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[GSL 2020] Code S - Semi Finals Day 2

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Pandemona *
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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
May 29 2020 18:50 GMT
#1

GSL Code S


Saturday, May 30 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2020/Season 1

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Artosis - Tasteless

Format

  • Playoffs:

  • Single-elimination bracket.
  • Quarterfinals are Bo5.
  • Semifinals are Bo7.
  • All 4 players who make it to this round are seeded in next season's Code S.
    Finals are Bo7.

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Semi Finals


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(T)Cure vs (T)INnoVation

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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-29 18:52:39
May 29 2020 18:51 GMT
#2
Poll: Cure vs INnoVation

INnoVation Wins (21)
 
70%

Cure Wins (9)
 
30%

30 total votes

Your vote: Cure vs INnoVation

(Vote): Cure Wins
(Vote): INnoVation Wins




Poll: Cure vs INnoVation II

2020 Robot Upgrades > All (16)
 
64%

2020 Year Of Cure (9)
 
36%

25 total votes

Your vote: Cure vs INnoVation II

(Vote): 2020 Year Of Cure
(Vote): 2020 Robot Upgrades > All

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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2843 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-29 20:11:44
May 29 2020 20:11 GMT
#3
I found the first semi-final to be pretty disappointing, as a viewer. I just want ggs and a well-fought battle.

Cure. I believe.

Year of Cure.

aka wilted_kale
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-29 20:49:55
May 29 2020 20:47 GMT
#4
4-1 for Inno is my guess, and after that another win for Inno in the grand finals. I think he will win TSL as well.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-29 21:45:11
May 29 2020 21:43 GMT
#5
Inno 4-2 is my guess, with mostly standard games from both sides. Inno doesn't need to resort to crazy cheese to beat Cure, and he probably wants to save it for TY.

Cure will put up a good fight each time but eventually get outmaneuvered in macro games. He might try some proxy reapers, but he's never been the type to rely on cheese.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 29 2020 22:44 GMT
#6
INno 4-1 with 10+ proxied buildings from him over the entire series.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 29 2020 23:54 GMT
#7
My head says INno and my heart says Cure, I’m thinking it will be 4-1 or 4-2 in INno’s favor
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10062 Posts
May 30 2020 00:29 GMT
#8
head: INno
heart: Cure
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
SeigeTankEmAll
Profile Joined May 2020
8 Posts
May 30 2020 03:26 GMT
#9
2 of my favorite players clashing, I voted for Cure to win his first GSL but Inno would potentially claim GOAT status with another GSL win to solidify it. Such a tough choice!
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
May 30 2020 03:42 GMT
#10
Finally having a messed up sleep schedule pays off. Gogo Inno.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 30 2020 03:49 GMT
#11
I hope for some longer games, but I doubt it
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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1211 Posts
May 30 2020 03:53 GMT
#12
inno inno inno inno hwaiting
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 04:01 GMT
#13
INno should crush this, but I don't think either of them looked super hot in the previous round so who knows
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 04:04 GMT
#14
casting is the best training, look at Rotti
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
May 30 2020 04:07 GMT
#15
Cure just said he's not gonna play standard? why say that right in front of Inno? lol
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
May 30 2020 04:10 GMT
#16
On May 30 2020 13:07 Die4Ever wrote:
Cure just said he's not gonna play standard? why say that right in front of Inno? lol

Mind games.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:11 GMT
#17
pretty sick intro
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 04:13:00
May 30 2020 04:12 GMT
#18
Their last ro4 in 2014 was barely won 4-3 by INno, had it gone the other way we'd either have had a soO or Cure champion, and SC2 history looks very different.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 04:12 GMT
#19
4-0?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:16 GMT
#20
I like this from Cure with the sneaky expo
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
May 30 2020 04:16 GMT
#21
On Wednesday we were reminded that Parting is not a good player, the same will happen to cure today.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:17 GMT
#22
this looks like one of my games except my banshee would be a-moved into a random turret
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:19 GMT
#23
and I think Cure is probably dead here lol
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 04:19 GMT
#24
Not a fun game for SCVs.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:20 GMT
#25
On May 30 2020 13:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Not a fun game for SCVs.

all SCVs do is complain, I'm not sure they ever have a good game
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 30 2020 04:21 GMT
#26
This is crazy already
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:21 GMT
#27
yeah this game is crazy, stim is soooo far away for Cure he probably should just go mech
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 04:23 GMT
#28
What a strange game
I Protoss winner, could it be?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:23 GMT
#29
if Cure wins this game I'm so impressed
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 04:23 GMT
#30
Cure looked really dead for the past 5 minutes yet now he's basically won. I guess that's the power of the raven.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
May 30 2020 04:23 GMT
#31
What is this first game
IndyO
Profile Joined June 2012
391 Posts
May 30 2020 04:23 GMT
#32
Golden Wall sometimes creates really fun games. Go cure!
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 04:25:44
May 30 2020 04:25 GMT
#33
On May 30 2020 13:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Cure looked really dead for the past 5 minutes yet now he's basically won. I guess that's the power of the raven.

Cure must have built like 5 ravens or something crazy
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1793 Posts
May 30 2020 04:26 GMT
#34
I think Inno sending the first two viking out to the push instead of just taking out the ravens was a pivotal moment. They barely did anything when they could've stopped the turret harass that kept Cure in the game
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:26 GMT
#35
I find it interesting how Cure seems to never build many vikings to try to get air control in his TvTs
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:29 GMT
#36
really sick game from Cure
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 04:30:24
May 30 2020 04:30 GMT
#37
Cure hasn't started his 3/3 and INno's is basically done, but with this much of a supply differential it probably won't matter.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 04:30 GMT
#38
INno finally managed to drag them back to even army supply and then loses because he doesn't have any tanks at his third
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
May 30 2020 04:30 GMT
#39
Inno is quite the optimist, haha
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 04:31 GMT
#40
INno's channeling the power of Fantasy.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 04:31:42
May 30 2020 04:31 GMT
#41
never give up!

E: ah
I Protoss winner, could it be?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:31 GMT
#42
what a fun game to watch!
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 30 2020 04:32 GMT
#43
well idk if its true but i recall fantasy said something like a big reason why he ggs so late is to demoralize his opponent
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:32 GMT
#44
the INno smirk lol
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
May 30 2020 04:32 GMT
#45
one by one!
the farm ends here
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8982 Posts
May 30 2020 04:33 GMT
#46
Has Inno topped his match vs TaeJa? I caught the tell end of the last match and that reminded me of it.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 30 2020 04:33 GMT
#47
On May 30 2020 13:26 starkiller123 wrote:
I find it interesting how Cure seems to never build many vikings to try to get air control in his TvTs


I noticed that too

He's been straight up out-muscling everyone mechanically in TvT, i think that's why he's getting away with it
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 04:34:36
May 30 2020 04:34 GMT
#48
On May 30 2020 13:33 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 13:26 starkiller123 wrote:
I find it interesting how Cure seems to never build many vikings to try to get air control in his TvTs


I noticed that too

He's been straight up out-muscling everyone mechanically in TvT, i think that's why he's getting away with it

yeah I first noticed it in his series vs TY, its been pretty impressive to watch
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:36 GMT
#49
I think Gumiho did this sometimes in TvT
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:38 GMT
#50
what is going on in this series haha
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 04:39:00
May 30 2020 04:38 GMT
#51
Cure sees the mag-field and still goes for hyperflight rotors? That's pretty brave.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1793 Posts
May 30 2020 04:41 GMT
#52
On May 30 2020 13:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Cure sees the mag-field and still goes for hyperflight rotors? That's pretty brave.

