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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-13 16:16:25
November 13 2020 16:15 GMT
#421
TvP on Zergannatha, wonder how that works out

lol and then Stats goes for the full bullshit
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 13 2020 16:15 GMT
#422
On November 14 2020 01:02 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2020 00:55 Xain0n wrote:
On November 14 2020 00:49 sneakyfox wrote:
Does anyone really believe that offline Katowice will look like this tournament?


I don't think so. However, it won't look like an usual Katowice either, it will be much closer to what we were used to see at BlizzCon; also, Reynor and Clem are for real.


Reynor was already for real last year, even if zerg was OP. The big difference is Clem. Other than him, seems like same players have improved but tbh not Ro8 level.


BlizzCon 2019 was the first international tournament where Reynor had good results, he's on another level now.
I agree that Clem makes a huge difference, I'm really interested to see if Neeb's return is a fluke because he could be another ro8 player.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
November 13 2020 16:19 GMT
#423
statsuu
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-13 16:19:57
November 13 2020 16:19 GMT
#424
Honestly TY deserves this for trying to no-scout reaperless expand in TvP
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
November 13 2020 16:19 GMT
#425
lulz

TvT final match I guess
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 13 2020 16:19 GMT
#426
Wait, i looked away, what page did Stats bring out for that 3rd game?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
NotSoHappy
Profile Joined November 2010
445 Posts
November 13 2020 16:20 GMT
#427
its funny how reynor can take down serral, but when clem brings 4 different builds he just fell apart
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13002 Posts
November 13 2020 16:20 GMT
#428
Anticlimatic
That patch to fix pvz by blizzard makes some horrendous pvt :x.
This will be way harder for HeroMarine to qualify now
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
November 13 2020 16:20 GMT
#429
On November 14 2020 01:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait, i looked away, what page did Stats bring out for that 3rd game?

Proxy void vs TY not going past his natural with any unit
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
November 13 2020 16:21 GMT
#430
On November 14 2020 01:20 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2020 01:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait, i looked away, what page did Stats bring out for that 3rd game?

Proxy void vs TY not going past his natural with any unit


He had a single hellion in Stats's main
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
November 13 2020 16:21 GMT
#431
On November 14 2020 01:20 Poopi wrote:
Anticlimatic
That patch to fix pvz by blizzard makes some horrendous pvt :x.
This will be way harder for HeroMarine to qualify now


PvT is more than fine man. Proxying on ZERGANNATHA was a genius move by Stats!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 13 2020 16:21 GMT
#432
On November 14 2020 00:49 sneakyfox wrote:
Does anyone really believe that offline Katowice will look like this tournament?


There's structural reasons for why it wouldn't that have nothing to do with the differences between offline/online play.

For one this tournament is the low water mark this year for Korean online performance (potentially. If we end up with two Korean finalists people won't remember it that way). The high water mark would be something like King of Battles so even if online and offline were the same we wouldn't expect a repeat of this at Katowice.

Additionally a 36 player event with 17 Koreans is more favorable to KR than this 6/16 affair, especially since Korea still has more players able to defeat championship contenders.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
November 13 2020 16:21 GMT
#433
It's due to my sig
I Protoss winner, could it be?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27206 Posts
November 13 2020 16:22 GMT
#434
On November 14 2020 01:02 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2020 00:55 Xain0n wrote:
On November 14 2020 00:49 sneakyfox wrote:
Does anyone really believe that offline Katowice will look like this tournament?


I don't think so. However, it won't look like an usual Katowice either, it will be much closer to what we were used to see at BlizzCon; also, Reynor and Clem are for real.


Reynor was already for real last year, even if zerg was OP. The big difference is Clem. Other than him, seems like same players have improved but tbh not Ro8 level.

Reynor last year could beat anyone really on his day, wouldn’t have him as an overwhelming favourite in many of his series that year though.

Feels like 2020 Reynor is getting similar to 2018 Serral, and 2020 Clem’s efforts are quite like 2019 Reynor
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-13 16:26:19
November 13 2020 16:23 GMT
#435
On November 14 2020 01:21 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2020 01:20 Elentos wrote:
On November 14 2020 01:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait, i looked away, what page did Stats bring out for that 3rd game?

Proxy void vs TY not going past his natural with any unit


He had a single hellion in Stats's main

And it didn't see anything there. That hellion's entire life was failure.

There's honestly no excuse to ever lose to proxy voids by not scouting. Especially since Stats literally placed all his buildings like he didn't care if TY found them.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 13 2020 16:28 GMT
#436
On November 14 2020 01:20 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2020 01:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait, i looked away, what page did Stats bring out for that 3rd game?

Proxy void vs TY not going past his natural with any unit

Uh, yeah, TY kinda deserved that one.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
November 13 2020 16:30 GMT
#437
On November 14 2020 01:23 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2020 01:21 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 14 2020 01:20 Elentos wrote:
On November 14 2020 01:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait, i looked away, what page did Stats bring out for that 3rd game?

Proxy void vs TY not going past his natural with any unit


He had a single hellion in Stats's main

And it didn't see anything there. That hellion's entire life was failure.

There's honestly no excuse to ever lose to proxy voids by not scouting. Especially since Stats literally placed all his buildings like he didn't care if TY found them.


Oh god, that poor hellion
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
November 13 2020 16:35 GMT
#438
On November 14 2020 01:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2020 00:49 sneakyfox wrote:
Does anyone really believe that offline Katowice will look like this tournament?


There's structural reasons for why it wouldn't that have nothing to do with the differences between offline/online play.

For one this tournament is the low water mark this year for Korean online performance (potentially. If we end up with two Korean finalists people won't remember it that way). The high water mark would be something like King of Battles so even if online and offline were the same we wouldn't expect a repeat of this at Katowice.

Additionally a 36 player event with 17 Koreans is more favorable to KR than this 6/16 affair, especially since Korea still has more players able to defeat championship contenders.


Sure, it's not a 1:1 comparison, and I agree with the points you make. I was mostly commenting on the "fall of Korea" line that the casters and some people are running.

Actually, not really sure why you responded like that to my post.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
November 13 2020 16:37 GMT
#439
Let's see if Nice can make something happen against Gabe
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
November 13 2020 16:44 GMT
#440
mule him Gabe
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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