On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time.
I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru.
Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence.
Start of the year Maru was not current Maru tho.
obviously because start of the year Maru won a GSL. Only way of current Maru being as good as beginning of 2019 Maru is if current Maru has just win a GSL other than that: Current Maru < start of 2019 Maru
Edit: Okay I forgot where I was, if current Maru wins a WEEKENDER then current Maru > start of 2019 Maru. Because here weekenders >>>>>>>>>>> GSLs
On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time.
I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru.
Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence.
Start of the year Maru was not current Maru tho.
Current Maru just got a j00cy new buff in the patch.
There is no way Maru loses to protoss players now
Let me tell you an interesting story about Maru and Protoss!
Since the start of 2018, Maru is 16-13 in series in TvP; as we all know, however, Maru is much stronger when he can prepare for his opponent and this is especially true against Protoss. Weekender Maru is currently 2-11 in the matchup with an open streak of 0-8; Code S Maru is up 6-2 in groupstages and has an open streak of 8-0 in bo5+ elimination matches.
Maru achieved all of that while Terran were supposedly weak in TvP; now, after the last patch, they don't really seem that weak.
On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time.
I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru.
Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence.
Start of the year Maru was not current Maru tho.
Questionable at best. Maru failed one RO32. This RO16 group seems to me preplanned to the highest extent but that's my paranoia. Also the RO16/32 Maru isn't comparable to the RO8+ Maru. We simply can't tell when Maru is playing
On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time.
I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru.
Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence.
Agree with everything except Trap has been manhandling Maru on ladder. Granted its ladder, but his PvT is insane so I think he would stand a good chance
On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time.
I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru.
Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence.
Agree with everything except Trap has been manhandling Maru on ladder. Granted its ladder, but his PvT is insane so I think he would stand a good chance
I hope so, last time Trap was destroyed but he has definitely improved since then.
On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time.
I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru.
Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence.
Agree with everything except Trap has been manhandling Maru on ladder. Granted its ladder, but his PvT is insane so I think he would stand a good chance
OTOH it's a teamkill. Teamkills don't have logic. prime example is sOs v Maru at Blizzcon. Or Rogue v Maru GSL S2 RO8 2k18 IIRC)
On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time.
I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru.
Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence.
Agree with everything except Trap has been manhandling Maru on ladder. Granted its ladder, but his PvT is insane so I think he would stand a good chance
OTOH it's a teamkill. Teamkills don't have logic. prime example is sOs v Maru at Blizzcon. Or Rogue v Maru GSL S2 RO8 2k18 IIRC)
sOs vs Maru at BlizzCon was a perfectly logical series; sOs knew Maru was proxy addicted at the time and eventually made him pay for that habit.
On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time.
I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru.
Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence.
Start of the year Maru was not current Maru tho.
Current Maru just got a j00cy new buff in the patch.
There is no way Maru loses to protoss players now
Let me tell you an interesting story about Maru and Protoss!
Since the start of 2018, Maru is 16-13 in series in TvP; as we all know, however, Maru is much stronger when he can prepare for his opponent and this is especially true against Protoss. Weekender Maru is currently 2-11 in the matchup with an open streak of 0-8; Code S Maru is up 6-2 in groupstages and has an open streak of 8-0 in bo5+ elimination matches.
Maru achieved all of that while Terran were supposedly weak in TvP; now, after the last patch, they don't really seem that weak.
Weekender Maru is 8-5 in TvP in 2018 and 3-4 in 2019 though? Not sure how you're getting your numbers. And this whole weekender Maru thing doesn't really hold up. He had plenty of time to prep for Stats for GSL vs. the World. If anything, it seems to me like he doesn't care that much for ST and GSLvTW and prefers to use that time to rest.
It's also worth mentioning that he usually gets knocked out by either Stats, the best protoss for years now, or sOs, his practice partner.
On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time.
I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru.
Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence.
Start of the year Maru was not current Maru tho.
Current Maru just got a j00cy new buff in the patch.
There is no way Maru loses to protoss players now
Let me tell you an interesting story about Maru and Protoss!
Since the start of 2018, Maru is 16-13 in series in TvP; as we all know, however, Maru is much stronger when he can prepare for his opponent and this is especially true against Protoss. Weekender Maru is currently 2-11 in the matchup with an open streak of 0-8; Code S Maru is up 6-2 in groupstages and has an open streak of 8-0 in bo5+ elimination matches.
Maru achieved all of that while Terran were supposedly weak in TvP; now, after the last patch, they don't really seem that weak.
Weekender Maru is 8-5 in TvP in 2018 and 3-4 in 2019 though? Not sure how you're getting your numbers. And this whole weekender Maru thing doesn't really hold up. He had plenty of time to prep for Stats for GSL vs. the World. If anything, it seems to me like he doesn't care that much for ST and GSLvTW and prefers to use that time to rest.