At least mag-field doesn't affect banshees. I guess if you're dead set on using banshees vs a lot of cyclone you wanna have speed
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:41 GMT
#53
tank mech just feels better to me than cyclone mech idk
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 04:41 GMT
#54
Didn't Cure and SpeCial have a game in TSL where Cure had 3-3 vs 0-0 and still lost because upgrades don't mean shit in cyclone vs cyclone
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:42 GMT
#55
On May 30 2020 13:41 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 13:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Cure sees the mag-field and still goes for hyperflight rotors? That's pretty brave.

At least mag-field doesn't affect banshees. I guess if you're dead set on using banshees vs a lot of cyclone you wanna have speed

really? I guess I have no idea what exactly mag-field does, I've never actually build the upgrade before lol
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 04:43:15
May 30 2020 04:42 GMT
#56
On May 30 2020 13:41 Fango wrote:
Didn't Cure and SpeCial have a game in TSL where Cure had 3-3 vs 0-0 and still lost because upgrades don't mean shit in cyclone vs cyclone

yeah it was a pretty hilarious game
edit. 3000 post hype!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 04:43 GMT
#57
On May 30 2020 13:41 starkiller123 wrote:
tank mech just feels better to me than cyclone mech idk

Cyclone mech loses straight up, but there's just something satisfying about killing a planetary in 5 seconds without even stopping your units
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2635 Posts
May 30 2020 04:43 GMT
#58
On May 30 2020 13:41 starkiller123 wrote:
tank mech just feels better to me than cyclone mech idk


You need both, a few tanks can turn a fight and cyclone are incredibly flimsy but if you only have tanks you're never gonna leave your base.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:44 GMT
#59
this game is also weird haha
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 04:44 GMT
#60
On May 30 2020 13:41 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 13:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Cure sees the mag-field and still goes for hyperflight rotors? That's pretty brave.

At least mag-field doesn't affect banshees. I guess if you're dead set on using banshees vs a lot of cyclone you wanna have speed


For sure, but you could also choose not to go banshee against someone building a lot of cyclones.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1793 Posts
May 30 2020 04:44 GMT
#61
On May 30 2020 13:42 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 13:41 Zzzapper wrote:
On May 30 2020 13:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Cure sees the mag-field and still goes for hyperflight rotors? That's pretty brave.

At least mag-field doesn't affect banshees. I guess if you're dead set on using banshees vs a lot of cyclone you wanna have speed

really? I guess I have no idea what exactly mag-field does, I've never actually build the upgrade before lol

Double damage vs. armored
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:45 GMT
#62
On May 30 2020 13:44 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 13:42 starkiller123 wrote:
On May 30 2020 13:41 Zzzapper wrote:
On May 30 2020 13:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Cure sees the mag-field and still goes for hyperflight rotors? That's pretty brave.

At least mag-field doesn't affect banshees. I guess if you're dead set on using banshees vs a lot of cyclone you wanna have speed

really? I guess I have no idea what exactly mag-field does, I've never actually build the upgrade before lol

Double damage vs. armored

ah I thought it was just a general damage buff not type specific
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:46 GMT
#63
mech vs mech is so goofy
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 04:47 GMT
#64
I'm not regretting getting up early so far (not that I had a choice really)
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 04:49:09
May 30 2020 04:49 GMT
#65
This is probably the most asymmetric mech vs mech game I've seen in quite a while. And now INno's bringing out the ravens + thors as his late game unit.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1793 Posts
May 30 2020 04:49 GMT
#66
Fun fact: with mag-field, every single lock-on shot on a BC costs 20/15 in repairs
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
May 30 2020 04:50 GMT
#67
On May 30 2020 13:12 Fango wrote:
Their last ro4 in 2014 was barely won 4-3 by INno, had it gone the other way we'd either have had a soO or Cure champion, and SC2 history looks very different.

I've been watching reruns of old GSLs and I think of this kind of thing a lot, like wow this guy wasn't a legend yet and he barely won that match, would he have still become a legend if he lost? would he have lost passion for the game and fizzled out?
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 04:51 GMT
#68
Imagine back when ravens could fire 4 interference matrix instead of 2.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
May 30 2020 04:51 GMT
#69
Innovation is playing so sexy.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
May 30 2020 04:51 GMT
#70
what a sick mech v mech
the farm ends here
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 30 2020 04:51 GMT
#71
this series has potential to be legendary tbh
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 04:53 GMT
#72
we've seen pretty much the whole terran tech tree except for ghosts
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 04:54 GMT
#73
On May 30 2020 13:50 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 13:12 Fango wrote:
Their last ro4 in 2014 was barely won 4-3 by INno, had it gone the other way we'd either have had a soO or Cure champion, and SC2 history looks very different.

I've been watching reruns of old GSLs and I think of this kind of thing a lot, like wow this guy wasn't a legend yet and he barely won that match, would he have still become a legend if he lost? would he have lost passion for the game and fizzled out?

Another huge one was 2016 season 2 ro8 between ByuN and Ryung. Byun barely won 3-2 in a super close series, without that he never wins that GSL or blizzcon and would have probably retired without acheiving anything memorable
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 30 2020 04:54 GMT
#74
Perfect counter from INno
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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10062 Posts
May 30 2020 04:54 GMT
#75
wow cool game
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
May 30 2020 04:54 GMT
#76
very innovative
Liquipedia"Expert"
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 04:54 GMT
#77
Tank BC seems like the most ultimate a-move deathball tbh
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 04:55 GMT
#78
On May 30 2020 13:53 Penev wrote:
we've seen pretty much the whole terran tech tree except for ghosts


And it would have been worth it for Cure to get ghosts if he wasn't so broke.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 04:55 GMT
#79
what a crazy game lol
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 30 2020 04:55 GMT
#80
Very nicely done by INno
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 04:55 GMT
#81
On May 30 2020 13:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 13:53 Penev wrote:
we've seen pretty much the whole terran tech tree except for ghosts


And it would have been worth it for Cure to get ghosts if he wasn't so broke.

TY would have gotten ghosts to EMP the ravens
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 30 2020 04:56 GMT
#82
Feels like Ravens are the eventual king right? Inno played conceptually well and I don't really see what Cure could've done there, Inno gets the mobility and eco advantage and Cure's technique "advantage" seems to be nullified by Ravens.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
May 30 2020 04:56 GMT
#83
Imno's TvT is the all time textbook of all the Terran. Whatever league you're, you cal always learn from him.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 30 2020 04:57 GMT
#84
Cure needed some thors of his own to punish Innovations huge commitment to anti-air. High impact gun would chunk away at ravens and libs during those standoffs too
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 30 2020 04:58 GMT
#85
this series makes me realize how bad pvp is compared to tvt and zvz
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 04:59:20
May 30 2020 04:59 GMT
#86
On May 30 2020 13:57 BerserkSword wrote:
Cure needed some thors of his own to punish Innovations huge commitment to anti-air. High impact gun would chunk away at ravens and libs during those standoffs too


He was using his factories to build tanks, which he really needed or else Inno's cyclones would slaughter his BCs. Thors are horrible against cyclones.
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:01 GMT
#87
On May 30 2020 13:58 Anc13nt wrote:
this series makes me realize how bad pvp is compared to tvt and zvz

modern PvP has somehow made me miss the old hots colossus vs colossus meta
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 05:02:56
May 30 2020 05:01 GMT
#88
On May 30 2020 13:59 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 13:57 BerserkSword wrote:
Cure needed some thors of his own to punish Innovations huge commitment to anti-air. High impact gun would chunk away at ravens and libs during those standoffs too


He was using his factories to build tanks, which he really needed or else Inno's cyclones would slaughter his BCs. Thors are horrible against cyclones.


