• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:27
CET 06:27
KST 14:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.171Evil Geniuses - shutting down16ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League83
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
[BW] Looking for Clan Thread! [ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory! Recent recommended BW games [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos Hands of Pluto
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Grand Finals [BSL23] RO24 Group C
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10380 users

[HSC XVIII] Group Stage - Day 2 - Page 32

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 34 35 Next All
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 23 2018 23:44 GMT
#621
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

Imo those should be considered equal and head to head should be considered in that case. The extra win doesn't matter cause there's also an extra loss.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 23 2018 23:45 GMT
#622
On November 24 2018 08:43 HsDLTitich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:42 Elentos wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 HsDLTitich wrote:
Still not sure what's the tiebreaker

Map score --> head to head apparently.


Then no one on the casting couch knows how tiebreakers work lol

the players don't know either considering the earlier Serral - Stephano "controversy"
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 23 2018 23:46 GMT
#623
On November 24 2018 08:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

Imo those should be considered equal and head to head should be considered in that case. The extra win doesn't matter cause there's also an extra loss.

Yeah at the same aggregate it's h2h i think
I Protoss winner, could it be?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
November 23 2018 23:48 GMT
#624
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

On November 24 2018 08:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

Imo those should be considered equal and head to head should be considered in that case. The extra win doesn't matter cause there's also an extra loss.


Yeah agree with that. It's definitely an insignificant difference either way, so it should be h2h.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
November 23 2018 23:48 GMT
#625
Zest is best
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 23 2018 23:49 GMT
#626
So if my calculations are right, the only score that eliminates Drogo is Zest 2-1 Lambo.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 23 2018 23:50 GMT
#627
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/15 > 9/17
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
November 23 2018 23:51 GMT
#628
Winning has more weight than losing, tho ;p
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 23 2018 23:52 GMT
#629
On November 24 2018 08:51 HsDLTitich wrote:
Winning has more weight than losing, tho ;p

Neither has more weight if it doesn't change the outcome of a series.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 23 2018 23:52 GMT
#630
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/7 = 1.14
9/8 = 1.13

It's not a massive difference but 8-7 is still better ratio
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
November 23 2018 23:53 GMT
#631
On November 24 2018 08:50 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/15 > 9/17



On November 24 2018 08:52 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/7 = 1.14
9/8 = 1.13

It's not a massive difference but 8-7 is still better ratio


confirmed I don't know any math :S
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 23 2018 23:54 GMT
#632
On November 24 2018 08:53 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:50 Elentos wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/15 > 9/17



Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:52 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/7 = 1.14
9/8 = 1.13

It's not a massive difference but 8-7 is still better ratio


confirmed I don't know any math :S

RIP sneakymath
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 23 2018 23:55 GMT
#633
Geoff is getting in his groove
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 23 2018 23:56 GMT
#634
On November 24 2018 08:55 Penev wrote:
Geoff is getting in his groove

For potentially the last game of the night.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 23 2018 23:57 GMT
#635
On November 24 2018 08:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:55 Penev wrote:
Geoff is getting in his groove

For potentially the last game of the night.

maybe he'll be able to drag it into tomorrow
I Protoss winner, could it be?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
November 23 2018 23:58 GMT
#636
On November 24 2018 08:54 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:53 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:50 Elentos wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/15 > 9/17



On November 24 2018 08:52 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/7 = 1.14
9/8 = 1.13

It's not a massive difference but 8-7 is still better ratio


confirmed I don't know any math :S

RIP sneakymath


At least I can take comfort in knowing that math has no real practical applicability
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 24 2018 00:00 GMT
#637
Lambo dropping the vintage desperation spire
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13023 Posts
November 24 2018 00:00 GMT
#638
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:44 Elentos wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

Imo those should be considered equal and head to head should be considered in that case. The extra win doesn't matter cause there's also an extra loss.


Yeah agree with that. It's definitely an insignificant difference either way, so it should be h2h.

8-7 better ratio than 9-8
WriterMaru
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-24 00:01:08
November 24 2018 00:00 GMT
#639
On November 24 2018 08:58 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:54 Elentos wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:53 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:50 Elentos wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/15 > 9/17



On November 24 2018 08:52 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/7 = 1.14
9/8 = 1.13

It's not a massive difference but 8-7 is still better ratio


confirmed I don't know any math :S

RIP sneakymath


At least I can take comfort in knowing that math has no real practical applicability

imagine being a SC2 organizer though

btw did you capitalize your sig recently?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3562 Posts
November 24 2018 00:00 GMT
#640
Wth is lambo doing?
Prev 1 30 31 32 33 34 35 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IntoTheTV X SOOP
11:00
Replaycast Group C
PiGosaur Cup
09:30
#105
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3928
GuemChi 1475
Leta 743
Mong 167
910 55
ZergMaN 54
Noble 28
Creator 17
NotJumperer 9
Icarus 9
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Doublelift5316
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1279
Other Games
summit1g9740
WinterStarcraft383
C9.Mang0234
Livibee19
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick978
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 34
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki114
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2120
League of Legends
• Rush933
• Stunt447
Other Games
• Shiphtur493
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
4h 33m
Kung Fu Cup
5h 33m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 5h
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
OSC
1d 16h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
GSL
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
[ Show More ]
AI Arena Tournament
3 days
Yamato Cup
4 days
Map Test Tournament
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-27
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.