It's also worth mentioning that he usually gets knocked out by either Stats, the best protoss for years now, or sOs, his practice partner.
I considered only offline games against korean Protoss since January 2018, source is Aligulac. Weekender Maru is a thing considering how hard he failed at BlizzCon and IEM, I guess he cares about those(and he only won a single non Starleague tournament in his nine years career).
On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time.
I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru.
Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence.
Start of the year Maru was not current Maru tho.
obviously because start of the year Maru won a GSL. Only was of current Maru being as good as beginning of 2019 Maru is if current Maru has just win a GSL other than that: Current Maru < start of 2019 Maru
Edit: Okay I forgot where I was, if current Maru wins a WEEKENDER then current Maru > start of 2019 Maru. Because here weekenders >>>>>>>>>>> GSLs
but if weekenders >>>>>>>>>>> GSLs, then why couldn't Stats make the GSL quarterfinals at all this year??? shouldn't it be easy for him? /s
On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time.
I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru.
Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence.
Start of the year Maru was not current Maru tho.
Current Maru just got a j00cy new buff in the patch.
There is no way Maru loses to protoss players now
Let me tell you an interesting story about Maru and Protoss!
Since the start of 2018, Maru is 16-13 in series in TvP; as we all know, however, Maru is much stronger when he can prepare for his opponent and this is especially true against Protoss. Weekender Maru is currently 2-11 in the matchup with an open streak of 0-8; Code S Maru is up 6-2 in groupstages and has an open streak of 8-0 in bo5+ elimination matches.
Maru achieved all of that while Terran were supposedly weak in TvP; now, after the last patch, they don't really seem that weak.
Weekender Maru is 8-5 in TvP in 2018 and 3-4 in 2019 though? Not sure how you're getting your numbers. And this whole weekender Maru thing doesn't really hold up. He had plenty of time to prep for Stats for GSL vs. the World. If anything, it seems to me like he doesn't care that much for ST and GSLvTW and prefers to use that time to rest.
It's also worth mentioning that he usually gets knocked out by either Stats, the best protoss for years now, or sOs, his practice partner.
If he has wrist / shoulder issues, resting isn't such a bad idea though
On September 04 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote: No Protoss can beat Maru, he will easily reach the finals unless Keen somehow trascends. TY has to practice hard to improve his TvZ, if he reaches the finals he will win this time.
I'm pretty sure Trap/Classic/Dear all have a shot against Maru.
Classic's TvP is not up to the task, he might not even be favored against Special; no chanche against Maru(sadly). Dear didn't beat Maru when he was on a 20-0 streak, I don't think he'll be able to do it now. Trap's PvT seems good but I still think Maru is favored; also, Trap seems to suffer Maru as an opponent, he should borrow sOs's confidence.
Start of the year Maru was not current Maru tho.
Current Maru just got a j00cy new buff in the patch.
There is no way Maru loses to protoss players now
Let me tell you an interesting story about Maru and Protoss!
Since the start of 2018, Maru is 16-13 in series in TvP; as we all know, however, Maru is much stronger when he can prepare for his opponent and this is especially true against Protoss. Weekender Maru is currently 2-11 in the matchup with an open streak of 0-8; Code S Maru is up 6-2 in groupstages and has an open streak of 8-0 in bo5+ elimination matches.
Maru achieved all of that while Terran were supposedly weak in TvP; now, after the last patch, they don't really seem that weak.
Weekender Maru is 8-5 in TvP in 2018 and 3-4 in 2019 though? Not sure how you're getting your numbers. And this whole weekender Maru thing doesn't really hold up. He had plenty of time to prep for Stats for GSL vs. the World. If anything, it seems to me like he doesn't care that much for ST and GSLvTW and prefers to use that time to rest.
It's also worth mentioning that he usually gets knocked out by either Stats, the best protoss for years now, or sOs, his practice partner.
I considered only offline games against korean Protoss since January 2018, source is Aligulac. Weekender Maru is a thing considering how hard he failed at BlizzCon and IEM, I guess he cares about those(and he only won a single non Starleague tournament in his nine years career).
Every terran failed hard at IEM this year, did we forget about that? He made the Ro4 last year and lost to the champion. And as you said, sOs punished him at Blizzcon, you know, because he knows Maru that well. Team kills create weird games.
His past results in weekenders are decent considering he barely attended them. He didn't even play at DreamHack, Redbull, ASUS ROG before and now, etc. HSC couldn't get Maru to play either. That's a ton of missed opportunities. The several times he did try was for IEM basically. His lack of weekender results is due to the fact that he doesn't prioritize them like he did with Proleague and Starleagues.
On September 05 2019 15:47 Poopi wrote: If he has wrist / shoulder issues, resting isn't such a bad idea though
I agree, and it's obvious that it was still affecting him during this group. I'm quite worried it'll worsen and affect the playoffs.
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