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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 05:03:17
October 07 2020 17:12 GMT
#1
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Gold Series Team Championship 2020 Fall

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Allstars: 10:00 GMT (+00:00), October 8 and 9
Playoffs: 10:00 GMT (+00:00), October 10 and 11

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Allstars

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  • 8 player Single elimination playoffs.
  • 3 players from top 3 of GPC 2020 Tier 2 and 5 players from 5 playoffs teams.


Playoffs

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  • All-Kill Format.
  • Individual format is Bo2. If the result is 1-1, both players will be eliminated.
  • One Revival per team for each match.
  • Bo1 Ace match.


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(Wiki)Gold Series Team Championship/2020/Fall/Playoffs

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whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
October 07 2020 20:41 GMT
#2
Am I blind or there's no date/time for this yet?
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
October 08 2020 07:07 GMT
#3
On October 08 2020 05:41 whiterabbit wrote:
Am I blind or there's no date/time for this yet?


Allstars: 12:00 CEST (+02:00), October 8 and 9
Playoffs: 12:00 CEST (+02:00), October 10 and 11


Also how is SOS the Allstar Player for JAGW??
MaxPax
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 08 2020 07:34 GMT
#4
On October 08 2020 16:07 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2020 05:41 whiterabbit wrote:
Am I blind or there's no date/time for this yet?

Show nested quote +

Allstars: 12:00 CEST (+02:00), October 8 and 9
Playoffs: 12:00 CEST (+02:00), October 10 and 11


Also how is SOS the Allstar Player for JAGW??

Pretty sure the teams can send whichever player they want, and since Maru, Trap and Rogue get more shots at tournaments these days, why not give sOs a chance at winning something.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 14:41:26
October 08 2020 10:14 GMT
#5
On October 08 2020 16:34 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2020 16:07 dbRic1203 wrote:
On October 08 2020 05:41 whiterabbit wrote:
Am I blind or there's no date/time for this yet?


Allstars: 12:00 CEST (+02:00), October 8 and 9
Playoffs: 12:00 CEST (+02:00), October 10 and 11


Also how is SOS the Allstar Player for JAGW??

Pretty sure the teams can send whichever player they want, and since Maru, Trap and Rogue get more shots at tournaments these days, why not give sOs a chance at winning something.

I asumed it was usually the best player from each playoff team from the regular season. And sOs wasn realy contibuting much to JAGWs regular season.
E.:
MaxPax
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
October 08 2020 10:29 GMT
#6
MacSed 1-0 Solar
I love SC2
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
October 08 2020 11:22 GMT
#7
Solar: "I know this is the only thing MacSed does so after scouting I know what to do with him."
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
October 08 2020 13:50 GMT
#8
Jieshi 2-1 sOs
I love SC2
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
October 08 2020 14:17 GMT
#9
Jieshi won sOs
I love SC2
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 09 2020 11:51 GMT
#10
Man lurkers just headbutting into the army and then speed burrowing just seems so wrong yet somehow that's the right way to use them
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
October 09 2020 15:11 GMT
#11
Dream eventually winning something, that's great!
TheCheapSkate
Profile Joined August 2011
Slovenia316 Posts
October 09 2020 16:10 GMT
#12
Congrats to Dream!
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
October 10 2020 11:53 GMT
#13
If the score were 4-4, Dream couldn't be the player of BSG in the final ace match.
I love SC2
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 10 2020 12:54 GMT
#14
If Rogue plays this it's a pretty damn busy day for him (is it even possible).

For Trap and Maru as well.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
October 10 2020 13:02 GMT
#15
Rex casually took out AX's Ace.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 10 2020 13:04 GMT
#16
Wardi with the insane Paint production value
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
October 10 2020 13:19 GMT
#17
I got zoom meetings even in sc2 lol. Glad that at least jin air zoom meetings are better than those of my advisor.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 10 2020 13:31 GMT
#18
Oh Creator...
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 13:44:56
October 10 2020 13:44 GMT
#19
sOs room looks like a dumpster lol
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 10 2020 13:46 GMT
#20
Well AlphaX forced out the Hail Mary
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
October 10 2020 13:50 GMT
#21
On October 10 2020 22:46 Elentos wrote:
Well AlphaX forced out the Hail Mary



gotta love when wardiii gets pumped
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 10 2020 14:14 GMT
#22
Good job Zoun, splitting maps with Maru is nice
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lepricon1992
Profile Joined July 2019
96 Posts
October 10 2020 14:41 GMT
#23
dunno why JAGW sent creator on 2nd match
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-10 15:11:47
October 10 2020 15:11 GMT
#24
Rag-Trap super ace?
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 10 2020 15:21 GMT
#25
woooo what a result for Alpha X. Super impressive - also... playing Creator, what did you expect Jin Air? :D
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
October 10 2020 15:21 GMT
#26
AlphaX keeps on impressing.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 10 2020 15:39 GMT
#27
On October 11 2020 00:21 digmouse wrote:
AlphaX keeps on impressing.


Very impressed by them organising a whole tournament just to distract the JAGW players on the day of the big playoff match
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2704 Posts
October 10 2020 18:29 GMT
#28
On October 11 2020 00:39 sneakyfox wrote:
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On October 11 2020 00:21 digmouse wrote:
AlphaX keeps on impressing.


Very impressed by them organising a whole tournament just to distract the JAGW players on the day of the big playoff match

LOL
very illegal and very uncool
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
October 11 2020 00:53 GMT
#29
Going slightly off topic, has Dynamite retired?
He did relatively well in the league earlier this year but he never found another team after DLG's dissolution and his last game is four months old.
thickertom
Profile Joined December 2014
China612 Posts
October 11 2020 03:18 GMT
#30
On October 11 2020 09:53 Xain0n wrote:
Going slightly off topic, has Dynamite retired?
He did relatively well in the league earlier this year but he never found another team after DLG's dissolution and his last game is four months old.