Not in the lategame.

Yes early on cyclones can trade but when there is a critical mass of firepower cyclones just die.

You cant just mass tanks when the other Terran has ravens, libs, and thors (to actually beat that number of thors you need a critical mass of tanks which never was achieved in battle thanks to ravens)

Innovation wasnt even massing cyclones at that point. He had double digit thors, double digit ravens, and like 1 cyclone lol
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:03 GMT
#89
after seeing these first 2 games I just really hope the series goes to 7
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2635 Posts
May 30 2020 05:03 GMT
#90
On May 30 2020 13:54 Fango wrote:
Tank BC seems like the most ultimate a-move deathball tbh


How? Tanks are the least a-move deathball unit, you need to be careful with siege and un-siege, BCs too are stronger yamatoing and teleporting away that just trading, both vikings and thors take very efficient trades against them.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:04 GMT
#91
On May 30 2020 14:03 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 13:54 Fango wrote:
Tank BC seems like the most ultimate a-move deathball tbh


How? Tanks are the least a-move deathball unit, you need to be careful with siege and un-siege, BCs too are stronger yamatoing and teleporting away that just trading, both vikings and thors take very efficient trades against them.

yeah thors are much more a-move than BCs or tanks
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 30 2020 05:06 GMT
#92
Omg it's baboon vs baboon
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:07 GMT
#93
lol so fiesta
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 05:07:49
May 30 2020 05:07 GMT
#94
Cure wins this

lol
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 05:07 GMT
#95
lol
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:07 GMT
#96
Are 5 reaper + 3 hellion pushes a meta thing now? Lmao.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10062 Posts
May 30 2020 05:07 GMT
#97
hahaahah wtf! xD
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
greenturtle23
Profile Joined August 2019
86 Posts
May 30 2020 05:08 GMT
#98
bop
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 30 2020 05:08 GMT
#99
cure is just a mechanical monster
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:08 GMT
#100
that was just comical haha
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
May 30 2020 05:08 GMT
#101
Inno did not look amused.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 30 2020 05:08 GMT
#102
I really could see the skills of each players factoring into the final results of that game
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 05:09 GMT
#103
On May 30 2020 14:03 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 13:54 Fango wrote:
Tank BC seems like the most ultimate a-move deathball tbh


How? Tanks are the least a-move deathball unit, you need to be careful with siege and un-siege, BCs too are stronger yamatoing and teleporting away that just trading, both vikings and thors take very efficient trades against them.

When I say a-move, I don't mean literally take your hands off your keyboard, I'm just talking about the micro requiement vs how effective the army is. The usually counter to mass tanks is to zone with libs or drop over them, both of those aren't really great with BCs
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 05:09:52
May 30 2020 05:09 GMT
#104
On May 30 2020 14:08 Nakajin wrote:
I really could see the skills of each players factoring into the final results of that game

reminded me of hellbat drops from 2013, TvT is a chess match lol
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 05:10 GMT
#105
On May 30 2020 14:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Are 5 reaper + 3 hellion pushes a meta thing now? Lmao.

They've been meta for about two months now. Since the Maru vs INno match in super tournament at least
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 05:10 GMT
#106
On May 30 2020 14:09 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:08 Nakajin wrote:
I really could see the skills of each players factoring into the final results of that game

reminded me of hellbat drops from 2013

Except Inno usually won those
I Protoss winner, could it be?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:10 GMT
#107
On May 30 2020 14:10 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Are 5 reaper + 3 hellion pushes a meta thing now? Lmao.

They've been meta for about two months now. Since the Maru vs INno match in super tournament at least

sort of fringe meta though, I don't think its that common still
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:11 GMT
#108
On May 30 2020 14:10 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Are 5 reaper + 3 hellion pushes a meta thing now? Lmao.

They've been meta for about two months now. Since the Maru vs INno match in super tournament at least


People have been doing it from time to time. But it hasn't been so common that I'd expect to see both players go for it.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:11 GMT
#109
INno is insane with this build haha
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 05:11 GMT
#110
On May 30 2020 14:10 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:10 Fango wrote:
On May 30 2020 14:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Are 5 reaper + 3 hellion pushes a meta thing now? Lmao.

They've been meta for about two months now. Since the Maru vs INno match in super tournament at least

sort of fringe meta though, I don't think its that common still

I think it's more meta at lower ranks (because everyone thinks they have sick micro). Pros seem to know better
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 30 2020 05:11 GMT
#111
On May 30 2020 14:10 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:10 Fango wrote:
On May 30 2020 14:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Are 5 reaper + 3 hellion pushes a meta thing now? Lmao.

They've been meta for about two months now. Since the Maru vs INno match in super tournament at least

sort of fringe meta though, I don't think its that common still


Actually see it at least once every EPT cup tho (and TSL quals), so it's "fringe" in the sense that all the terran players keep saying it's shit, but then they do it anyway.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:12 GMT
#112
3 cc in TvT just seems so crazy to me
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 30 2020 05:13 GMT
#113
INno is super dead
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blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 30 2020 05:13 GMT
#114
Wtf Cure did the diamond league build
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:13 GMT
#115
On May 30 2020 14:11 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:10 starkiller123 wrote:
On May 30 2020 14:10 Fango wrote:
On May 30 2020 14:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Are 5 reaper + 3 hellion pushes a meta thing now? Lmao.

They've been meta for about two months now. Since the Maru vs INno match in super tournament at least

sort of fringe meta though, I don't think its that common still


Actually see it at least once every EPT cup tho (and TSL quals), so it's "fringe" in the sense that all the terran players keep saying it's shit, but then they do it anyway.


Ah the shitty ravager build of terran builds.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 30 2020 05:14 GMT
#116
This is the greediest build Inno could have gone for.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 05:14 GMT
#117
come on guys, back to interesting games pls
I Protoss winner, could it be?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:14 GMT
#118
lol the imperial march remix, a classic
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16062 Posts
May 30 2020 05:14 GMT
#119
I liquibet Cure for the upset potential and now I'm feelin it!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 30 2020 05:15 GMT
#120
This is what we dont want
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 05:15 GMT
#121
Unbelievably unlucky from INno. The build Cure went for is dogshit vs the standard double gas opener than INno likes. Or even a reaper expand if it's scouted
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2635 Posts
May 30 2020 05:15 GMT
#122
Either Cure wins and its a short 4-1 or Inno comes back 4-3, no in betweens.
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
525 Posts
May 30 2020 05:15 GMT
#123
Damn. I went to the bathroom and the game was over.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:15 GMT
#124
On May 30 2020 14:14 Solar424 wrote:
This is the greediest build Inno could have gone for.

I mean he could have gone cc first but that would actually be suicide
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:16 GMT
#125
The entertainment value of this series has gone downhill unbelievably fast.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 05:16 GMT
#126
On May 30 2020 14:14 Vindicare605 wrote:
I liquibet Cure for the upset potential and now I'm feelin it!

If Cure wins even my shambles will be in shambles liquibetwise
I Protoss winner, could it be?
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 30 2020 05:16 GMT
#127
On May 30 2020 14:15 Fango wrote:
Unbelievably unlucky from INno. The build Cure went for is dogshit vs the standard double gas opener than INno likes. Or even a reaper expand if it's scouted


Cure's build is literally what people do when they're off-racing and don't want to play TvT, I can't believe he did it in a pro match, it's so awful against like everything except what Inno did.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 05:16 GMT
#128
Remember game 2 when everyone was saying how much they loved TvT? And then Cure gets two free wins
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 30 2020 05:17 GMT
#129
On May 30 2020 14:16 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
The entertainment value of this series has gone downhill unbelievably fast.

