING POOL), I don't even think that card will see play. It's a 5 mana ball lightning with a slight better upside in that it might live for a turn or two. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On August 25 2014 21:31 Alaric wrote: I don't get it. You attack with single creatures, when the enemy blocks it that card automatically joins, takes no damage because indestructible your turn, the blocker dies, you get a counter, you attack with the next creature, etc. to massively buff him, then you swing at face with Fly or something? Being indestructible doesn't mean not taking damage, it just means it can't be destroyed. Attacks don't work like you think it works in Magic it seems. This isn't Hearthstone. It can be killed through state-based-actions though, like it having 0 toughness (Bile Blight as I said). This card is not that great. Mana will surely support it with the next cycle of lands but I still don't see it being a big player in Standard (Stormbreath Dragon can also block it ad vitam eternam). | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On August 25 2014 21:26 mr_tolkien wrote: There aren't that many team GP's though :o And I think I'd already have a team with my GF + my best friend (who both happen to be pretty fucking awesome at Magic). EDIT : Ghalo : not really, Bile Blight/Drown in Sorrow/Chained to the rocks are played quite a lot in Standard. I don't really expect him to make any splash. Bile Blight stops it with <1 counter on it. Drown in Sorrow needs it to not get bigger, meaning you need to either prevent the damage or take it to the face because it's a sorcery. Chained to the rocks also gives it 1 turn of playtime where it either gets in for 7 or trades for something. I was speaking more from a limited standpoint though. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On August 25 2014 21:40 mr_tolkien wrote: Wow. A Mythic being good in limited. What a surprise :o Right, because there hasn't been shit mythics before. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On August 25 2014 21:40 mr_tolkien wrote: Wow. A Mythic being good in limited. What a surprise :o http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=179437 | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On August 25 2014 21:36 mr_tolkien wrote: Being indestructible doesn't mean not taking damage, it just means it can't be destroyed. Attacks don't work like you think it works in Magic it seems. This isn't Hearthstone. It can be killed through state-based-actions though, like it having 0 toughness (Bile Blight as I said). This card is not that great. Mana will surely support it with the next cycle of lands but I still don't see it being a big player in Standard (Stormbreath Dragon can also block it ad vitam eternam). It's the "participates in every combat" that perplexes me. If you engage a creature, it gets blocked, you let it die, is the whole phase resolved, or you can engage another creature without having it join that combat to create another one? Aren't MtG creatures brought back to "full" after every combat phase anyway, contrary to Hearthstone, so it doesn't matter if it takes damage if it's indestructible ('cept for damage-triggered effects)? | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On August 25 2014 21:47 Alaric wrote: It's the "participates in every combat" that perplexes me. If you engage a creature, it gets blocked, you let it die, is the whole phase resolved, or you can engage another creature without having it join that combat to create another one? Aren't MtG creatures brought back to "full" after every combat phase anyway, contrary to Hearthstone, so it doesn't matter if it takes damage if it's indestructible ('cept for damage-triggered effects)? Damage isn't taken off of creatures until the clean up phase, just before the end phase of each turn. Clean up is when you Discard down to 7, resolve EOT effects, remove damage. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On August 25 2014 21:44 Cixah wrote: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=179437 LOL 10/10 Would lose a booster draft and get stuck with that card again. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On August 25 2014 21:42 Gahlo wrote: Right, because there hasn't been shit mythics before. There are shit mythics for flavor/jankiness reason, but most Mythic creatures with a castable cost are incredibly bombs yeah. See Polukranos/Stormbreath/Brimaz/Flamespeaker. Tons of cards are incredibly in limited (see triplicate, cone of flames) but will never make it to constructed. When it's a mythic, yeah I dare hope it's a bomb in limited but it won't affect many matches in the end. Edit : On August 25 2014 21:47 Alaric wrote: It's the "participates in every combat" that perplexes me. If you engage a creature, it gets blocked, you let it die, is the whole phase resolved, or you can engage another creature without having it join that combat to create another one? Aren't MtG creatures brought back to "full" after every combat phase anyway, contrary to Hearthstone, so it doesn't matter if it takes damage if it's indestructible ('cept for damage-triggered effects)? In Magic, there are 5 phases : Beginning Phase First Main Phase Combat Phase Second Main Phase End Phase The combat phase has a few steps : Beginning of combat Declare Attackers Declare blockers Damage Post-damage (which is useless and'll be removed one day) At the start of the declare attackers step, the active players declares all his attackers for the turn. That's it. You can't declare an attacker at any other point during the turn. At the start of the declare blockers step, same, the attacked player (or players in multiplayer) declare their blocks. Then after damage you check deaths and such, and that's where Urgo would get counters. At the end of the turn, damage is removed from non-dead creatures. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On August 25 2014 21:26 Gahlo wrote: + Show Spoiler [This card] + ![[image loading]](http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/avatars/61/417/635425027374325194.png) I can't think of any application of this in Modern beyond being a coaster for my drink or a bulk rare to trade away. Also it was spoiled a bit earlier in the new Cunning vs Speed event deck thing haha. On August 25 2014 21:40 mr_tolkien wrote: Wow. A Mythic being good in limited. What a surprise :o I once saw someone P1P1 Jace, Memory Adept along with picking up multiple copies of Tome Scour. It was pretty sick. | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On August 25 2014 22:08 las91 wrote: Really wish I had people to get into Magic with, I really like card games and always have and now I have a tiny bit of disposable income. Got a fat pack last night for funzies + to support the local card store since it seems they've changed owners recently. Just go to a few sealed/drafts or simple the Khanh's pre-release in 3 weeks and you'll find plenty of people to play with ! | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On August 25 2014 22:08 las91 wrote: Really wish I had people to get into Magic with, I really like card games and always have and now I have a tiny bit of disposable income. Got a fat pack last night for funzies + to support the local card store since it seems they've changed owners recently. I'm filling my CCG fix with Hearthstone. It's enjoyable enough and I don't have to venture out into the scary outdoors. All of my friends who play magic are ~1 away | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
On August 25 2014 22:14 jcarlsoniv wrote: I'm filling my CCG fix with Hearthstone. It's enjoyable enough and I don't have to venture out into the scary outdoors. All of my friends who play magic are ~1 away Yea I played more hearthstone at the start of the year, got pretty boring for me ~.~ | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Something like that? Yeah but HS has cancer hunters. Does MtG have that?  | ||
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