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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 22 2019 12:27 GMT
#161
I was really hoping for floating buildings after losing to this
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
May 22 2019 12:29 GMT
#162
annoying that it’s so easy for Z to walk the razors edge and be behind in econ so badly and still win
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 22 2019 12:30 GMT
#163
On May 22 2019 21:26 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 21:21 Ej_ wrote:
Is he seriouslygoing RR SH vs speed banshees?

What about now?

Missed the ending of the game, but I doubt the win was, because of the genious strategic choice more than FanTaSy's own inability.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27351 Posts
May 22 2019 12:31 GMT
#164
Darn internet where I am is too choppy to stream, keep me posted folks
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 22 2019 12:32 GMT
#165
On May 22 2019 21:29 renaissanceMAN wrote:
annoying that it’s so easy for Z to walk the razors edge and be behind in econ so badly and still win


Let's be real here. Ragnarok's ZvT has been phenomenal recently

For example, he advanced to Ro16 by beating both TY and Special in the Ro32

also, in this year's IEM he escaped the group of death at the expense of Gumiho and Innovation
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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 22 2019 12:34 GMT
#166
I think fantasy played well that game, the rush distance really helped ragnarok a ton, if it was cross positions I'd bet on fantasy winning.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
May 22 2019 12:34 GMT
#167
On May 22 2019 21:32 BerserkSword wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 21:29 renaissanceMAN wrote:
annoying that it’s so easy for Z to walk the razors edge and be behind in econ so badly and still win


Let's be real here. Ragnarok's ZvT has been phenomenal recently

For example, he advanced to Ro16 by beating both TY and Special in the Ro32

also, in this year's IEM he escaped the group of death at the expense of Gumiho and Innovation


patchzerg

jk; but what should fantasy have done differently?
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-22 12:38:07
May 22 2019 12:35 GMT
#168
On May 22 2019 21:34 IshinShishi wrote:
I think fantasy played well that game, the rush distance really helped ragnarok a ton, if it was cross positions I'd bet on fantasy winning.

he shouldve pumped moar banshees in that game those immortal queens won ragnarok da game
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 22 2019 12:35 GMT
#169
On May 22 2019 21:34 IshinShishi wrote:
I think fantasy played well that game, the rush distance really helped ragnarok a ton, if it was cross positions I'd bet on fantasy winning.


I feel like Ragnarok did that in the first place because of the positions, I can't imagine that even being viable cross.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 22 2019 12:36 GMT
#170
Disappointed for Fantasy, but grats to Ragnarok.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Mlord
Profile Joined February 2013
France135 Posts
May 22 2019 12:36 GMT
#171
On May 22 2019 21:30 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 21:26 deacon.frost wrote:
On May 22 2019 21:21 Ej_ wrote:
Is he seriouslygoing RR SH vs speed banshees?

What about now?

Missed the ending of the game, but I doubt the win was, because of the genious strategic choice more than FanTaSy's own inability.


RR SH is one of the strongest timing push a zerg can hit vs someone always going mech on small map i don't understand what you dislike about it
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seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 22 2019 12:36 GMT
#172
On May 22 2019 21:34 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 21:32 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 22 2019 21:29 renaissanceMAN wrote:
annoying that it’s so easy for Z to walk the razors edge and be behind in econ so badly and still win


Let's be real here. Ragnarok's ZvT has been phenomenal recently

For example, he advanced to Ro16 by beating both TY and Special in the Ro32

also, in this year's IEM he escaped the group of death at the expense of Gumiho and Innovation


patchzerg

jk; but what should fantasy have done differently?

i think new map pool should be put on hold in the middle of the new tournament season
BirdBird
Profile Joined May 2019
34 Posts
May 22 2019 12:37 GMT
#173
On May 22 2019 21:34 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 21:32 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 22 2019 21:29 renaissanceMAN wrote:
annoying that it’s so easy for Z to walk the razors edge and be behind in econ so badly and still win


Let's be real here. Ragnarok's ZvT has been phenomenal recently

For example, he advanced to Ro16 by beating both TY and Special in the Ro32

also, in this year's IEM he escaped the group of death at the expense of Gumiho and Innovation


patchzerg

jk; but what should fantasy have done differently?