Perhaps he is retired. When DLG was dissolved, it was said that only one player joined a new team. Later, the only one is SortOf. EF might play Valorant though he still participated in some SC2 tournaments and Dynamite became inactive.
I love SC2
AlphaXSushi
Profile Joined September 2017
838 Posts
October 11 2020 06:50 GMT
#31
On October 11 2020 09:53 Xain0n wrote:
Going slightly off topic, has Dynamite retired?
He did relatively well in the league earlier this year but he never found another team after DLG's dissolution and his last game is four months old.


He has retired unfortunately....
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 10:43:26
October 11 2020 10:39 GMT
#32
Good start for DPG. I think there was some potential for Firefly to 2-0 given how the game started but that can't be expected. Gonna be rough for AlphaX now.

Can Ragnarok slay the EU slayer?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3375 Posts
October 11 2020 11:04 GMT
#33
On October 11 2020 19:39 Elentos wrote:
Good start for DPG. I think there was some potential for Firefly to 2-0 given how the game started but that can't be expected. Gonna be rough for AlphaX now.

Can Ragnarok slay the EU slayer?

The first game says no.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3375 Posts
October 11 2020 11:29 GMT
#34
Well second game says yes, but jagannatha also looks like a perfect zerg map
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 11:53 GMT
#35
That hatch placement was pretty good.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3375 Posts
October 11 2020 11:57 GMT
#36
I think Nice held, which is kinda bad for dark.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
October 11 2020 11:59 GMT
#37
I think Nice throws after this. wish I am wrong tho.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3375 Posts
October 11 2020 11:59 GMT
#38
nah Dark all ins into immortal prism with cannon ans shiled battery, this will never work.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
October 11 2020 12:05 GMT
#39
wooooow Nice!!!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 12:08 GMT
#40
Dark map split vs Nice twice this season.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 12:12 GMT
#41
Oh I expected Rag from AlphaX
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 11 2020 12:16 GMT
#42
Wow Alpha X really punches above their weight.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 12:27 GMT
#43
A win's a win but Dark ain't impressing me much
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3375 Posts
October 11 2020 12:32 GMT
#44
On October 11 2020 21:27 Elentos wrote:
A win's a win but Dark ain't impressing me much

Since super tournament Dark just ain't in good form.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 11 2020 12:33 GMT
#45
Hey wait isn't this the 2-pylon spot reddit was bitching about.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 12:33 GMT
#46
Wow what a cannon rush spot
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 12:39 GMT
#47
He's lost 2 immortals now, he could have made one less and a prism instead to lose 0 immortals.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
October 11 2020 12:44 GMT
#48
Holy ace matches
Year of MaxPax
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 13:06:20
October 11 2020 13:05 GMT
#49
If Ragna didnt screw up his mineral/gas management he would have won. Now he is slowly losing.

Well, that escalated quickly. What a bad engage from Cure :D
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 13:06:48
October 11 2020 13:06 GMT
#50
Ragnarok > Serral confirmed.

Congratulations to Alpha X also, they're really racking up the upsets.
Denominator of the Universe
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 13:06 GMT
#51
What's sad is that AlphaX is just gonna get stomped now because they don't have access to KaiZi's one weakness: a mid tier Korean Terran.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
lepricon1992
Profile Joined July 2019
96 Posts
October 11 2020 13:07 GMT
#52
RNK = ACE match god
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
October 11 2020 13:07 GMT
#53
No wonder they called him RagnaGOAT.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
October 11 2020 13:09 GMT
#54
DPG & JinAir, two former GTC champions have been defeated.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
October 11 2020 13:09 GMT
#55
RAGNAGOD!!!
Go go AlphaX, you can do it!
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 11 2020 13:11 GMT
#56
now this is teamleague-ing!
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
October 11 2020 13:12 GMT
#57
What a freaking run by AlphaX!
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
TsingLoong
Profile Joined July 2019
1 Post
October 11 2020 13:13 GMT
#58
This is just what I love to see in team league.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 11 2020 13:25 GMT
#59
Btw. Ragnarok > Reynor > Serral confirmed
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
October 11 2020 13:43 GMT
#60
The Rag does it again!
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 11 2020 13:55 GMT
#61
Unbelievable weekend for AlphaX.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
October 11 2020 14:00 GMT
#62
AlphaX is on steroids! what a run!
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 14:22 GMT
#63
Pretty insane comeback from TIME
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 14:50:50
October 11 2020 14:50 GMT
#64
On October 11 2020 23:22 Elentos wrote:
Pretty insane comeback from TIME


Wait Time won that game against Nice? How? He looked totally dead.

I had to step out and just assumed he lost when I came back to Solar vs Ragnarok.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 11 2020 15:01 GMT
#65
Hmm looks like the jig is finally up.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 15:03 GMT
#66
On October 11 2020 23:50 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2020 23:22 Elentos wrote:
Pretty insane comeback from TIME


Wait Time won that game against Nice? How? He looked totally dead.

I had to step out and just assumed he lost when I came back to Solar vs Ragnarok.

Just watch it, it was worth it. Especially for Wardi losing his mind.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
October 11 2020 15:26 GMT
#67
Did Solar just forget he had vipers for 30 seconds?
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 15:29 GMT
#68
Now that it's all tied up, can Inno finally be the carry Kaizi have always wanted him to be?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 11 2020 15:33 GMT
#69
On October 12 2020 00:29 Elentos wrote:
Now that it's all tied up, can Inno finally be the carry Kaizi have always wanted him to be?


He bombed out of KoB last night just so he could show up here and be the Lü Bu that China deserves.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 11 2020 16:00 GMT
#70
Zoun CHOKE
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 16:06:08
October 11 2020 16:02 GMT
#71
Wow, I guessed AlphaX could take the series just like they did 5-4 on both DPG and JinAir previously.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 11 2020 16:03 GMT
#72
What a day this has been so far!
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
sc2edeN
Profile Joined November 2019
Japan18 Posts
October 11 2020 16:03 GMT
#73
A perfect final of these season
Everything you see is delayed.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
October 11 2020 16:14 GMT
#74
We are either getting a miracle sweep, or a freaking ACE match in the finals.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
October 11 2020 16:14 GMT
#75
RagnaGOAT came back to haunt Solar.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 16:16 GMT
#76
Getting hard to decide who pulled more weight between Zoun and Rag
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 16:26:11
October 11 2020 16:17 GMT
#77
On October 12 2020 01:16 Elentos wrote:
Getting hard to decide who pulled more weight between Zoun and Rag

Every Alpha X player gets to be playoff MVP at this point.