Last game will be 12 scv vs 12 scv micro battle
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
May 30 2020 05:17 GMT
#130
Cure vs TY would be the least hype GSL finals since RorO vs Symbol
Year of MaxPax
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:17 GMT
#131
On May 30 2020 14:16 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:15 Fango wrote:
Unbelievably unlucky from INno. The build Cure went for is dogshit vs the standard double gas opener than INno likes. Or even a reaper expand if it's scouted


Cure's build is literally what people do when they're off-racing and don't want to play TvT, I can't believe he did it in a pro match, it's so awful against like everything except what Inno did.

yeah that was actually so insanely unlucky haha
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:18 GMT
#132
On May 30 2020 14:17 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:16 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On May 30 2020 14:15 Fango wrote:
Unbelievably unlucky from INno. The build Cure went for is dogshit vs the standard double gas opener than INno likes. Or even a reaper expand if it's scouted


Cure's build is literally what people do when they're off-racing and don't want to play TvT, I can't believe he did it in a pro match, it's so awful against like everything except what Inno did.

yeah that was actually so insanely unlucky haha


Either that or Cure has a soul read on what INno's doing.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:18 GMT
#133
On May 30 2020 14:17 sudete wrote:
Cure vs TY would be the least hype GSL finals since RorO vs Symbol

I actually think Cure vs TY would be quite hype, more interesting than TY INno imo
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16062 Posts
May 30 2020 05:19 GMT
#134
I am vibing so much with this remix. I love the GSL DJ.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 30 2020 05:19 GMT
#135
On May 30 2020 14:15 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:14 Solar424 wrote:
This is the greediest build Inno could have gone for.

I mean he could have gone cc first but that would actually be suicide


I remember getting yell at for being a cheeser on the ladder after killing a guy that went CC first on the low ground with a single reaper, good times.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 05:20 GMT
#136
On May 30 2020 14:18 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:17 starkiller123 wrote:
On May 30 2020 14:16 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On May 30 2020 14:15 Fango wrote:
Unbelievably unlucky from INno. The build Cure went for is dogshit vs the standard double gas opener than INno likes. Or even a reaper expand if it's scouted


Cure's build is literally what people do when they're off-racing and don't want to play TvT, I can't believe he did it in a pro match, it's so awful against like everything except what Inno did.

yeah that was actually so insanely unlucky haha


Either that or Cure has a soul read on what INno's doing.

He must have known INno likes to play 3CC. That build is just so bad vs any standard TvT opener
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:20 GMT
#137
On May 30 2020 14:19 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:15 starkiller123 wrote:
On May 30 2020 14:14 Solar424 wrote:
This is the greediest build Inno could have gone for.

I mean he could have gone cc first but that would actually be suicide


I remember getting yell at for being a cheeser on the ladder after killing a guy that went CC first on the low ground with a single reaper, good times.

when I get tilted on ladder I always go CC first cause fuck it lol
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 05:22 GMT
#138
Wonder what TY is saying while casting this
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 05:23 GMT
#139
Cure has a good murder face
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1771 Posts
May 30 2020 05:23 GMT
#140
Innovation excuse train running wild tonight
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:24 GMT
#141
On May 30 2020 14:23 ssg wrote:
Innovation excuse train running wild tonight

is it though? I don't see many excuses really
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 05:25:43
May 30 2020 05:25 GMT
#142
On May 30 2020 14:23 ssg wrote:
Innovation excuse train running wild tonight

Because going 3CC before factory definitely isn't a build order win vs 1-1-1 one base allin? That's all people are really saying

You could put any player in Cure's position and they would have won
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2635 Posts
May 30 2020 05:25 GMT
#143
Uhh I don't like this build against what Cure is doing :/
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 05:26:37
May 30 2020 05:25 GMT
#144
Has INno sent an SCV across the map every game? And Cure has not sent an SCV across in any game?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 05:27:27
May 30 2020 05:26 GMT
#145
this unscouted so it could work

edit. actually no haha
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 30 2020 05:26 GMT
#146
Wtf is this real life
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 05:27 GMT
#147
well, game 2 was very nice
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 30 2020 05:28 GMT
#148
Inno is so dead
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 05:28 GMT
#149
shambles
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 30 2020 05:28 GMT
#150
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:29 GMT
#151
On May 30 2020 14:27 Penev wrote:
well, game 2 was very nice

so was game 1
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:29 GMT
#152
On May 30 2020 14:27 Penev wrote:
well, game 2 was very nice


And quite possibly longer than the subsequent games combined.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 30 2020 05:29 GMT
#153
Hey guys, this is why you never do this build
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:29 GMT
#154
I don't think anyone predicted Cure to win 4-1
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 05:30 GMT
#155
This is why you don't go for this build kids, Cure had zero tanks/marines/vikings and still holds it.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
May 30 2020 05:30 GMT
#156
On May 30 2020 14:29 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:27 Penev wrote:
well, game 2 was very nice

so was game 1

This is the opposite of TY vs Parting.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
525 Posts
May 30 2020 05:30 GMT
#157
I was hoping for a long series. Would be nice to see Cure in the finals and hopefully winning it all!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:31 GMT
#158
INno should send the ravens across the map and pray that they somehow get 10 SCVs apiece.
Archerylady
Profile Joined January 2011
277 Posts
May 30 2020 05:32 GMT
#159
Is Cure a patchterran?
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 30 2020 05:34 GMT
#160
Aaaaaaaand Cure just threw
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2635 Posts
May 30 2020 05:35 GMT
#161
Damn Inno is really good.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:35 GMT
#162
I'm glad we are actually getting a game again
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 05:35 GMT
#163
series is alive!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 30 2020 05:35 GMT
#164
wtf. how is this happening
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
May 30 2020 05:35 GMT
#165
According to TL's upcoming events, Inno is playing in two other tourneys later? Crazy.

GSL should still remain top of his priority. No excuses for losing.

Just slightly concerned how top pro-gamers are being overstretched and diluting the quality of games across the board...
gg no re thx
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:35 GMT
#166
This is a repeat of Cure's doom drop tendencies from Golden Wall but with an even more disastrous result.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 30 2020 05:35 GMT
#167
Lol for some reason I felt this coming
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 30 2020 05:36 GMT
#168
On May 30 2020 14:35 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Lol for some reason I felt this coming

I deep inside we all know Cure is just Cure and no lack of audience will change that.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 05:37:22
May 30 2020 05:37 GMT
#169
This is cute. Cure is playing the first marine/tank mirror of his life.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 30 2020 05:37 GMT
#170
On May 30 2020 14:35 RKC wrote:
According to TL's upcoming events, Inno is playing in two other tourneys later? Crazy.

GSL should still remain top of his priority. No excuses for losing.

Just slightly concerned how top pro-gamers are being overstretched and diluting the quality of games across the board...


Game quality is always going to unpredictable in a heavy preparation format like GSL. More time to prep = less standard openers and more potential for sharper BO advantages
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 05:37 GMT
#171
On May 30 2020 14:35 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Lol for some reason I felt this coming

probably Mercury

or Venus, could be Venus
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1793 Posts
May 30 2020 05:37 GMT
#172
Cure is too eager to close this out. I think if Inno just stays safe and patient, he can bring back the series. He'll probably do something risky and lose game 6 though
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:40 GMT
#173
dear god lol
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10062 Posts
May 30 2020 05:40 GMT
#174
can cure mentality recover after this?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 30 2020 05:40 GMT
#175
Jesus christ Cure is spiraling out of control
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 05:40 GMT
#176
Artosis went into Wolf territory there but he might be right
I Protoss winner, could it be?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:40 GMT
#177
Oh dear. That was an attack.

