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[GSL 2020] Code S - RO16 - Group C - Page 3

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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
October 07 2020 10:01 GMT
#41
No
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
umelbumel
Profile Joined January 2011
2026 Posts
October 07 2020 10:01 GMT
#42
Hospital-Power
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
October 07 2020 10:01 GMT
#43
Stats pretty good at starcraft
Year of MaxPax
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 07 2020 10:02 GMT
#44
One of the most one-sided PvTs I've seen in a long time. Byun really does not seem a ro8 caliber yet. Even if he would somehow beat Maru in a TvT if he plays like this I dont think he has a shot against Parting.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
October 07 2020 10:02 GMT
#45
Well now I'm worried for the Terrans. That build from Stats looks really tough for the meta openings Terrans have been using. Hope Maru has something prepped for that.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
October 07 2020 10:02 GMT
#46
Artosis is 100% right, Stats is the natural counter to ByuN's style. Still it looked very one-sided, hard to see ByuN get out of it now...
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 07 2020 10:03 GMT
#47
On October 07 2020 18:58 Elentos wrote:
Everything in this series reinforces my believe that ByuN isn't ready for this yet and his Ro24 result was a fluke

It's more the fact that the top of the Korean scene is so supreme to the rest. Like the top 10 players are so out of their world. But he can still be in the top 20(ByuN that is) and as such getting to the RO16 isn't as muich of a fluke. Similar to Patience who's certainly not the top player, but he's counted as a serious contender for RO16.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-07 10:05:44
October 07 2020 10:03 GMT
#48
That said, Stats build was basically tailored to hard counter what ByuN was doing (which is what every damn terran is doing in match-up these days), wasn't it? Even the phoenix count was at 4 to exactly 2 shot raven instead of more common 5 unless i missed something.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 07 2020 10:04 GMT
#49
On October 07 2020 19:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
Well now I'm worried for the Terrans. That build from Stats looks really tough for the meta openings Terrans have been using. Hope Maru has something prepped for that.

2 prox rax? 3 proxy rax? Also not sure if Maru is relying on this build this heavily, OTOH he's naturally weak to Parting and TvT, so, uh.... damn.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
October 07 2020 10:09 GMT
#50
I'm wondering. If you opened Cyclones and did a Timing with a couple of Cyclones and Marines, could you hit the natural and the Phoenixes be unable to defend it? It'd be a hefty investment but with Stats going directly into Collosus off of it, he won't have a lot of defense against an early two base timing.

The early Phoenix are there mostly to counter Widow Mine drops I'm assuming. The picking off of the Raven is just the final thing they are useful for.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
October 07 2020 10:10 GMT
#51
On October 07 2020 19:04 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2020 19:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
Well now I'm worried for the Terrans. That build from Stats looks really tough for the meta openings Terrans have been using. Hope Maru has something prepped for that.

2 prox rax? 3 proxy rax? Also not sure if Maru is relying on this build this heavily, OTOH he's naturally weak to Parting and TvT, so, uh.... damn.

Proxy rax is a build order loss to shield batteries
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3517 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-07 10:13:56
October 07 2020 10:13 GMT
#52
Couldn't drilling claw wm drops with a faster 3rd cc be pretty good vs this opener?
e: Stats opener i mean obv.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-07 10:16:46
October 07 2020 10:13 GMT
#53
On October 07 2020 19:09 Vindicare605 wrote:
I'm wondering. If you opened Cyclones and did a Timing with a couple of Cyclones and Marines, could you hit the natural and the Phoenixes be unable to defend it? It'd be a hefty investment but with Stats going directly into Collosus off of it, he won't have a lot of defense against an early two base timing.

The early Phoenix are there mostly to counter Widow Mine drops I'm assuming. The picking off of the Raven is just the final thing they are useful for.

Given the BBQ pandemic of this year, i suspect phoenixes are against hellions more so than mines.

EDIT: That immortal moment was kind of hilarious remembering Maru's 2015 TvP shenanigans.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-07 10:17:04
October 07 2020 10:16 GMT
#54
On October 07 2020 19:09 Vindicare605 wrote:
I'm wondering. If you opened Cyclones and did a Timing with a couple of Cyclones and Marines, could you hit the natural and the Phoenixes be unable to defend it? It'd be a hefty investment but with Stats going directly into Collosus off of it, he won't have a lot of defense against an early two base timing.

The early Phoenix are there mostly to counter Widow Mine drops I'm assuming. The picking off of the Raven is just the final thing they are useful for.

Early Phoenix are useful for almost everything, getting intel, light harass, force turrets so less units in the push, can catch mine drops and deter drops in general since you will lose you medivacs no matter how, lift tanks and last but not least kill the raven. To me it seems that it more or less forces the Terran to give up the early-mid kill timing (when his army supply is naturally higher than the P) and to go mid-late game.

LOL at the immortal saved by the super-battery
edit : of course I forgot phoenix can also lift hellions if need be.
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 07 2020 10:16 GMT
#55
Parting has been quite out of shape lately, but his PvT is still solid and especially PvMaru. I hope Maru takes this but even if he does, give him a very little chance against current Stats.

Surprising no one has been mentioning this but Stats is the best PvT player since CodeS season 2 quite surely ! Actually since September, he hasnt lost a PvT and only lost matches to Trap (thrice), and Zergs (Rogue, Reynor, Solar, Ragnax2)
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
October 07 2020 10:16 GMT
#56
What is PartinG doing
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
October 07 2020 10:17 GMT
#57
On October 07 2020 19:16 Elentos wrote:
What is PartinG doing


Losing to Maru, duh.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 07 2020 10:21 GMT
#58
What the hell are those observers.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 07 2020 10:22 GMT
#59
On October 07 2020 19:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
What the hell are those observers.

pro level observers, duh
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
October 07 2020 10:24 GMT
#60
Hey! Batman wears a cape, and Batman is cool, thus capes are cool. Checkmate Tasteless.
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