Inno Zouuuuun super ace match
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
lepricon1992
Profile Joined July 2019
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 16:57:28
October 11 2020 16:31 GMT
#78
Inno seems a little bit nervous playing against Zoun, and TIME steps up.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 11 2020 16:33 GMT
#79
oh damn, TIME stepping up for ace?
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 16:36:52
October 11 2020 16:33 GMT
#80
Disappointed in Inno, he seemed totally out of it in the video chat. Maybe he was serious when he said he doesn't know how to win against Protoss.

Time really stepping up here. I hope he wins, kid's got heart.
Denominator of the Universe
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sc2edeN
Profile Joined November 2019
Japan18 Posts
October 11 2020 16:36 GMT
#81
FINAL
Zoun VS TIME
Romacticide LE
Everything you see is delayed.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 16:37:41
October 11 2020 16:37 GMT
#82
Hopefully, TIME can take the series for the anti-climatic ending ever for GTC.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
October 11 2020 16:37 GMT
#83
On October 12 2020 01:37 swarminfestor wrote:
Hopefully, TIME took the series for the anti-climatic ending.

That wouldn't be anticlimactic at all. An Ace match in the finals is climactic in itself.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 16:41:17
October 11 2020 16:41 GMT
#84
On October 12 2020 01:37 swarminfestor wrote:
Hopefully, TIME can take the series for the anti-climatic ending ever for GTC.


If you told me two days ago that the finals ace match of GTC was gonna be Time vs Zoun I would've pointed at the dozen champions that were far more likely to be there.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 16:45 GMT
#85
On October 12 2020 01:37 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2020 01:37 swarminfestor wrote:
Hopefully, TIME took the series for the anti-climatic ending.

That wouldn't be anticlimactic at all. An Ace match in the finals is climactic in itself.

And a Chinese player deciding the league in his favor would be insane as well.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 11 2020 16:52 GMT
#86
On October 12 2020 01:45 Elentos wrote:
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On October 12 2020 01:37 digmouse wrote:
On October 12 2020 01:37 swarminfestor wrote:
Hopefully, TIME took the series for the anti-climatic ending.

That wouldn't be anticlimactic at all. An Ace match in the finals is climactic in itself.

And a Chinese player deciding the league in his favor would be insane as well.

Seriously, both storylines are AMAZING.
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
October 11 2020 16:54 GMT
#87
Zoun winning would've been so much cooler, but well played TIME.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 16:56:32
October 11 2020 16:54 GMT
#88
Time did it. What a madlad. I gotta say, lots of respect for stepping up and delivering when it counts.

Props to Zoun and Alpha X too, they had an incredible run.
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
October 11 2020 16:55 GMT
#89
On October 12 2020 01:54 sudete wrote:
Zoun winning would've been so much cooler, but well played TIME.

I believe most Chinese viewers would say otherwise lol
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
October 11 2020 16:56 GMT
#90
What a series. Never thought TIME can still survive. The first Chinese player to win the ace match in final matches of GTC series overall.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 16:58:53
October 11 2020 16:57 GMT
#91
On October 12 2020 01:56 swarminfestor wrote:
What a series. Never thought TIME can still survive. The first Chinese player to win the ace match in final matches of GTC series overall.


Literally all downhill from here. Chinese casters were very very hype. Can hardly blame them though.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 16:57 GMT
#92
TIME was dead against Nice. He turned that game around. Only because of that was Kaizi even able to reach this ace. And TIME wins it all. He did an amazing job. They brought in Inno to carry, they brought in Solar to carry, but in the end it's TIME who makes the difference.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 11 2020 16:57 GMT
#93
10/10
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 16:58:22
October 11 2020 16:58 GMT
#94
On October 12 2020 01:57 Elentos wrote:
TIME was dead against Nice. He turned that game around. Only because of that was Kaizi even able to reach this ace. And TIME wins it all. He did an amazing job. They brought in Inno to carry, they brought in Solar to carry, but in the end it's TIME who makes the difference.


Wasn't Time himself a later addition? They had Nice (ironic) at the start I think.
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heaveshade
Profile Joined March 2011
China330 Posts
October 11 2020 16:59 GMT
#95
What a final, just can't script it better.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
October 11 2020 16:59 GMT
#96
On October 12 2020 01:58 pvsnp wrote:
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On October 12 2020 01:57 Elentos wrote:
TIME was dead against Nice. He turned that game around. Only because of that was Kaizi even able to reach this ace. And TIME wins it all. He did an amazing job. They brought in Inno to carry, they brought in Solar to carry, but in the end it's TIME who makes the difference.


Wasn't Time himself a later addition? They had Nice (ironic) at the start I think.

TIME joined after Newbee disbanded indeed. But I think nobody would have expected him to be that important for Kaizi finally winning the league.
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 11 2020 16:59 GMT
#97
sick sick sick sick how can I even do this justice?! what a season! GGs to all teams, thanks SCBoy and Wardi and congratz to KaiZi and TIME. this tournament is SO GOOD.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 11 2020 17:00 GMT
#98
On October 12 2020 01:59 TheOneAboveU wrote:
sick sick sick sick how can I even do this justice?! what a season! GGs to all teams, thanks SCBoy and Wardi and congratz to KaiZi and TIME. this tournament is SO GOOD.


The number of ace matches in honestly crazy. Credit to the tournament organizers I guess, the Bo2 format really encourages it.
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xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 17:09:21
October 11 2020 17:05 GMT
#99
Disappointed in Innovation. Kaizi paid the big money to Innovation to be their Ace player, along with Solar. At the end of the AlphaX PartinG showmatch against Innovation, PartinG acknowledged that Protoss has an advantage against Terran in this patch so I understand if Innovation also feels this way about Protoss (Innovation mentioned in the last GSL interview that he struggles against Protoss). But Innovation not coming out against Zoun in the final match was disappointing for what is supposed be the ace player on Kaizi.

