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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
July 29 2020 10:49 GMT
#181
On July 29 2020 19:40 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 19:39 DieuCure wrote:
What would it mean on the current level of the korean scene if three of the four RO4 players had taken breaks of two years or more ?


all those ppl who talked about taking breaks and work-life balance were right?

imo, loss of skill from taking breaks is very overrated in general, not just in Starcraft
Snakestyle11
Profile Joined December 2018
191 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 10:51:37
July 29 2020 10:49 GMT
#182
On July 29 2020 19:39 DieuCure wrote:
What would it mean on the current level of the korean scene if three of the four RO4 players had taken breaks of two years or more ?


It means that playing mindlessly for years non stop and do that only has its limits.

DRG was never ever that good, even during his past peak. I think, for some players, military service make them stronger mentally and physically, and it does have its benefits in a game like StarCraft2. The mechanics of sc2 are like riding a bicycle anyways.

The person DRG is today is just way stronger than the person DRG was in the past, and its making him have a higher skill ceiling in StarCraft now than in the past.

/tinfoil hat off


I do think in 1-2 years, Europe will be a stronger region than Korea.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3562 Posts
July 29 2020 10:50 GMT
#183
Still tho DRG went from going 1-4 vs Zest and Impact in season 1 ro32 to absolutely smashing it into the ro4 this time, which is a pretty insane improvement :D
Snakestyle11
Profile Joined December 2018
191 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 10:50:38
July 29 2020 10:50 GMT
#184
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 10:53:46
July 29 2020 10:50 GMT
#185
On July 29 2020 19:46 Lorning wrote:
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On July 29 2020 19:39 DieuCure wrote:
What would it mean on the current level of the korean scene if three of the four RO4 players had taken breaks of two years or more ?

The elephant in the room

Skill level is sinking back to pre kespa days.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
July 29 2020 10:51 GMT
#186
My goodness, DRG!!! Completely mopped the floor with Inno there, super props to him man
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
July 29 2020 10:51 GMT
#187
On July 29 2020 19:39 DieuCure wrote:
What would it mean on the current level of the korean scene if three of the four RO4 players had taken breaks of two years or more ?


*Insert WCS rant here*
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
July 29 2020 10:51 GMT
#188
On July 29 2020 19:46 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 19:39 DieuCure wrote:
What would it mean on the current level of the korean scene if three of the four RO4 players had taken breaks of two years or more ?

The elephant in the room

No, this is the mouse in the elephant's room. ESF players are better after all. They can go away for years and still win, KeSPA players can't do that
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
July 29 2020 10:52 GMT
#189
On July 29 2020 19:50 Morbidius wrote:
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On July 29 2020 19:46 Lorning wrote:
On July 29 2020 19:39 DieuCure wrote:
What would it mean on the current level of the korean scene if three of the four RO4 players had taken breaks of two years or more ?

The elephant in the room

Skill leveo is sinking back to pre kespa days.


So... Fruitdealer is winning the last GSL? Do they even have computers in retirement homes?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
July 29 2020 10:52 GMT
#190
On July 29 2020 19:50 darklycid wrote:
Still tho DRG went from going 1-4 vs Zest and Impact in season 1 ro32 to absolutely smashing it into the ro4 this time, which is a pretty insane improvement :D

yeah he looked really weak back then
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
July 29 2020 10:52 GMT
#191
On July 29 2020 19:51 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 19:39 DieuCure wrote:
What would it mean on the current level of the korean scene if three of the four RO4 players had taken breaks of two years or more ?


*Insert WCS rant here*

this
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
July 29 2020 10:53 GMT
#192
On July 29 2020 19:51 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 19:46 Lorning wrote:
On July 29 2020 19:39 DieuCure wrote:
What would it mean on the current level of the korean scene if three of the four RO4 players had taken breaks of two years or more ?

The elephant in the room

No, this is the mouse in the elephant's room. ESF players are better after all. They can go away for years and still win, KeSPA players can't do that


INnoVation getting beat up by FanTaSy in CTC, beat up by Dream in GTC, beat up by DRG in GSL... maybe he's really afraid of soldiers
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
July 29 2020 10:54 GMT
#193
On July 29 2020 19:52 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 19:50 Morbidius wrote:
On July 29 2020 19:46 Lorning wrote:
On July 29 2020 19:39 DieuCure wrote:
What would it mean on the current level of the korean scene if three of the four RO4 players had taken breaks of two years or more ?

The elephant in the room

Skill leveo is sinking back to pre kespa days.


So... Fruitdealer is winning the last GSL? Do they even have computers in retirement homes?

time is a flat circle
what was will be, and what will be was
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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
July 29 2020 10:54 GMT
#194
On July 29 2020 19:50 darklycid wrote:
Still tho DRG went from going 1-4 vs Zest and Impact in season 1 ro32 to absolutely smashing it into the ro4 this time, which is a pretty insane improvement :D

He started playing way better right after that loss. Maybe he was struck by some inverse curse?
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1798 Posts
July 29 2020 10:57 GMT
#195
On July 29 2020 19:53 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 19:51 Zzzapper wrote:
On July 29 2020 19:46 Lorning wrote:
On July 29 2020 19:39 DieuCure wrote:
What would it mean on the current level of the korean scene if three of the four RO4 players had taken breaks of two years or more ?

The elephant in the room

No, this is the mouse in the elephant's room. ESF players are better after all. They can go away for years and still win, KeSPA players can't do that


INnoVation getting beat up by FanTaSy in CTC, beat up by Dream in GTC, beat up by DRG in GSL... maybe he's really afraid of soldiers

He's afraid of his impending military service so he gets spooked when he faces them
chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
July 29 2020 10:58 GMT
#196
On July 29 2020 19:51 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 19:46 Lorning wrote:
On July 29 2020 19:39 DieuCure wrote:
What would it mean on the current level of the korean scene if three of the four RO4 players had taken breaks of two years or more ?

The elephant in the room

No, this is the mouse in the elephant's room. ESF players are better after all. They can go away for years and still win, KeSPA players can't do that


I'm thinking, maybe it's something to do with going back to your instincts? Like look at DRG's play here, there's nothing "gimmicky" about it, he just straight up macro'd his heart out and won

Like the last game, once you beat that Terran mech army maybe someone who's played a lot would feel, okay, I can macro back up and do whatever I want to win, but DRG smelled blood and went with it, and was rewarded?

The same thing I'm thinking about Parting and his Blink stalkers play - many Protosses have tried that tactic and failed, but Parting just seems to be able to eek out a win, maybe less "practice" made him more close to his instincts to say "this is the right time, right amount of stalkers, let's go" and it messes with people who practice a type of play or a type of build a lot?
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
July 29 2020 11:02 GMT
#197
On July 29 2020 19:51 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 19:46 Lorning wrote:
On July 29 2020 19:39 DieuCure wrote:
What would it mean on the current level of the korean scene if three of the four RO4 players had taken breaks of two years or more ?

The elephant in the room

No, this is the mouse in the elephant's room. ESF players are better after all. They can go away for years and still win, KeSPA players can't do that


Ryung vs Byun finals will be super weird next year.
TL+ Member
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
July 29 2020 11:02 GMT
#198
Dreams is getting wrecked but at least he' trying.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
July 29 2020 11:03 GMT
#199
i had a feeling rogue was gonna win, but wtf is this
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2223 Posts
July 29 2020 11:05 GMT
#200
I really thought this was going to be INno's time
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
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