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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 27 2019 19:47 GMT
#181
TL-throw? Those 4 ultras were painful
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 27 2019 19:49 GMT
#182
This is way too close of a call for Serral against TLO. TLO has him in terms of strategy. Serral is trying to power through with better execution.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 27 2019 19:57 GMT
#183
On June 28 2019 04:13 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 02:14 Xain0n wrote:
On June 28 2019 02:10 Fango wrote:
On June 28 2019 02:04 Xain0n wrote:
On June 28 2019 01:56 Ej_ wrote:
On June 28 2019 01:53 Xain0n wrote:
On June 28 2019 01:50 Ej_ wrote:
On June 28 2019 01:46 Xain0n wrote:
On June 28 2019 01:42 Nakajin wrote:
Serral ain't no Dark


Fortunately for Serral!
Serral hasn't faced Protoss worth of his level this year except for Neeb(who beat him).

shame that PtitDrogo wasn't worth Serral's level and only won 2 games out of 5 :/


Do you think Drogo is at Serral's level? I hope you don't.
Serral struggling against him is a clear indication he is vulnerable in PvZ at the moment.


I think you are the level of people that you have close series against. Maybe that's just my delusion tho.


So I guess TaeJa was right at Serral's level at the end of 2018, brilliant.

They were in that specific series, at least in TvZ.


Ok, let's go on and say Meomaika is clearly a better player than Maru in TvZ(or least he must be close to) because he beat him 2-0.

You are at the same level of people who consistently play close series against you, not just a single one.

Taeja was winning/being consistent against Serral in macro games, in a bo5. He played extremely well, and Serral looked to be struggling against that style of terran (which he probably wasn't used to). Meomaika won in a short bo3 with meme builds that he prepared specifically to snipe Maru with.

You don't get (as much) credit for winning with build order wins. If Meo and Maru played as well as they did for 20 games, Maru probably wins the next 17. If Taeja and Serral played as well as they did for 20 more games, it would probably be pretty close. (Although if that happened practically Serral would end up dominating as he would likely improve his ZvT).

I'm usually one of the first people on here to discredit Taeja's wins, but in that series him and Serral absolutely played at a close level. Taeja was on fire and Serral's ZvT wasn't as mapped out as his other two matchups.


Every Zerg was struggling against Terran in that tournament and TaeJa "consistently" won two games in which Serral insisted to go for pre-buff Ultras; I guess Serral wouldn't have proceeded to sweep Bunny and win the finals against Inno if he were at TaeJa's level(coincidentally, he preferred GGlords).

It's hard to assess anything properly if you take single series in consideration, Solar beat TaeJa and Inno beat Solar convincingly, how could Serral struggle against TaeJa by this logic?

TaeJa played a great series against Serral and he was in a deceivingly good shape, but definitely not at the same level Serral was.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 27 2019 20:00 GMT
#184
You can tell Serral isn't at his best by the fact he was chasing lings with corruptors and killed his own overlord in the process.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
June 27 2019 20:01 GMT
#185
The last march of the ents did not work out this time.
why even
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 27 2019 20:01 GMT
#186
damn that could have been 2-0 for TLO with one less mistake
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
June 27 2019 20:01 GMT
#187
Why was he marching 10 spore crawlers off creep tho
Year of MaxPax
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 27 2019 20:02 GMT
#188
On June 28 2019 05:01 sudete wrote:
Why was he marching 10 spore crawlers off creep tho

He wanted to push. For some reason.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 27 2019 20:05 GMT
#189
Literally all the good music is on B-stream I dunno what is going on.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany475 Posts
June 27 2019 20:07 GMT
#190
Well it was obvious, TLO's only chance to win the game was to completely crush Serrals army in one big fight, so he HAD to try to walk the spores to Serrals Base.
TLO had the worse air army and the worse ground army and Serral was already on his way to hive tech
Have a nice day!
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
June 27 2019 20:08 GMT
#191
Spores and spines should be able to go in and out of nyduses tbh
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 27 2019 20:09 GMT
#192
On June 28 2019 05:08 Durnuu wrote:
Spores and spines should be able to go in and out of nyduses tbh

Spines should have blink to make up for the fact that their burrow time is slower than making a mothership.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany475 Posts
June 27 2019 20:10 GMT
#193
On June 28 2019 05:08 Durnuu wrote:
Spores and spines should be able to go in and out of nyduses tbh

Ehm... no? They are buildings, not units. Otherwise one could say that flying Terran buildings should fit into Medivacs :D
Have a nice day!
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
June 27 2019 20:15 GMT
#194
uThermal vs TLO, EU vs NA hype
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
June 27 2019 20:15 GMT
#195
On June 28 2019 05:10 watchlulu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 05:08 Durnuu wrote:
Spores and spines should be able to go in and out of nyduses tbh

Ehm... no? They are buildings, not units. Otherwise one could say that flying Terran buildings should fit into Medivacs :D

r/ whoooooosh
Faker is the GOAT!
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
June 27 2019 20:29 GMT
#196
On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level


At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7196 Posts
June 27 2019 20:33 GMT
#197
On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level


At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level.

You should see our shitposter discord
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
June 27 2019 20:34 GMT
#198
On June 28 2019 05:33 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:
On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level


At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level.

You should see our shitposter discord

I don't think he should.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7196 Posts
June 27 2019 20:35 GMT
#199
On June 28 2019 05:34 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2019 05:33 Luolis wrote:
On June 28 2019 05:29 Xain0n wrote:
On June 28 2019 04:28 Ej_ wrote:
Finally TLO can play someone worthy of his level


At this point I'm honestly surprised not to see you chanting "Serral is washed up". Serral clearly isn't worth of Serral's level.

You should see our shitposter discord

I don't think he should.

true. It could break him
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Need
Profile Joined March 2019
566 Posts
June 27 2019 20:36 GMT
#200
I like how hard Reynor is trying to provide insightful input but Lambo knows everything inside out lol
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