Good for Time to step up in Innovation's shoes though. A well deserved victory by Time.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 17:08:31
October 11 2020 17:08 GMT
#100
On October 12 2020 02:05 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Disappointed in Innovation. Kaizi paid the big money to Innovation to be their Ace player, along with Solar. At the end of the AlphaX PartinG showmatch against Innovation, PartinG acknowledged that Protoss has an advantage against Terran in this patch so I understand if Innovation also feels this way about Protoss (Innovation mentioned in the last GSL interview that he struggles against Protoss). But Innovation not coming out against Zoun in the final match was disappointing for what is supposed be the ace player on Kaizi.

Good for Time to step up in Innovation's shoes though. A well deserved victory by Time.


Well it worked, so I imagine it's all smiles now on Kaizi.

But definitely one of those situations where some hard questions and hard looks would be justified if they lost.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6327 Posts
October 11 2020 17:08 GMT
#101
Next season is 2021.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 11 2020 17:09 GMT
#102
Poll: Who's your Playoffs MVP?

Zoun (116)
 
59%

TIME (61)
 
31%

RagnaroK (19)
 
10%

196 total votes

Your vote: Who's your Playoffs MVP?

(Vote): TIME
(Vote): RagnaroK
(Vote): Zoun



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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 11 2020 17:09 GMT
#103
On October 12 2020 02:08 digmouse wrote:
Next season is 2021.


Not exactly a surprise, seeing as it's October.
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 17:16:49
October 11 2020 17:16 GMT
#104
On October 12 2020 02:05 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Disappointed in Innovation. Kaizi paid the big money to Innovation to be their Ace player, along with Solar. At the end of the AlphaX PartinG showmatch against Innovation, PartinG acknowledged that Protoss has an advantage against Terran in this patch so I understand if Innovation also feels this way about Protoss (Innovation mentioned in the last GSL interview that he struggles against Protoss). But Innovation not coming out against Zoun in the final match was disappointing for what is supposed be the ace player on Kaizi.

Good for Time to step up in Innovation's shoes though. A well deserved victory by Time.


Inno was confidence in TvZ right now but not so in TvP. Perhaps, it gave clear signal to the Kaizi Boss to not forcing him from playing in ace match. Trusting in Inno's decision and TIME's willingness to play was some hard decision made by Kaizi Boss even it meant a gamble.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 17:19:53
October 11 2020 17:19 GMT
#105
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LittlePox
Profile Joined August 2016
23 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 17:31:47
October 11 2020 17:21 GMT
#106
On October 12 2020 02:05 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Disappointed in Innovation. Kaizi paid the big money to Innovation to be their Ace player, along with Solar. At the end of the AlphaX PartinG showmatch against Innovation, PartinG acknowledged that Protoss has an advantage against Terran in this patch so I understand if Innovation also feels this way about Protoss (Innovation mentioned in the last GSL interview that he struggles against Protoss). But Innovation not coming out against Zoun in the final match was disappointing for what is supposed be the ace player on Kaizi.

Good for Time to step up in Innovation's shoes though. A well deserved victory by Time.


Actually INnoVation is known to be poor in TvP. Even when TvP wasn't so hard he's always strugling with top-tier protoss. Time, on the contrary, is confident in TvP and he recently won a few matches against Zoun.
If the ace for AX was Rag, Inno probably did the shot.

If you had listen to their dialog, the team manager also wanted Time to take the show, probably because the Chinese manager wished to utilize this chance to train the Chinese player.

After Newbee disbanded, KZ gaming was setup by a relative of SCBoy as the new team for Time, the Chinese SC2 community figure. The major purpose of this team is to give Time a professional atmosphere to grow up.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2704 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 17:42:12
October 11 2020 17:23 GMT
#107
Here's my MVP analysis. First, it's def gonna be someone on AlphaX, super clutch the whole way.

I'll assign +1 to each victory against a Korean and -1 to each loss against a non-Korean unless you're a non-Korean yourself. Tiebreaker will be who won the most ace-match.

AlphaX vs BraveStar:
Nice 1-1 Cyan no change
Zoun 1-1 Dream +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 2-0 Scarlett no change
Ragnarok 1-1 Dream +1 Rag

Score: Nice 0, Zoun 1, Rag 1

AlphaX vs JinAir
Ragnarok 1-1 Rex -1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Creator +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Maru +1 Zoun
Zoun 1-1 Trap +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Trap +1 Rag

Score: Nice 1, Zoun 3, Rag 1

AlphaX vs DPG
Zoun 1-1 Firefly -1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Cure +1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Dark +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Dark +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Cure +1 Rag

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 3

AlphaX vs Kaizi
Nice 1-1 TIME no change
Ragnarok 0-2 Solar no change
Zoun 2-0 Solar +2 Zoun
Zoun 1-1 Innovation +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Solar +1 Rag
Zoun 0-1 TIME -1 Zoun

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 5, Rag 4

So Zoun deserves the MVP, but Ragnarok did win 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1, so it's a close call.

(Edited for correction)
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 11 2020 17:36 GMT
#108
On October 12 2020 02:23 argonautdice wrote:
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Here's my MVP analysis. First, it's def gonna be someone on AlphaX, super clutch the whole way.

I'll assign +1 to each victory against a Korean and -1 to each loss against a non-Korean unless you're a non-Korean yourself. Tiebreaker will be who won the most ace-match.

AlphaX vs BraveStar:
Nice 1-1 Cyan no change
Zoun 1-1 Dream +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 2-0 Scarlett no change
Ragnarok 1-1 Dream +1 Rag

Score: Nice 0, Zoun 1, Rag 1

AlphaX vs JinAir
Ragnarok 1-1 Rex -1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Creator +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Maru +1 Zoun
Zoun 1-1 Trap +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Trap +1 Rag

Score: Nice 1, Zoun 3, Rag 1

AlphaX vs DPG
Zoun 1-1 Firefly -1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Cure +1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Dark +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Dark +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Cure +1 Rag

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 3

AlphaX vs Kaizi
Nice 1-1 TIME no change
Ragnarok 0-2 Solar no change
Zoun 1-1 Innovation +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Solar +1 Rag
Zoun 0-1 TIME -1 Zoun

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 4

So Ragnarok deserves the MVP, besides he also won 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1.