Well at least we get to see Obsidian again.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:41 GMT
#178
On May 30 2020 14:40 Penev wrote:
Artosis went into Wolf territory there but he might be right

full Wolf is talking about hair cuts
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:45 GMT
#179
Cure is actually playing decently now but it feels too late
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:45 GMT
#180
Cure's got some nice moves for someone who's down half the tech tree.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 30 2020 05:46 GMT
#181
I think they overstated the importance of INnoVation's mineral dump macro CCs lol
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 30 2020 05:46 GMT
#182
Cool comeback from Inno
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
May 30 2020 05:47 GMT
#183
that looked like one of those “fuck it i just want to end the game” ladder games
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
May 30 2020 05:47 GMT
#184
Inno seems pleased, Cure knows he messed up.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 30 2020 05:47 GMT
#185
I gotta admit I feel like i haven't seen Cure making vikings in TvT for months
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 05:47 GMT
#186
If Cure loses this series is it throw of the year?

Would be ridiculous considering he got free wins in games 3/4, and what should have been a sure win in game 5.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 05:48:26
May 30 2020 05:48 GMT
#187
In-base 2rax on a 4p map LOL
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 30 2020 05:48 GMT
#188
prepare for bcs vs bcs split map
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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1793 Posts
May 30 2020 05:48 GMT
#189
This seems really bad for Cure
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:49 GMT
#190
We haven't yet seen a non-cross spawn game on Obsidian.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
May 30 2020 05:49 GMT
#191
On May 30 2020 14:47 Fango wrote:
If Cure loses this series is it throw of the year?

Would be ridiculous considering he got free wins in games 3/4, and what should have been a sure win in game 5.

Throw of the year already happened on wednesday.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 05:49 GMT
#192
Not even proxy 2 rax in the center? Shameful
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2635 Posts
May 30 2020 05:50 GMT
#193
Its really bad for Cure
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 05:50:43
May 30 2020 05:50 GMT
#194
Why though Cure
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 05:53:05
May 30 2020 05:52 GMT
#195
lol Artosis still hating on Cure? I hope Cure wins now
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 30 2020 05:52 GMT
#196
man why is artosis talking so much trash against cure lol

Cure is playing like a beast in 2020
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2635 Posts
May 30 2020 05:52 GMT
#197
Is Cure going to try to do a double medivac drop? I dunno about that.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 30 2020 05:52 GMT
#198
On May 30 2020 14:49 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:47 Fango wrote:
If Cure loses this series is it throw of the year?

Would be ridiculous considering he got free wins in games 3/4, and what should have been a sure win in game 5.

Throw of the year already happened on wednesday.


Which one? If you're talking about the last game, not at all.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
May 30 2020 05:53 GMT
#199
On May 30 2020 14:52 BerserkSword wrote:
man why is artosis talking so much trash against cure lol

Cure is playing like a beast in 2020

imagine talking trash about a GSL semifinalist who's up on Innovation
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 05:53 GMT
#200
On May 30 2020 14:52 BerserkSword wrote:
man why is artosis talking so much trash against cure lol

Cure is playing like a beast in 2020

yeah he already smashed TY in the ro16, a little odd
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:53 GMT
#201
On May 30 2020 14:49 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:47 Fango wrote:
If Cure loses this series is it throw of the year?

Would be ridiculous considering he got free wins in games 3/4, and what should have been a sure win in game 5.

Throw of the year already happened on wednesday.


Forgetting warp gate or walking the entire army into siege tank fire?
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
May 30 2020 05:55 GMT
#202
yikes
Liquipedia"Expert"
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
525 Posts
May 30 2020 05:55 GMT
#203
Cure...
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 30 2020 05:55 GMT
#204
Choke city
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 30 2020 05:55 GMT
#205
I have a feeling INno will just die to a stupid one base build in game 7
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:55 GMT
#206
???

I guess heading across the map with two medivacs can make sense after all. You could just kill your opponent.
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
May 30 2020 05:55 GMT
#207
LOOOOL, CURE IS DONE
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 30 2020 05:55 GMT
#208
TvT sucks
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
May 30 2020 05:56 GMT
#209
Cure is losing the mental game more than anything
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 30 2020 05:56 GMT
#210
On May 30 2020 14:52 BerserkSword wrote:
man why is artosis talking so much trash against cure lol

Cure is playing like a beast in 2020


i agree. Cure ascended to a higher level like gumiho imo
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 30 2020 05:56 GMT
#211
INoVation is doing the Nerchio pout. This series is over.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
May 30 2020 05:56 GMT
#212
Inno's expression is hilarious.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
May 30 2020 05:56 GMT
#213
On May 30 2020 14:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
???

I guess heading across the map with two medivacs can make sense after all. You could just kill your opponent.

when Cure does it, Artosis talks shit about him, when Inno does it he's a god lol
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ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1771 Posts
May 30 2020 05:56 GMT
#214
I honestly wouldnt even gg there. Defenders advantage on that map should be massive and you turtle up and take your chances
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
May 30 2020 05:56 GMT
#215
Emotional rollercoaster series for sure
the farm ends here
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 30 2020 05:56 GMT
#216
Cure got that dishearteningly bopped. He shooketh.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 05:57 GMT
#217
Cure should just 3-rax reaper.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 30 2020 05:57 GMT
#218
Dragonpenix Gaming Cure, gimme dough
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 05:57 GMT
#219
On May 30 2020 14:49 Morbidius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:47 Fango wrote:
If Cure loses this series is it throw of the year?

Would be ridiculous considering he got free wins in games 3/4, and what should have been a sure win in game 5.

Throw of the year already happened on wednesday.

In PartinG's defense, he was already down 2-0 when he threw.

Cure on the other hand was one map from winning the series, and was absolutely winning said game before throwing it.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 30 2020 05:58 GMT
#220
i still remember game 5 when they showed the facecam because they so sure inno was dead. inno is a fighter.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 05:59 GMT
#221
On May 30 2020 14:56 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
???

I guess heading across the map with two medivacs can make sense after all. You could just kill your opponent.

when Cure does it, Artosis talks shit about him, when Inno does it he's a god lol

There might be an argument to be said that Cure needs to kill his opponent with it to win, whereas INno can kill his opponent with it, but also probably wins a positional game
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 05:59 GMT
#222
On May 30 2020 14:58 Anc13nt wrote:
i still remember game 5 when they showed the facecam because they so sure inno was dead. inno is a fighter.

also Cure had a convincing murder face back then, just now he looked like there's an audience
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 06:01:19
May 30 2020 06:00 GMT
#223
Well looks like Cure saved his last trick for game 7.
Well nevermind
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 06:02 GMT
#224
Artosis praising the cyclone when literally the most standard TvT build is to make 3 reaper>2 hellion>cyclone.

I don't get why Cure is so keen on building his starports out on the map
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2635 Posts
May 30 2020 06:04 GMT
#225
Cures auto turrets: 2 SCVs

Innos auto turrets: 4 SCVs

Its almost comical.
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
May 30 2020 06:05 GMT
#226
On May 30 2020 15:04 Lexender wrote:
Cures auto turrets: 2 SCVs

Innos auto turrets: 4 SCVs

Its almost comical.