way more speed banshee
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-22 12:38:05
May 22 2019 12:37 GMT
#174
On May 22 2019 21:36 seemsgood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 21:34 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On May 22 2019 21:32 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 22 2019 21:29 renaissanceMAN wrote:
annoying that it’s so easy for Z to walk the razors edge and be behind in econ so badly and still win


Let's be real here. Ragnarok's ZvT has been phenomenal recently

For example, he advanced to Ro16 by beating both TY and Special in the Ro32

also, in this year's IEM he escaped the group of death at the expense of Gumiho and Innovation


patchzerg

jk; but what should fantasy have done differently?

i think new map pool should be put on hold in the middle of the new tournament season

Cobalt has been in the pool since Day 1 of Season 2.

Fantasy won the game on a "new" map, ironically.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
May 22 2019 12:39 GMT
#175
On May 22 2019 21:34 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 21:32 BerserkSword wrote:
On May 22 2019 21:29 renaissanceMAN wrote:
annoying that it’s so easy for Z to walk the razors edge and be behind in econ so badly and still win


Let's be real here. Ragnarok's ZvT has been phenomenal recently

For example, he advanced to Ro16 by beating both TY and Special in the Ro32

also, in this year's IEM he escaped the group of death at the expense of Gumiho and Innovation


patchzerg

jk; but what should fantasy have done differently?


Wasn't a fan of going speed banshees on a vertically split map like cobalt. You lose the edge if the zerg player capitalizes, which he did. other base is a bit too close imo

Also, he couldve used banshee micro to drive swarm hosts back imo. instead of picking off a handful of drones and getting zoned out by to spores.

If he focused completely on defending i think Fantasy couldve dragged himself back into a late game with far off expansions
TL+ Member
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
May 22 2019 12:39 GMT
#176
Moar Cobalt hype, what a day we are havin
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 22 2019 12:41 GMT
#177
On May 22 2019 21:36 Mlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 21:30 Ej_ wrote:
On May 22 2019 21:26 deacon.frost wrote:
On May 22 2019 21:21 Ej_ wrote:
Is he seriouslygoing RR SH vs speed banshees?

What about now?

Missed the ending of the game, but I doubt the win was, because of the genious strategic choice more than FanTaSy's own inability.


RR SH is one of the strongest timing push a zerg can hit vs someone always going mech on small map i don't understand what you dislike about it

I think it's pretty terrible vs banshe/hellion/cyclone, but I have to say then that I overestimated close positions rush distance on Cobalt (and I wasn't watching the game closely in the first place so there's that)

all in all I suck as a viewer ;o
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 22 2019 12:42 GMT
#178
TFW Turbo Cruise is so bad that progamers would rather play the 4p map.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27351 Posts
May 22 2019 12:42 GMT
#179
On May 22 2019 21:41 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 21:36 Mlord wrote:
On May 22 2019 21:30 Ej_ wrote:
On May 22 2019 21:26 deacon.frost wrote:
On May 22 2019 21:21 Ej_ wrote:
Is he seriouslygoing RR SH vs speed banshees?

What about now?

Missed the ending of the game, but I doubt the win was, because of the genious strategic choice more than FanTaSy's own inability.


RR SH is one of the strongest timing push a zerg can hit vs someone always going mech on small map i don't understand what you dislike about it

I think it's pretty terrible vs banshe/hellion/cyclone, but I have to say then that I overestimated close positions rush distance on Cobalt (and I wasn't watching the game closely in the first place so there's that)

all in all I suck as a viewer ;o

I mean I got the wrong winner from a game so at worst you’re the second suckiest viewer today
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
May 22 2019 12:43 GMT
#180
On May 22 2019 21:30 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 21:26 deacon.frost wrote:
On May 22 2019 21:21 Ej_ wrote:
Is he seriouslygoing RR SH vs speed banshees?

What about now?

Missed the ending of the game, but I doubt the win was, because of the genious strategic choice more than FanTaSy's own inability.

I wouldn't say so, IMO close positions and good defense with spores. In different positions - maybe. In these positions were SHs probably the best choice against this style.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
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