I'll, uhhh, bookmark this for later. :D

The numbers show how difficult that decision is, there was no one who really 'got carried' here, everyone contributed critical maps.
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2704 Posts
October 11 2020 17:41 GMT
#109
On October 12 2020 02:36 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2020 02:23 argonautdice wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Here's my MVP analysis. First, it's def gonna be someone on AlphaX, super clutch the whole way.

I'll assign +1 to each victory against a Korean and -1 to each loss against a non-Korean unless you're a non-Korean yourself. Tiebreaker will be who won the most ace-match.

AlphaX vs BraveStar:
Nice 1-1 Cyan no change
Zoun 1-1 Dream +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 2-0 Scarlett no change
Ragnarok 1-1 Dream +1 Rag

Score: Nice 0, Zoun 1, Rag 1

AlphaX vs JinAir
Ragnarok 1-1 Rex -1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Creator +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Maru +1 Zoun
Zoun 1-1 Trap +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Trap +1 Rag

Score: Nice 1, Zoun 3, Rag 1

AlphaX vs DPG
Zoun 1-1 Firefly -1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Cure +1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Dark +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Dark +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Cure +1 Rag

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 3

AlphaX vs Kaizi
Nice 1-1 TIME no change
Ragnarok 0-2 Solar no change
Zoun 1-1 Innovation +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Solar +1 Rag
Zoun 0-1 TIME -1 Zoun

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 4

So Ragnarok deserves the MVP, besides he also won 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1.

I'll, uhhh, bookmark this for later. :D

The numbers show how difficult that decision is, there was no one who really 'got carried' here, everyone contributed critical maps.


Lol before you do, I actually made a mistake, I forgot to include Zoun 2-0 Solar in the last match! So the final score is actually Nice 2, Zoun 5, Rag 4, so I guess Zoun wins MVP! Though Rag did win 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1 so it's close :D
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
October 11 2020 17:42 GMT
#110
On October 12 2020 02:41 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2020 02:36 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On October 12 2020 02:23 argonautdice wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Here's my MVP analysis. First, it's def gonna be someone on AlphaX, super clutch the whole way.

I'll assign +1 to each victory against a Korean and -1 to each loss against a non-Korean unless you're a non-Korean yourself. Tiebreaker will be who won the most ace-match.

AlphaX vs BraveStar:
Nice 1-1 Cyan no change
Zoun 1-1 Dream +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 2-0 Scarlett no change
Ragnarok 1-1 Dream +1 Rag

Score: Nice 0, Zoun 1, Rag 1

AlphaX vs JinAir
Ragnarok 1-1 Rex -1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Creator +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Maru +1 Zoun
Zoun 1-1 Trap +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Trap +1 Rag

Score: Nice 1, Zoun 3, Rag 1

AlphaX vs DPG
Zoun 1-1 Firefly -1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Cure +1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Dark +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Dark +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Cure +1 Rag

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 3

AlphaX vs Kaizi
Nice 1-1 TIME no change
Ragnarok 0-2 Solar no change
Zoun 1-1 Innovation +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Solar +1 Rag
Zoun 0-1 TIME -1 Zoun

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 4

So Ragnarok deserves the MVP, besides he also won 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1.

I'll, uhhh, bookmark this for later. :D

The numbers show how difficult that decision is, there was no one who really 'got carried' here, everyone contributed critical maps.


Lol before you do, I actually made a mistake, I forgot to include Zoun 2-0 Solar in the last match! So the final score is actually Nice 2, Zoun 5, Rag 4, so I guess Zoun wins MVP! Though Rag did win 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1 so it's close :D


Ace matches being what they are, I'm inclined to favor Ragnarok over Zoun. Especially since Zoun lost the one that mattered most.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
October 11 2020 17:45 GMT
#111
On October 12 2020 02:42 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2020 02:41 argonautdice wrote:
On October 12 2020 02:36 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On October 12 2020 02:23 argonautdice wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Here's my MVP analysis. First, it's def gonna be someone on AlphaX, super clutch the whole way.

I'll assign +1 to each victory against a Korean and -1 to each loss against a non-Korean unless you're a non-Korean yourself. Tiebreaker will be who won the most ace-match.

AlphaX vs BraveStar:
Nice 1-1 Cyan no change
Zoun 1-1 Dream +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 2-0 Scarlett no change
Ragnarok 1-1 Dream +1 Rag

Score: Nice 0, Zoun 1, Rag 1

AlphaX vs JinAir
Ragnarok 1-1 Rex -1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Creator +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Maru +1 Zoun
Zoun 1-1 Trap +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Trap +1 Rag

Score: Nice 1, Zoun 3, Rag 1

AlphaX vs DPG
Zoun 1-1 Firefly -1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Cure +1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Dark +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Dark +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Cure +1 Rag

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 3

AlphaX vs Kaizi
Nice 1-1 TIME no change
Ragnarok 0-2 Solar no change
Zoun 1-1 Innovation +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Solar +1 Rag
Zoun 0-1 TIME -1 Zoun

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 4

So Ragnarok deserves the MVP, besides he also won 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1.

I'll, uhhh, bookmark this for later. :D

The numbers show how difficult that decision is, there was no one who really 'got carried' here, everyone contributed critical maps.


Lol before you do, I actually made a mistake, I forgot to include Zoun 2-0 Solar in the last match! So the final score is actually Nice 2, Zoun 5, Rag 4, so I guess Zoun wins MVP! Though Rag did win 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1 so it's close :D


Ace matches being what they are, I'm inclined to favor Ragnarok over Zoun. Especially since Zoun lost the one that mattered most.


A little bit rough since in the same match Zoun carried the team taking out solar and INno
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
October 11 2020 17:45 GMT
#112
On October 12 2020 02:41 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2020 02:36 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On October 12 2020 02:23 argonautdice wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Here's my MVP analysis. First, it's def gonna be someone on AlphaX, super clutch the whole way.

I'll assign +1 to each victory against a Korean and -1 to each loss against a non-Korean unless you're a non-Korean yourself. Tiebreaker will be who won the most ace-match.