At a point the series when it is 3-3!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 06:06 GMT
#227
shambles it is!
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 30 2020 06:07 GMT
#228
This is serious Fantasy GG timing
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 30 2020 06:07 GMT
#229
I think 3 supply is where you can gg
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 06:07 GMT
#230
And in the end Inno threw
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
May 30 2020 06:07 GMT
#231
Meh
Year of MaxPax
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 06:07 GMT
#232
damn I really didnt think Cure had in it him, Congrats!!!
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8982 Posts
May 30 2020 06:07 GMT
#233
That made me so moist
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
525 Posts
May 30 2020 06:07 GMT
#234
Well done, Cure
Estraizher
Profile Joined December 2014
289 Posts
May 30 2020 06:07 GMT
#235
Finally a new champion
~
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
May 30 2020 06:07 GMT
#236
New GSL champion here we go!
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Estraizher
Profile Joined December 2014
289 Posts
May 30 2020 06:08 GMT
#237
So happy looking how relieved Cure is
~
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 06:08 GMT
#238
Even more Fantasy from INnovation.

This series didn't really inspire much confidence in Cure's chances against TY in the finals though.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 30 2020 06:08 GMT
#239
On May 30 2020 15:07 Estraizher wrote:
Finally a new champion

yeah its been a while
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2635 Posts
May 30 2020 06:08 GMT
#240
This series was great and nothing can change my mind, damn.

Also TY is going to destroy Cure.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
May 30 2020 06:08 GMT
#241
TY 4-0
Year of MaxPax
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 30 2020 06:08 GMT
#242
aw luck was not in inno's favour this series. hope cure can take the finals.
IndyO
Profile Joined June 2012
391 Posts
May 30 2020 06:08 GMT
#243
Artosis bias bopped. Cure's proved himself plenty,
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 06:08 GMT
#244
INno had more than enough to defend that btw, his vikings and ravens were just way out of position
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
May 30 2020 06:08 GMT
#245
On May 30 2020 15:07 digmouse wrote:
New GSL champion here we go!

fuck yea
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 30 2020 06:08 GMT
#246
Aw damn - I tuned in just as Innovation gg'ed. Apparently I missed a very close series

Well won Cure!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
May 30 2020 06:08 GMT
#247
Cure almost threw that series, close one!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 30 2020 06:09 GMT
#248
On May 30 2020 15:08 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:07 digmouse wrote:
New GSL champion here we go!

fuck yea

It's the 3rd new GSL champion in a row.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1771 Posts
May 30 2020 06:09 GMT
#249
Tastetosis so biased against cure until the end. Happy for him.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
May 30 2020 06:09 GMT
#250
This is why I always disliked timing attack players - they get cheap wins even though they are overall much worse players compared to macro players.

BG.
Estraizher
Profile Joined December 2014
289 Posts
May 30 2020 06:09 GMT
#251
TY has full 7 game to watch how Cure plays his TvT, hoping for not a bop in finals at least
~
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
May 30 2020 06:09 GMT
#252
On May 30 2020 15:09 MockHamill wrote:
This is why I always disliked timing attack players - they get cheap wins even though they are overall much worse players compared to macro players.

BG.


Don't worry, TY will sort him out
Year of MaxPax
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 30 2020 06:09 GMT
#253
On May 30 2020 15:09 MockHamill wrote:
This is why I always disliked timing attack players - they get cheap wins even though they are overall much worse players compared to macro players.

BG.

I also dislike when people decide to play a video game in a way that I ideologically disapprove of.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 30 2020 06:10 GMT
#254
GG Cure, as expected INno is overrated due to his online record.
TL+ Member
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 30 2020 06:11 GMT
#255
Honestly I feel worst about Cure after his win than before, INno bungled that g7
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rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
May 30 2020 06:11 GMT
#256
On May 30 2020 15:08 sudete wrote:
TY 4-0


That will be beautiful to watch!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 06:11 GMT
#257
the semis went almost max maps so the finals will be a 4-0 for sure

I Protoss winner, could it be?
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 30 2020 06:11 GMT
#258
welp there's always gsl season 3 for inno
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 30 2020 06:12 GMT
#259
On May 30 2020 15:09 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:09 MockHamill wrote:
This is why I always disliked timing attack players - they get cheap wins even though they are overall much worse players compared to macro players.

BG.

I also dislike when people decide to play a video game in a way that I ideologically disapprove of.


Lol it's also a big stretch to call Cure a timing attack player, the guy is super legit in the other matchups. Using the same logic, you could give Inno a lot of shit for both his TvP and TvZ.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2635 Posts
May 30 2020 06:12 GMT
#260
On May 30 2020 15:11 Nakajin wrote:
Honestly I feel worst about Cure after his win than before, INno bungled that g7


Inno bungled 3 games like an idiot, ok 2 games, the reaper/hellion game was such a dice roll.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4549 Posts
May 30 2020 06:12 GMT
#261
TY vs cute
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
May 30 2020 06:13 GMT
#262
On May 30 2020 15:09 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:09 MockHamill wrote:
This is why I always disliked timing attack players - they get cheap wins even though they are overall much worse players compared to macro players.

BG.

I also dislike when people decide to play a video game in a way that I ideologically disapprove of.

you see a lot of this with speedruns too, people get so mad when someone gets Mario to move through a wall lol, cry more
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 06:13:37
May 30 2020 06:13 GMT
#263
On May 30 2020 15:09 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:09 MockHamill wrote:
This is why I always disliked timing attack players - they get cheap wins even though they are overall much worse players compared to macro players.

BG.

I also dislike when people decide to play a video game in a way that I ideologically disapprove of.

Typically timing attack players win less often though. Or have a habit of eliminating 'better' players from tournaments and then losing quickly in the following rounds.

It makes sense to cheer for them less than well rounded or macro players (for some people).
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Estraizher
Profile Joined December 2014
289 Posts
May 30 2020 06:14 GMT
#264
We got the TvT finals that's somehow Maru or Innovation is not on it after that RO16
~
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 30 2020 06:14 GMT
#265
On May 30 2020 15:04 Lexender wrote:
Cures auto turrets: 2 SCVs

Innos auto turrets: 4 SCVs

Its almost comical.


On May 30 2020 15:12 Lexender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:11 Nakajin wrote:
Honestly I feel worst about Cure after his win than before, INno bungled that g7


Inno bungled 3 games like an idiot, ok 2 games, the reaper/hellion game was such a dice roll.


Funny, isn't it ? Cure was just better, there is nothing wrong, the cast was really biased and so was the LR.
TL+ Member
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
May 30 2020 06:15 GMT
#266
Congrats to Cure!
the farm ends here
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 30 2020 06:15 GMT
#267
imagine hating on Cure right now

dude grinded for YEARS and always brought a high level of skill, but has nothing to show for it

let the dog have his day
TL+ Member
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 30 2020 06:15 GMT
#268
On May 30 2020 15:13 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:09 Ej_ wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:09 MockHamill wrote:
This is why I always disliked timing attack players - they get cheap wins even though they are overall much worse players compared to macro players.

BG.

I also dislike when people decide to play a video game in a way that I ideologically disapprove of.

Typically timing attack players win less often though. Or have a habit of eliminating 'better' players from tournaments and then losing quickly in the following rounds.

It makes sense to cheer for them less than well rounded or macro players (for some people).


TY is a well rounded macro player, Maru is a well rounded macro player, INno isn't a well rounded macro player.
TL+ Member
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 30 2020 06:17 GMT
#269
this tournament had no bad outcome for me even before this match (refer to sig for further information) but i thoroughly enjoyed this series and i am glad my boy Cure gets what he deserves
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
May 30 2020 06:18 GMT
#270
Anyone else remember this from 6 years ago?Super close semis between these two. Cure clutched it out this time. What a series![image loading]
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 30 2020 06:18 GMT
#271
On May 30 2020 15:15 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:13 Fango wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:09 Ej_ wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:09 MockHamill wrote:
This is why I always disliked timing attack players - they get cheap wins even though they are overall much worse players compared to macro players.

