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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 11:28:27
July 29 2020 11:27 GMT
#221
Well well, I might have a big zerg biais but the fact is seeing korean z performing this way in gsl is generally a sign of imbalance.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 29 2020 11:28 GMT
#222
RIP my Liquibets
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 29 2020 11:29 GMT
#223
On July 29 2020 20:28 Schelim wrote:
RIP my Liquibets

same, looks like a nice and juicy 0/2
I Protoss winner, could it be?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 29 2020 11:29 GMT
#224
On July 29 2020 20:27 stilt wrote:
Well well, I might have a big zerg biais but the fact is seeing korean z performing this way in gsl is generally a sign of imbalance.

I mean, it was funny watching how somehow Terran does not have a counter to mutalisks anymore, but it has little to do with imbalance here.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33706 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 11:30:43
July 29 2020 11:30 GMT
#225
On July 29 2020 20:27 Yello wrote:
I'm curious why Innovation went 3CC macro every game. Against Dark in the group stage he brought different openings every game, mixed it up and applied a lot of pressure.
The only game that looked even close at one point was the last game were the hellion drop did good damage. Maybe overconfidence, thinking that his standard macro should be better than DRG?

And now Dream basically does the same thing, going macro and hoping that the zerg doesn't know how to play zerg lategame? IMO Innovation and Dream should have prepared more heavy pressure and all-in builds. BC into 2-base 5-rax, proxy 2 or 3 rax, anything to throw the zerg off his game.
Feels like neither Innovation nor Dream have an actual gameplan tailored to their opponents, looks like they play it like it's a ladder game

For Rogue and DRG they just play their standard games, no need to switch up if you can just straight-up win like that


Well, clearly in the weeks leading up to the GSL RO16, the Korean Zergs hatched a conspiracy to make it seem like match-up TvZ favored Terran heavily, making Terrans feel like they would win if they could just play safe macro games. It's been paying off for the Zergs
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
July 29 2020 11:31 GMT
#226
On July 29 2020 20:27 yoshi245 wrote:
I wish Valkyries from BW are in SC2. Terran needs a dedicated anti muta/air blob air unit.


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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
July 29 2020 11:31 GMT
#227
On July 29 2020 20:30 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 20:27 Yello wrote:
I'm curious why Innovation went 3CC macro every game. Against Dark in the group stage he brought different openings every game, mixed it up and applied a lot of pressure.
The only game that looked even close at one point was the last game were the hellion drop did good damage. Maybe overconfidence, thinking that his standard macro should be better than DRG?

And now Dream basically does the same thing, going macro and hoping that the zerg doesn't know how to play zerg lategame? IMO Innovation and Dream should have prepared more heavy pressure and all-in builds. BC into 2-base 5-rax, proxy 2 or 3 rax, anything to throw the zerg off his game.
Feels like neither Innovation nor Dream have an actual gameplan tailored to their opponents, looks like they play it like it's a ladder game

For Rogue and DRG they just play their standard games, no need to switch up if you can just straight-up win like that


Well, clearly in the weeks leading up to the GSL RO16, the Korean Zergs hatched a conspiracy to make it seem like match-up TvZ favored Terran heavily, making Terrans feel like they would win if they could just play safe macro games. It's been paying off for the Zergs

Korean zergs and conspiracy, I've heard this somewhere before
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
July 29 2020 11:32 GMT
#228
On July 29 2020 20:31 Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 20:27 yoshi245 wrote:
I wish Valkyries from BW are in SC2. Terran needs a dedicated anti muta/air blob air unit.


L I B E R A T O R


Too squishy, and everyone uses them for worker harass/killing ground units.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
July 29 2020 11:35 GMT
#229
"Rogue is better than Serral"
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 29 2020 11:35 GMT
#230
swarm hosts incoming
I Protoss winner, could it be?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 29 2020 11:36 GMT
#231
SH-Nydus on Golden Wall? Rogue came prepared, huh.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 29 2020 11:36 GMT
#232
On July 29 2020 20:30 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 20:27 Yello wrote:
I'm curious why Innovation went 3CC macro every game. Against Dark in the group stage he brought different openings every game, mixed it up and applied a lot of pressure.
The only game that looked even close at one point was the last game were the hellion drop did good damage. Maybe overconfidence, thinking that his standard macro should be better than DRG?

And now Dream basically does the same thing, going macro and hoping that the zerg doesn't know how to play zerg lategame? IMO Innovation and Dream should have prepared more heavy pressure and all-in builds. BC into 2-base 5-rax, proxy 2 or 3 rax, anything to throw the zerg off his game.
Feels like neither Innovation nor Dream have an actual gameplan tailored to their opponents, looks like they play it like it's a ladder game

For Rogue and DRG they just play their standard games, no need to switch up if you can just straight-up win like that


Well, clearly in the weeks leading up to the GSL RO16, the Korean Zergs hatched a conspiracy to make it seem like match-up TvZ favored Terran heavily, making Terrans feel like they would win if they could just play safe macro games. It's been paying off for the Zergs


that's a level of coordination that can only be explained by zerg players being a real hivemind. How the hell are protoss and terran supposed to compete with that? I'm predicting zerg to win every single GSL forever now
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 11:37:05
July 29 2020 11:36 GMT
#233
On July 29 2020 20:32 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 20:31 Dav1oN wrote:
On July 29 2020 20:27 yoshi245 wrote:
I wish Valkyries from BW are in SC2. Terran needs a dedicated anti muta/air blob air unit.


L I B E R A T O R


Too squishy, and everyone uses them for worker harass/killing ground units.


3 liberators costs almost the same as thor, got better mobility, so it's harder for zerg to do a magic box trick.

A proper usage of liberators on the other hand - is another sad topic

I'd say you need only 3 of 4 libs in order to be safe from muta + some widow mines
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
July 29 2020 11:36 GMT
#234
On July 29 2020 20:32 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 20:31 Dav1oN wrote:
On July 29 2020 20:27 yoshi245 wrote:
I wish Valkyries from BW are in SC2. Terran needs a dedicated anti muta/air blob air unit.


L I B E R A T O R


Too squishy, and everyone uses them for worker harass/killing ground units.

Aren't the libs the reason zergs stopped making mutas?
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
July 29 2020 11:37 GMT
#235
On July 29 2020 20:32 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 20:31 Dav1oN wrote:
On July 29 2020 20:27 yoshi245 wrote:
I wish Valkyries from BW are in SC2. Terran needs a dedicated anti muta/air blob air unit.


L I B E R A T O R


Too squishy, and everyone uses them for worker harass/killing ground units.

They also just don't deal that much anti-air damage, especially when corruptors are involved
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 29 2020 11:38 GMT
#236
yeah no, Dream is dead. This was a really disappointing day of GSL
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 29 2020 11:39 GMT
#237
ugh, nice last game
I Protoss winner, could it be?
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
July 29 2020 11:39 GMT
#238
Terranpatch

Terran doesn't win a map in 2 BO5
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
July 29 2020 11:41 GMT
#239
Both Terrans got bopped more or less today. Ouch.

If Liberators can be massed via reactors that'd mess up the meta a bit, but they can be made in numbers to at least force a zerg player from considering into going heavy muta investment.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 29 2020 11:42 GMT
#240
kill the butt
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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