AlphaX vs BraveStar:
Nice 1-1 Cyan no change
Zoun 1-1 Dream +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 2-0 Scarlett no change
Ragnarok 1-1 Dream +1 Rag

Score: Nice 0, Zoun 1, Rag 1

AlphaX vs JinAir
Ragnarok 1-1 Rex -1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Creator +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Maru +1 Zoun
Zoun 1-1 Trap +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Trap +1 Rag

Score: Nice 1, Zoun 3, Rag 1

AlphaX vs DPG
Zoun 1-1 Firefly -1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Cure +1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Dark +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Dark +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Cure +1 Rag

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 3

AlphaX vs Kaizi
Nice 1-1 TIME no change
Ragnarok 0-2 Solar no change
Zoun 1-1 Innovation +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Solar +1 Rag
Zoun 0-1 TIME -1 Zoun

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 4

So Ragnarok deserves the MVP, besides he also won 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1.

I'll, uhhh, bookmark this for later. :D

The numbers show how difficult that decision is, there was no one who really 'got carried' here, everyone contributed critical maps.


Lol before you do, I actually made a mistake, I forgot to include Zoun 2-0 Solar in the last match! So the final score is actually Nice 2, Zoun 5, Rag 4, so I guess Zoun wins MVP! Though Rag did win 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1 so it's close :D


Noooo, so now it's closer again. :D

Still leaning towards RagnaroK as well because of the two ace wins. I'd give the entire team the award, but that feels like a lame cop-out even though everyone deserves it.
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2704 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 18:00:39
October 11 2020 17:56 GMT
#113
On October 12 2020 02:45 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2020 02:41 argonautdice wrote:
On October 12 2020 02:36 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On October 12 2020 02:23 argonautdice wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Here's my MVP analysis. First, it's def gonna be someone on AlphaX, super clutch the whole way.

I'll assign +1 to each victory against a Korean and -1 to each loss against a non-Korean unless you're a non-Korean yourself. Tiebreaker will be who won the most ace-match.

AlphaX vs BraveStar:
Nice 1-1 Cyan no change
Zoun 1-1 Dream +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 2-0 Scarlett no change
Ragnarok 1-1 Dream +1 Rag

Score: Nice 0, Zoun 1, Rag 1

AlphaX vs JinAir
Ragnarok 1-1 Rex -1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Creator +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Maru +1 Zoun
Zoun 1-1 Trap +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Trap +1 Rag

Score: Nice 1, Zoun 3, Rag 1

AlphaX vs DPG
Zoun 1-1 Firefly -1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Cure +1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Dark +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Dark +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Cure +1 Rag

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 3

AlphaX vs Kaizi
Nice 1-1 TIME no change
Ragnarok 0-2 Solar no change
Zoun 1-1 Innovation +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Solar +1 Rag
Zoun 0-1 TIME -1 Zoun

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 4

So Ragnarok deserves the MVP, besides he also won 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1.

I'll, uhhh, bookmark this for later. :D

The numbers show how difficult that decision is, there was no one who really 'got carried' here, everyone contributed critical maps.


Lol before you do, I actually made a mistake, I forgot to include Zoun 2-0 Solar in the last match! So the final score is actually Nice 2, Zoun 5, Rag 4, so I guess Zoun wins MVP! Though Rag did win 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1 so it's close :D


Noooo, so now it's closer again. :D

Still leaning towards RagnaroK as well because of the two ace wins. I'd give the entire team the award, but that feels like a lame cop-out even though everyone deserves it.


Yeah, I agree. Another reason I favor Ragnarok is that JinAir possibly didn't send out Maru for the ace match because how potent Ragnarok's ZvT is, and they sent out Trap but still lost. Their best bet was probably Rogue who unfortunately had to play (and lose) two individual tournaments the same day.

The biggest throw of the playoff was DPG and Dark. Not only did Dark lose the critical 2nd game (1 match point) of 2 sets against imo worse opponents by doing all-ins, but also was probably not sent out in the ace match against Ragnarok because of those 2 losses, which would've been Dark favored I think.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 11 2020 18:32 GMT
#114
Imagine if GTC were included in liquibets... this weekend's carnage would have been even more severe.
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
October 11 2020 18:57 GMT
#115
On October 12 2020 02:45 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2020 02:41 argonautdice wrote:
On October 12 2020 02:36 TheOneAboveU wrote:
On October 12 2020 02:23 argonautdice wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Here's my MVP analysis. First, it's def gonna be someone on AlphaX, super clutch the whole way.

I'll assign +1 to each victory against a Korean and -1 to each loss against a non-Korean unless you're a non-Korean yourself. Tiebreaker will be who won the most ace-match.

AlphaX vs BraveStar:
Nice 1-1 Cyan no change
Zoun 1-1 Dream +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 2-0 Scarlett no change
Ragnarok 1-1 Dream +1 Rag

Score: Nice 0, Zoun 1, Rag 1

AlphaX vs JinAir
Ragnarok 1-1 Rex -1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Creator +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Maru +1 Zoun
Zoun 1-1 Trap +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Trap +1 Rag

Score: Nice 1, Zoun 3, Rag 1

AlphaX vs DPG
Zoun 1-1 Firefly -1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Cure +1 Rag
Nice 1-1 Dark +1 Nice
Zoun 1-1 Dark +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-0 Cure +1 Rag

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 3

AlphaX vs Kaizi
Nice 1-1 TIME no change
Ragnarok 0-2 Solar no change
Zoun 1-1 Innovation +1 Zoun
Ragnarok 1-1 Solar +1 Rag
Zoun 0-1 TIME -1 Zoun

Score: Nice 2, Zoun 3, Rag 4

So Ragnarok deserves the MVP, besides he also won 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1.

I'll, uhhh, bookmark this for later. :D

The numbers show how difficult that decision is, there was no one who really 'got carried' here, everyone contributed critical maps.


Lol before you do, I actually made a mistake, I forgot to include Zoun 2-0 Solar in the last match! So the final score is actually Nice 2, Zoun 5, Rag 4, so I guess Zoun wins MVP! Though Rag did win 2 ace-matches while Zoun lost 1 so it's close :D


Noooo, so now it's closer again. :D

Still leaning towards RagnaroK as well because of the two ace wins. I'd give the entire team the award, but that feels like a lame cop-out even though everyone deserves it.