BG.

I also dislike when people decide to play a video game in a way that I ideologically disapprove of.

Typically timing attack players win less often though. Or have a habit of eliminating 'better' players from tournaments and then losing quickly in the following rounds.

It makes sense to cheer for them less than well rounded or macro players (for some people).


TY is a well rounded macro player, Maru is a well rounded macro player, INno isn't a well rounded macro player.

I never actually said he was. But he's better than Cure (at least in this series).
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
May 30 2020 06:18 GMT
#272
8:18

great..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
May 30 2020 06:19 GMT
#273
On May 30 2020 15:15 BerserkSword wrote:
imagine hating on Cure right now

dude grinded for YEARS and always brought a high level of skill, but has nothing to show for it

let the dog have his day


But INno played all those lol games and he now can't have a symetrical trophy shelf with just 3 GSL trophy
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
May 30 2020 06:20 GMT
#274
can't really fault cure for being weaker TvT lategame player than inno. Back in 2017, gumiho was possibly the best TvTer and I felt like his style was pretty aggressive like cure's. it's just another way of playing the matchup.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 30 2020 06:20 GMT
#275
On May 30 2020 15:18 Wolf wrote:
Anyone else remember this from 6 years ago?Super close semis between these two. Cure clutched it out this time. What a series![image loading]

Funnily enough, Cure also got smashed in the only marine/tank mirror they played back then.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Estraizher
Profile Joined December 2014
289 Posts
May 30 2020 06:20 GMT
#276
On May 30 2020 15:18 Wolf wrote:
Anyone else remember this from 6 years ago?Super close semis between these two. Cure clutched it out this time. What a series![image loading]

I was a bit afraid we'd get the same outcome after game 6
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 30 2020 06:21 GMT
#277
On May 30 2020 15:19 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:15 BerserkSword wrote:
imagine hating on Cure right now

dude grinded for YEARS and always brought a high level of skill, but has nothing to show for it

let the dog have his day


But INno played all those lol games and he now can't have a symetrical trophy shelf with just 3 GSL trophy


Innovation will probably still be contending when he's in 30s anyway. he haas plenty of time
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 30 2020 06:22 GMT
#278
On May 30 2020 15:18 Wolf wrote:
Anyone else remember this from 6 years ago?Super close semis between these two. Cure clutched it out this time. What a series![image loading]


No manner mules this time.
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
May 30 2020 06:23 GMT
#279
On May 30 2020 15:21 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:19 Nakajin wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:15 BerserkSword wrote:
imagine hating on Cure right now

dude grinded for YEARS and always brought a high level of skill, but has nothing to show for it

let the dog have his day


But INno played all those lol games and he now can't have a symetrical trophy shelf with just 3 GSL trophy


Innovation will probably still be contending when he's in 30s anyway. he haas plenty of time


Depends whether Blizzard continue to fund it for the next 4-5 years.
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 30 2020 06:27 GMT
#280
On May 30 2020 15:23 rednusa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:21 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:19 Nakajin wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:15 BerserkSword wrote:
imagine hating on Cure right now

dude grinded for YEARS and always brought a high level of skill, but has nothing to show for it

let the dog have his day


But INno played all those lol games and he now can't have a symetrical trophy shelf with just 3 GSL trophy


Innovation will probably still be contending when he's in 30s anyway. he haas plenty of time


Depends whether Blizzard continue to fund it for the next 4-5 years.


by then Wardi Inc. will have monopoly on the pro scene anyway
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 30 2020 06:30 GMT
#281
On May 30 2020 15:27 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:23 rednusa wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:21 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:19 Nakajin wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:15 BerserkSword wrote:
imagine hating on Cure right now

dude grinded for YEARS and always brought a high level of skill, but has nothing to show for it

let the dog have his day


But INno played all those lol games and he now can't have a symetrical trophy shelf with just 3 GSL trophy


Innovation will probably still be contending when he's in 30s anyway. he haas plenty of time


Depends whether Blizzard continue to fund it for the next 4-5 years.


by then Wardi Inc. will have monopoly on the pro scene anyway

once Wardi figures out how to cast two tournaments at the same time, his ascent will be unstoppable
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 30 2020 06:35 GMT
#282
On May 30 2020 15:18 Wolf wrote:
Anyone else remember this from 6 years ago?Super close semis between these two. Cure clutched it out this time. What a series![image loading]


Crazy to think that this was 6 years ago. It feels like time in SC2 has been moving slower in recent years, with the player base stabilizing and pro players playing for longer. Hell, Nestea basically only had a career of 2 years in SC2, and Mvp really only played SC2 for about 3 years before injury

Back in 2010-2013, it felt like every month there was a new rising superstar.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2635 Posts
May 30 2020 06:37 GMT
#283
On May 30 2020 15:14 DieuCure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:04 Lexender wrote:
Cures auto turrets: 2 SCVs

Innos auto turrets: 4 SCVs

Its almost comical.


Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:12 Lexender wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:11 Nakajin wrote:
Honestly I feel worst about Cure after his win than before, INno bungled that g7


Inno bungled 3 games like an idiot, ok 2 games, the reaper/hellion game was such a dice roll.


Funny, isn't it ? Cure was just better, there is nothing wrong, the cast was really biased and so was the LR.


I mean Cure did what everyone thought he was going to do, Inno failed to respect that and and adapt and died for it.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
May 30 2020 06:48 GMT
#284
On May 30 2020 15:30 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:27 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:23 rednusa wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:21 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:19 Nakajin wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:15 BerserkSword wrote:
imagine hating on Cure right now

dude grinded for YEARS and always brought a high level of skill, but has nothing to show for it

let the dog have his day


But INno played all those lol games and he now can't have a symetrical trophy shelf with just 3 GSL trophy


Innovation will probably still be contending when he's in 30s anyway. he haas plenty of time


Depends whether Blizzard continue to fund it for the next 4-5 years.


by then Wardi Inc. will have monopoly on the pro scene anyway

once Wardi figures out how to cast two tournaments at the same time, his ascent will be unstoppable


With the development of the Wardi text-to-speech NLP bot (WardiBots), individuals will be able to purchase their own WardiBots to commentate on any game at any point in time. 5 years from now, WardiBots will also handle the vast majority of automated sports commentary with simulated twitch chat scrolling by on the right side of the screen
Year of MaxPax
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 30 2020 06:49 GMT
#285
On May 30 2020 15:48 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:30 Schelim wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:27 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:23 rednusa wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:21 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:19 Nakajin wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:15 BerserkSword wrote:
imagine hating on Cure right now

dude grinded for YEARS and always brought a high level of skill, but has nothing to show for it

let the dog have his day


But INno played all those lol games and he now can't have a symetrical trophy shelf with just 3 GSL trophy


Innovation will probably still be contending when he's in 30s anyway. he haas plenty of time


Depends whether Blizzard continue to fund it for the next 4-5 years.


by then Wardi Inc. will have monopoly on the pro scene anyway

once Wardi figures out how to cast two tournaments at the same time, his ascent will be unstoppable


With the development of the Wardi text-to-speech NLP bot (WardiBots), individuals will be able to purchase their own WardiBots to commentate on any game at any point in time. 5 years from now, WardiBots will also handle the vast majority of automated sports commentary with simulated twitch chat scrolling by on the right side of the screen

oh, do they need any help in developing that? i need a job anyway...
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12818 Posts
May 30 2020 08:24 GMT
#286
Nooo INno lost. Hopefully TY wins then.
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
May 30 2020 08:29 GMT
#287
Well I have to say, good job Cure for making this work. But neither of them really impressed me that much today. I feel like there was a ton of unforced weirdness and errors in these games. So I'm not really convinced Cure's gonna be able to avoid avoid TY killing all of DPG in the playoffs.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1913 Posts
May 30 2020 08:37 GMT
#288
On May 30 2020 17:24 Poopi wrote:
Nooo INno lost. Hopefully TY wins then.


