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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
November 23 2018 23:44 GMT
#621
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

Imo those should be considered equal and head to head should be considered in that case. The extra win doesn't matter cause there's also an extra loss.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
November 23 2018 23:45 GMT
#622
On November 24 2018 08:43 HsDLTitich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:42 Elentos wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 HsDLTitich wrote:
Still not sure what's the tiebreaker

Map score --> head to head apparently.


Then no one on the casting couch knows how tiebreakers work lol

the players don't know either considering the earlier Serral - Stephano "controversy"
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
November 23 2018 23:46 GMT
#623
On November 24 2018 08:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

Imo those should be considered equal and head to head should be considered in that case. The extra win doesn't matter cause there's also an extra loss.

Yeah at the same aggregate it's h2h i think
I Protoss winner, could it be?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 23 2018 23:48 GMT
#624
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

On November 24 2018 08:44 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

Imo those should be considered equal and head to head should be considered in that case. The extra win doesn't matter cause there's also an extra loss.


Yeah agree with that. It's definitely an insignificant difference either way, so it should be h2h.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
November 23 2018 23:48 GMT
#625
Zest is best
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 23 2018 23:49 GMT
#626
So if my calculations are right, the only score that eliminates Drogo is Zest 2-1 Lambo.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
November 23 2018 23:50 GMT
#627
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/15 > 9/17
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
November 23 2018 23:51 GMT
#628
Winning has more weight than losing, tho ;p
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
November 23 2018 23:52 GMT
#629
On November 24 2018 08:51 HsDLTitich wrote:
Winning has more weight than losing, tho ;p

Neither has more weight if it doesn't change the outcome of a series.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
November 23 2018 23:52 GMT
#630
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/7 = 1.14
9/8 = 1.13

It's not a massive difference but 8-7 is still better ratio
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 23 2018 23:53 GMT
#631
On November 24 2018 08:50 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/15 > 9/17



On November 24 2018 08:52 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/7 = 1.14
9/8 = 1.13

It's not a massive difference but 8-7 is still better ratio


confirmed I don't know any math :S
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
November 23 2018 23:54 GMT
#632
On November 24 2018 08:53 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:50 Elentos wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/15 > 9/17



Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:52 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/7 = 1.14
9/8 = 1.13

It's not a massive difference but 8-7 is still better ratio


confirmed I don't know any math :S

RIP sneakymath
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
November 23 2018 23:55 GMT
#633
Geoff is getting in his groove
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
November 23 2018 23:56 GMT
#634
On November 24 2018 08:55 Penev wrote:
Geoff is getting in his groove

For potentially the last game of the night.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
November 23 2018 23:57 GMT
#635
On November 24 2018 08:56 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:55 Penev wrote:
Geoff is getting in his groove

For potentially the last game of the night.

maybe he'll be able to drag it into tomorrow
I Protoss winner, could it be?
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
November 23 2018 23:58 GMT
#636
On November 24 2018 08:54 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:53 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:50 Elentos wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/15 > 9/17



On November 24 2018 08:52 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/7 = 1.14
9/8 = 1.13

It's not a massive difference but 8-7 is still better ratio


confirmed I don't know any math :S

RIP sneakymath


At least I can take comfort in knowing that math has no real practical applicability
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
November 24 2018 00:00 GMT
#637
Lambo dropping the vintage desperation spire
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
November 24 2018 00:00 GMT
#638
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:44 Elentos wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

Imo those should be considered equal and head to head should be considered in that case. The extra win doesn't matter cause there's also an extra loss.


Yeah agree with that. It's definitely an insignificant difference either way, so it should be h2h.

8-7 better ratio than 9-8
WriterMaru
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-24 00:01:08
November 24 2018 00:00 GMT
#639
On November 24 2018 08:58 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2018 08:54 Elentos wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:53 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:50 Elentos wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/15 > 9/17



On November 24 2018 08:52 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:48 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:44 Fango wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:42 sneakyfox wrote:
On November 24 2018 08:41 Fango wrote:
If Zest wins even 2-1 he advances. 2-1 would put him on par with drogo and he'd get 4th from h2h


Normally 9-8 is better than 8-7, but dunno what they do here.

That just doesn't seem right? +- would be the same and 8-7 is a better ratio than 9-8.


It's what they do with goal scoring in many sports. And if I know any math 9-8 is the better ratio

8/7 = 1.14
9/8 = 1.13

It's not a massive difference but 8-7 is still better ratio


confirmed I don't know any math :S

RIP sneakymath


At least I can take comfort in knowing that math has no real practical applicability

imagine being a SC2 organizer though

btw did you capitalize your sig recently?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
November 24 2018 00:00 GMT
#640
Wth is lambo doing?
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