I would give RagnaGOAT for MVP even though the votes for Zoun seemed overwhelming.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 19:01:44
October 11 2020 19:00 GMT
#116
1st GTC - Rogue won MvP
2nd GTC - Dark (or Dream???, can't remember well) won MvP
3rd GTC - Ragnarok tied with Zoun for MvP?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33197 Posts
October 11 2020 21:40 GMT
#117
any info on how much extra money was given out via war chest?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
rottenapple
Profile Joined October 2020
2 Posts
October 11 2020 23:10 GMT
#118
On October 12 2020 06:40 Waxangel wrote:
any info on how much extra money was given out via war chest?


0 if you normally buy a war chest. 25% through the QR code I suppose?
rottenapple
Profile Joined October 2020
2 Posts
October 11 2020 23:29 GMT
#119
On October 12 2020 02:05 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Disappointed in Innovation. Kaizi paid the big money to Innovation to be their Ace player, along with Solar. At the end of the AlphaX PartinG showmatch against Innovation, PartinG acknowledged that Protoss has an advantage against Terran in this patch so I understand if Innovation also feels this way about Protoss (Innovation mentioned in the last GSL interview that he struggles against Protoss). But Innovation not coming out against Zoun in the final match was disappointing for what is supposed be the ace player on Kaizi.

Good for Time to step up in Innovation's shoes though. A well deserved victory by Time.

Please don't.
Time was a special player since he was the only chinese player that can challenge the top tier players, with some stability. That also means he's special to the chinese casters, audience, and the team manager. If Inno stand out (and he has a poor tvp performance over all and did not perform well vs zoun) and he lost, it will be his fault. But if Time go for the ace and he lost, it is understandable and won't be criticized that much in chinese community. And Time did had a better records in tvp as well as vs zoun.(Thanks to practices with Status). In the end, Time for ACE is suggested by time and approved by team manager ("inno or time both fine").
I hope inno can have the confidence to stand out, but his behavior is unsurprising, and shouldn't be criticized. Without inno's effort, time won't even have the chance for the ace fight. An excellent final for all players.
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States276 Posts
October 12 2020 02:28 GMT
#120
On October 12 2020 06:40 Waxangel wrote:
any info on how much extra money was given out via war chest?


25% as I heard, but only after they announce the share would go to teams, but most people already bought the war chest long before it.
However, I also hear that they are working to make portraits, decals and other stuff of the teams for next war chest.
SummerCHN
Profile Joined March 2020
China6 Posts
October 12 2020 04:27 GMT
#121
Zoun is very strong. Great professional
Sui
Profile Joined August 2019
26 Posts
October 12 2020 08:04 GMT
#122
It seems Zoun got the official playoff MVP award (worth 5000 CNY (~$750 USD)).
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4902 Posts
October 12 2020 08:35 GMT
#123
On October 12 2020 17:04 Sui wrote:
It seems Zoun got the official playoff MVP award (worth 5000 CNY (~$750 USD)).



well deserved then
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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osliang
Profile Joined June 2019
China108 Posts
October 12 2020 10:37 GMT
#124
Just caught up with the games today... that last game was beautiful, you can't even make this stuff up :D LOL Underdog beaten by underdog
Sui
Profile Joined August 2019
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-13 03:56:28
October 13 2020 03:44 GMT
#125
A message to fans from DPG's manager
https://www.scboy.com/?thread-175274.htm

Google translated text with minor corrections:
+ Show Spoiler +

Team League 2020 Second Season Summary
DPGaming Esports 2020-10-13 00:16

Hello, everyone, I am the manager of DPG and team leader Enchant. Yesterday the second season of the 2020 Golden Team League ended. We lost to AX in the playoffs and failed to make it to the finals.

This result is a bit surprising to us. Let’s talk about the recent state of our four players.

Firefly: Firefly will complete the team's prescribed amount of practice every day. Recently, he has been in a good form. He often won key games for the team during the regular season. The playoffs drew with Zoun 1-1 and completed the task well.

PartinG: PartinG has recently been in a sluggish state, and his physical and mental conditions are not good. Although he maintains a certain ladder practice, physical rehabilitation training takes up most of his energy. For this playoff we only let him prepare for specific confrontations. But unfortunately he didn't get a chance to play

Dark: Dark has always been the hardest working player in our team. He will complete the amount of practice set by the team every day. Recently, he has practiced more than 30 sets a day for the GSL and GTC playoffs. The ladder has also reached nearly 7000 points, but GSL is again being out in the top 16 was a big blow to him and his performance in the playoffs was not ideal.

Cure: Cure was a bit slack after the third season of GSL. After I talked to him, he resumed high-intensity practice, and even beat Serral and Reynor in the KOB game, showing a good competitive state, but his new style of play was exposed too early, and was perfectly solved in the ace match by RNK

Let's talk about yesterday's game. After knowing the opponents, Firefly immediately started to practice and prepare with PartinG. The result was great, and he drew with Zoun 1-1 to complete the task successfully. In the second game, there was no map ban in bo2, so Cure lost one point on the ZVT advantage map picked by RNK, and the score became 1-1. If Cure's loss to Rnk was expected, Dark's loss surprised me. After winning the first map, Dark made the big move of the proxy hatchery and spine crawlers on the map selected by Nice. My understanding is that Dark feels that he has lost to Nice in the regular season on this map, so instead of passive defense, he took the initiative to attack. Dark's has always liked to take the initiative in his own hands. But it’s a pity that this tactic did not work. After the game, Dark told me he's sorry and it was his fault. He was sad. The tactics against nice on the submarine were prepared by him for the gsl against trap. It was not a whim. In the final ACE game Cure vs RNK, Cure used his newly-developed fast 3 base followed by quick-burrow mine drops. This tactic also helped him win the Serral and Reynor streak, but I feel that Rnk already knew the correct way to deal with it. After figuring out the style of the Terran and Protoss, the Zerg player can make targeted defenses. In the end, Cure's harassment play was not effective. Unfortunately, our playoff journey stopped here.