He should. I believe he is the much smarter player and has 7 games to study. How much more can Cure really come up with?

Watching game 5, it seemed like all Inno had to do was somehow stabilizing on 3 bases, and his superior positional game would win.
Buff the siegetank
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
May 30 2020 08:58 GMT
#289
On May 30 2020 14:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 14:10 Fango wrote:
On May 30 2020 14:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Are 5 reaper + 3 hellion pushes a meta thing now? Lmao.

They've been meta for about two months now. Since the Maru vs INno match in super tournament at least


People have been doing it from time to time. But it hasn't been so common that I'd expect to see both players go for it.

its been a thing since you could build reapers with reactor

legend has it that one day a terran opened with 1/1/1 reactor rax, and thought, wait instead of lifting this for hellions, i can build reactored reapers

his starport finished quickly thereafter and he thought... my reapers can jump, my hellions cannot. my hellions can't be healed by a medicac, but my reapers can
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
May 30 2020 09:00 GMT
#290
On May 30 2020 15:09 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:09 MockHamill wrote:
This is why I always disliked timing attack players - they get cheap wins even though they are overall much worse players compared to macro players.

BG.


Don't worry, TY will sort him out


cure gonna spank ty if he can beat inno
GuybrushThreepwood
Profile Joined May 2020
16 Posts
May 30 2020 09:06 GMT
#291
I had feeling that Cure could make the finals ever since he whupped TY in the group stage. He was out-THINKING TY. Whataman.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
May 30 2020 09:11 GMT
#292
On May 30 2020 18:00 c0sm0naut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2020 15:09 sudete wrote:
On May 30 2020 15:09 MockHamill wrote:
This is why I always disliked timing attack players - they get cheap wins even though they are overall much worse players compared to macro players.

BG.


Don't worry, TY will sort him out


cure gonna spank ty if he can beat inno

Well I don't think we saw the best version of either player today and if this season of GSL has shown anything it's that if you don't bring your best version to the GSL studio TY is not going to let you get away with it.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4908 Posts
May 30 2020 09:20 GMT
#293
Wow congrats Cure! That was a really cool upset. Yeah, he got lucky in a couple of games, but INno was making risky moves also, doom drops are so coin flippy.....
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
183 Posts
May 30 2020 09:24 GMT
#294
Inno threw the game on Golden Wall, why expand on the bottom when you know cure is there???
Well, unfortunate, I don't feel like watching a mirror finals without a player I enjoy rooting for...
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2214 Posts
May 30 2020 09:51 GMT
#295
A decent series, glad INno made it close but so disappointed he couldn't reach the final, hopefully he keeps working hard and wins S2
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4722 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 10:49:04
May 30 2020 10:48 GMT
#296
For me this was a pretty entertaining series, not the highest level of play, but I don't mind that.
If you win 4 out of 7 maps, you deserve to win, that is pretty much it. Or the other way around: it is hard to claim that one is in principle the clearly superior player when he manages to lose 4 out of 7 maps.
I believe this is gonna be a pretty sweet finals.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
May 30 2020 11:22 GMT
#297
I'm very glad that Cure won! I like him and his cinderella story, he has now his chance to emulate Byun converting his online dominance into offline titles.

Also, Cure just gave us another new Code S champion, disconfessed all those who were already calling Inno the champion and saved us from the rethoric of the unstoppable god resurrected one more time.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-30 11:33:04
May 30 2020 11:32 GMT
#298
you can almost feel people having flashbacks to ladder games they lost when they complain incoherently about players who attack before the 40 minute mark
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4908 Posts
May 30 2020 12:52 GMT
#299
On May 30 2020 20:32 brickrd wrote:
you can almost feel people having flashbacks to ladder games they lost when they complain incoherently about players who attack before the 40 minute mark



yeah, some coments on this thread are hillarious:

- Innovations goes full greedy and doesn't gets cut -> OMG great macro play by INno GGs.
- Cure scouts greediness and attacks -> gtfo you cheeser.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
May 30 2020 13:20 GMT
#300
Great Prep from Cure, although that mech vs mech game 2 was eye opening for me (although it felt that inno had Cure's number in that game)

Couple of wild games in the middle and I felt that they were putting down Cure a little too much... dude obviously had a great game plan (and obviously a bit of luck, that hellion+reaper mirror was jokes)

Hopefully TY and Cure will be a great finals! Any time there is more Mech I am a happy man
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1913 Posts
May 30 2020 14:37 GMT
#301
Great Prep from Cure, although that mech vs mech game 2 was eye opening for me (although it felt that inno had Cure's number in that game)


Has there ever been an asymmetrical mech mirror pro game before? I certainly don't recall Thor/Cyclone/Raven/Liberator working.
Buff the siegetank
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10062 Posts
May 30 2020 20:36 GMT
#302
congratz Cure one more series for your trophy
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Pentarp
Profile Joined August 2015
219 Posts
May 30 2020 21:03 GMT
#303
What an insane series!
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SeigeTankEmAll
Profile Joined May 2020
8 Posts
May 30 2020 21:24 GMT
#304
Hey guys, does anyone know why Cure left Jin Air? He wasn't good enough or did he want to become a lone wolf?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
May 30 2020 21:28 GMT
#305
On May 31 2020 06:24 SeigeTankEmAll wrote:
Hey guys, does anyone know why Cure left Jin Air? He wasn't good enough or did he want to become a lone wolf?


He's not a lone wolf, he is at Dragon Phoenix Gaming, where he gets a higher salary than before at Jin Air.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
SeigeTankEmAll
Profile Joined May 2020
8 Posts
May 30 2020 23:03 GMT
#306
It was all about money, no drama?
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 30 2020 23:35 GMT
#307
On May 31 2020 08:03 SeigeTankEmAll wrote:
It was all about money, no drama?


Pretty sure it was just about the money.

In fact cure recently said that he still goes to the jagw house to practice and drink with his boys a lot
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SeigeTankEmAll
Profile Joined May 2020
8 Posts
May 31 2020 01:46 GMT
#308
Ah I see, thank you. I was shocked to find out he left JAGW. I originally thought he had left because of power struggle with Maru and wanted to get more fame.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25182 Posts
May 31 2020 10:58 GMT
#309
That mech v mech game was good fun especially, WP Cure it’s great that a mainstay of the scene is breaking through in the prestige tournament.

Sad as I love Inno but hopefully he’ll keep this level up after a pretty mediocre 2019 by his high standards.

I’d favour TY for sure, especially as he has a full 7 map series to study but then again I think most favoured Inno going in here.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7291 Posts
May 31 2020 17:24 GMT
#310
as much as I hate to see Terran wins (ESPECIALLY in GSL) at the very least the two Good Guy Terrans I can genuinely feel good about seeing win are in the Finals.

Gogo CURE
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Spinoza
Profile Joined October 2010
667 Posts
May 31 2020 20:12 GMT
#311
That first game in this series was very impressive. The tactical moves by Cure in the last five minutes are well worth a review on their own. He sacrificed four medevacs of marines and tanks in the main of Inno just to instead focus on attacking the entry of Innos base at the same time. It was f**king beautiful.
FanTaSy | Flash | Movie | Leta | Stork | Map:Destination[BW]
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria818 Posts
May 31 2020 21:14 GMT
#312
Are there any good games to watch? Thank you beforehand.
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