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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-25 20:36:03
February 25 2019 20:33 GMT
#561
On February 26 2019 05:31 Charoisaur wrote:
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On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote:
Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units

Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible


Upgrades are enormous for bio, lings, zealots etc. It's a massive uphill battle for all 3 races if you're fighting with those units while down multiple upgrades.

Rotti specifically mentioned gateway units because it was the P playing at the upgrade disadvantage but i see no reason to make it about racial balance.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
February 25 2019 20:33 GMT
#562
On February 26 2019 05:31 IshinShishi wrote:
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On February 26 2019 05:30 yht9657 wrote:
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote:
and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.

That applies to literally every race in this game

Really doesnt, you can do a whole macro cycle and come back to your zealots chasing terrified units :D

or you come back to all your templar being EMPed and the terran ball stimming on top of your army
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
February 25 2019 20:33 GMT
#563
On February 26 2019 05:30 DBooN wrote:
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On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote:
and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.

Alive was constantly controlling worse than herO towards the end I think.

I don't think Alive was microing that badly, but he was definitely trying to do too much when all he needed to was to focus on the main push. After the big early game advantage he should just get 2/2 and bunkers, what could hero do then? Roll over and die pretty much.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
February 25 2019 20:34 GMT
#564
On February 26 2019 05:33 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2019 05:30 DBooN wrote:
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote:
and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.

Alive was constantly controlling worse than herO towards the end I think.

I don't think Alive was microing that badly, but he was definitely trying to do too much when all he needed to was to focus on the main push. After the big early game advantage he should just get 2/2 and bunkers, what could hero do then? Roll over and die pretty much.

yeah I don't get why he never got a defensive stance. It's not like he didn't know herO was kinda broke too, with no forges. Just get bunkers indeed.
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
February 25 2019 20:34 GMT
#565
Gotta love Rottis and Demus analytical cast.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
February 25 2019 20:34 GMT
#566
On February 26 2019 05:31 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2019 05:30 yht9657 wrote:
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote:
and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.

That applies to literally every race in this game

Really doesnt, you can do a whole macro cycle and come back to your zealots chasing terrified units :D

Strange, I only recall not paying attention to my warp prism filled with HTs for 1 sec and 5 marines sniped it.
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
February 25 2019 20:34 GMT
#567
On February 26 2019 05:33 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2019 05:30 DBooN wrote:
On February 26 2019 05:29 IshinShishi wrote:
and thats what happens when you dont look at your army playing terran, every advantage goes to the shitter in 1 sec.

Alive was constantly controlling worse than herO towards the end I think.

I don't think Alive was microing that badly, but he was definitely trying to do too much when all he needed to was to focus on the main push. After the big early game advantage he should just get 2/2 and bunkers, what could hero do then? Roll over and die pretty much.


He kept trying to push out and counterattacking while knowing just how few probes herO's got. Probably pressure got to him that he didn't notice the lack of forges but yeah, once you saw herO keeps trying to attack you, why not just stay back and maybe build a bunker at the third?
Chinese teams flair when
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
February 25 2019 20:36 GMT
#568
On February 26 2019 05:31 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote:
Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units

Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible

rotti is objectively among the least biased casters. of course he sees things from the protoss POV because that's his race, but he's aware of his own biases, calls them out, and also counteracts them by making valid points from the other races' perspective too. if you've ever watched him stream you know that he has a pretty great competitive attitude toward balance
TL+ Member
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
February 25 2019 20:36 GMT
#569
aLive sees no third, builds his own on location. What ??
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
February 25 2019 20:37 GMT
#570
those games are sooo stupid and fun ^^
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
February 25 2019 20:38 GMT
#571
This is perfect PvT
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 25 2019 20:39 GMT
#572
On February 26 2019 05:36 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2019 05:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote:
Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units

Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible

rotti is objectively among the least biased casters. of course he sees things from the protoss POV because that's his race, but he's aware of his own biases, calls them out, and also counteracts them by making valid points from the other races' perspective too. if you've ever watched him stream you know that he has a pretty great competitive attitude toward balance


I dunno how you objectively measure caster bias. Personally I also don't think he's that biased relative to his peers, but I don't think that's in any way objective.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
February 25 2019 20:40 GMT
#573
lol this game
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
February 25 2019 20:40 GMT
#574
On February 26 2019 05:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2019 05:36 brickrd wrote:
On February 26 2019 05:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote:
Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units

Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible

rotti is objectively among the least biased casters. of course he sees things from the protoss POV because that's his race, but he's aware of his own biases, calls them out, and also counteracts them by making valid points from the other races' perspective too. if you've ever watched him stream you know that he has a pretty great competitive attitude toward balance


I dunno how you objectively measure caster bias. Personally I also don't think he's that biased relative to his peers, but I don't think that's in any way objective.


Hire random-only casters or casters who obviously don't play the game and we're good
Chinese teams flair when
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
February 25 2019 20:40 GMT
#575
How's the weather, aLive?
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15958 Posts
February 25 2019 20:41 GMT
#576
On February 26 2019 05:36 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2019 05:31 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 26 2019 05:29 sneakyfox wrote:
Priceless to hear Rotti speak about how useless gateway units are against superior upgrades and then watch herO win with only gateway units

Yeah it becomes sometimes quite obvious he plays Protoss in his casts even if he tries to be as neutral as possible

rotti is objectively among the least biased casters. of course he sees things from the protoss POV because that's his race, but he's aware of his own biases, calls them out, and also counteracts them by making valid points from the other races' perspective too. if you've ever watched him stream you know that he has a pretty great competitive attitude toward balance

I don't disagree with this - it's just something I noticed that the Protoss POV he sees the game from sometimes shines through despite his best efforts. Not really a criticism though, the only casters where I couldn't tell which race they play if I didn't know are probably Tastosis.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
February 25 2019 20:42 GMT
#577
Holy shit I don't even think Maynarde knew how right he was about how this series was going to be.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
February 25 2019 20:43 GMT
#578
hilarious games
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
February 25 2019 20:44 GMT
#579
who would've thought aLive vs herO would be the best series we've got today.
Chinese teams flair when
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12875 Posts
February 25 2019 20:44 GMT
#580
gogo alive!!
WriterMaru
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