After we lost the playoffs, I saw fans questioning Dark's performance. I want to talk about the Dark players in my eyes as the team manager. Before I took over DPG, I heard some negative news about Dark, but Dark was very polite, obeyed management, and cooperated very well with the team. Our team requires Korean players to train no less than 20 games a day. Replays will be sent to the designated mailbox after the training every day. Dark will send practice videos on time every day, which is the most self-disciplined of all players. In the more than ten days approaching the GSL and GTC playoffs, Dark’s hand injury was a bit recurrent, but he still maintained a training of about 30 sets a day while being treated. During the Korean Mid-Autumn Festival, other players took leave and rest. This is still the case. This is why I trust his strength as a team manager. Whenever he hits an ace game, Dark always says "me gogo" without giving up.

But having said that, although Dark's performance is quite professional, it is an indisputable fact that his performance in the tournaments this year has been getting worse and worse. From the runner-up of the GSL Super Tournament at the beginning of the year to the consecutive top 16 in the second and third seasons of GSL, and then In the team game, he lost to Nice and Zoun, so his next contract is bound to cut his salary.

Having said so much, I just want to give an explanation to the friends who support and care about our DPG, so that everyone can learn more about our team. If you have any questions about the team, please leave a message and reply.

We will definitely make a comeback next season and win the crown again.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-13 04:51:34
October 13 2020 04:48 GMT
#126
On October 13 2020 12:44 Sui wrote:
A message to fans from DPG's manager
https://www.scboy.com/?thread-175274.htm

Google translated text with minor corrections:
+ Show Spoiler +

Team League 2020 Second Season Summary
DPGaming Esports 2020-10-13 00:16

Hello, everyone, I am the manager of DPG and team leader Enchant. Yesterday the second season of the 2020 Golden Team League ended. We lost to AX in the playoffs and failed to make it to the finals.

This result is a bit surprising to us. Let’s talk about the recent state of our four players.

Firefly: Firefly will complete the team's prescribed amount of practice every day. Recently, he has been in a good form. He often won key games for the team during the regular season. The playoffs drew with Zoun 1-1 and completed the task well.

PartinG: PartinG has recently been in a sluggish state, and his physical and mental conditions are not good. Although he maintains a certain ladder practice, physical rehabilitation training takes up most of his energy. For this playoff we only let him prepare for specific confrontations. But unfortunately he didn't get a chance to play

Dark: Dark has always been the hardest working player in our team. He will complete the amount of practice set by the team every day. Recently, he has practiced more than 30 sets a day for the GSL and GTC playoffs. The ladder has also reached nearly 7000 points, but GSL is again being out in the top 16 was a big blow to him and his performance in the playoffs was not ideal.

Cure: Cure was a bit slack after the third season of GSL. After I talked to him, he resumed high-intensity practice, and even beat Serral and Reynor in the KOB game, showing a good competitive state, but his new style of play was exposed too early, and was perfectly solved in the ace match by RNK

Let's talk about yesterday's game. After knowing the opponents, Firefly immediately started to practice and prepare with PartinG. The result was great, and he drew with Zoun 1-1 to complete the task successfully. In the second game, there was no map ban in bo2, so Cure lost one point on the ZVT advantage map picked by RNK, and the score became 1-1. If Cure's loss to Rnk was expected, Dark's loss surprised me. After winning the first map, Dark made the big move of the proxy hatchery and spine crawlers on the map selected by Nice. My understanding is that Dark feels that he has lost to Nice in the regular season on this map, so instead of passive defense, he took the initiative to attack. Dark's has always liked to take the initiative in his own hands. But it’s a pity that this tactic did not work. After the game, Dark told me he's sorry and it was his fault. He was sad. The tactics against nice on the submarine were prepared by him for the gsl against trap. It was not a whim. In the final ACE game Cure vs RNK, Cure used his newly-developed fast 3 base followed by quick-burrow mine drops. This tactic also helped him win the Serral and Reynor streak, but I feel that Rnk already knew the correct way to deal with it. After figuring out the style of the Terran and Protoss, the Zerg player can make targeted defenses. In the end, Cure's harassment play was not effective. Unfortunately, our playoff journey stopped here.

After we lost the playoffs, I saw fans questioning Dark's performance. I want to talk about the Dark players in my eyes as the team manager. Before I took over DPG, I heard some negative news about Dark, but Dark was very polite, obeyed management, and cooperated very well with the team. Our team requires Korean players to train no less than 20 games a day. Replays will be sent to the designated mailbox after the training every day. Dark will send practice videos on time every day, which is the most self-disciplined of all players. In the more than ten days approaching the GSL and GTC playoffs, Dark’s hand injury was a bit recurrent, but he still maintained a training of about 30 sets a day while being treated. During the Korean Mid-Autumn Festival, other players took leave and rest. This is still the case. This is why I trust his strength as a team manager. Whenever he hits an ace game, Dark always says "me gogo" without giving up.

But having said that, although Dark's performance is quite professional, it is an indisputable fact that his performance in the tournaments this year has been getting worse and worse. From the runner-up of the GSL Super Tournament at the beginning of the year to the consecutive top 16 in the second and third seasons of GSL, and then In the team game, he lost to Nice and Zoun, so his next contract is bound to cut his salary.

Having said so much, I just want to give an explanation to the friends who support and care about our DPG, so that everyone can learn more about our team. If you have any questions about the team, please leave a message and reply.

We will definitely make a comeback next season and win the crown again.


Hmm the manager should also credited DPG's success crowned as a champion last season were due to the Dark's performance. I believed that cutting player's salary would let player down some more and this might not the best decision.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 13 2020 07:56 GMT
#127
Very sad to hear that Dark's hand is bothering him so much again.

And even more sad that the team wants to cut his salary even while acknowledging that his work ethic is impeccable and that his performance problem are (at least partly) due to his injury.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
MajiN1
Profile Joined July 2017
113 Posts
October 13 2020 08:11 GMT
#128
DPG is really serious about their players. They want them to practice so hard ! I didn't expected this but it's really interresting to go "inside" a pro team

Hope to Dark to health well for the next season

gg to DPG which is one of the best team
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